Your Top Three Initiatives for Trump

[Niagara Bill]

3 hours ago, MPL said:

Where is all this crime that everyone keeps talking about? I've lived in what are considered some of "the most dangerous liberal cities," and never have I — or anyone I've known — felt that crime was concerning. And data indicates that crime — especially violent crime — is down remarkably since the 1990s, but Americans believe crime is a major issue? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/. But maybe, large numbers of Americans don't believe this data? Or are seeing other data? 

Can somebody help me see another perspective on this? What am I missing here? 

 

 

Drug store chains are closing because of theft, you cannot walk in many areas of cities at night or day without worrying about your life from some wackev out druggie. More pllucdmzn hzfd been killed prf year than in decade totals up to 1990.

NYC subways have more cops, less ridership because of danger.

Whole stretches of San Fran, LA, Chicago have boarded up stores and restaurants do to safety and robberies.

Mass shootings are regular. Protests about foreign wars we are not involved in are far more violent than anything from the 60s and Vietnam.

Children cannot play in parks because of druggies, drugs and needles.

Shootings are so common papers don’t report them. Gangs from Mexico, Central America, Columbia are ruling areas of cities. 

So unless you are living in a village in Idaho it is hard to imagine you dont see it, read it, hear it.

Stats produced by self serving bureaucrats are not to be believed. 

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

2 hours ago, 4th&long said:

Oh I forgot, red states and cities have zero crime. No school shooters, nothing. It’s incredible no one has ever seen anything like it. It’s huge.

Nope.  It's just heavily concentrated in Dem strongholds.  

 

Same with mass shootings.  

 

Include ice for every undocumented that commits a crime. 

 

Reduce corporate tax rates (90 percent of corps are not fortune 500) to a level that's competitive on the global scale. 

 

Reduce individual taxes so individuals drive the economy

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 7 by Tommy Callahan

[Boatdrinks]

2 hours ago, 4th&long said:

Oh I forgot, red states and cities have zero crime. No school shooters, nothing. It’s incredible no one has ever seen anything like it. It’s huge.

Vast majority of cities are blue. Many crimes are not prosecuted due to liberal policies. Nothing happens , so many don’t bother to report them anymore. Nowhere is free of crime, but soft on crime policies lead to more crime. It’s not hard to figure out. Defunding of Police and purposely not imposing jail sentences are just bad policy. 

[4th&long]

1 minute ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Nope.  It's just heavily concentrated in Dem strongholds.  

 

Same with mass shootings.  

 

 

Right. Of course it is. 

[Tommy Callahan]

Just now, 4th&long said:

Right. Of course it is. 

https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunviolencearchive.org%2Freports%2Fmass-shooting&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4

 

Those victims don't count.  Eh. 

 

 

[4th&long]

30 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Vast majority of cities are blue. Many crimes are not prosecuted due to liberal policies. Nothing happens , so many don’t bother to report them anymore. Nowhere is free of crime, but soft on crime policies lead to more crime. It’s not hard to figure out. Defunding of Police and purposely not imposing jail sentences are just bad policy. 

No Doubt they are bad policies, if I’m not mistaken I heard California is doing away with those soft on crime laws. 
 

I think part of the reason is also states are so poorly run they don’t have near enough corrections officers. Old ones retired and they are not getting new ones. Guys are working triple shifts etc… prisons are closing. This country is a mess. Govt doesn’t do sh it for us and I don’t care who is in charge. 
 

 

28 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

https://search.app?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunviolencearchive.org%2Freports%2Fmass-shooting&utm_campaign=aga&utm_source=agsadl1%2Csh%2Fx%2Fgs%2Fm2%2F4

 

Those victims don't count.  Eh. 

 

 

Who said a victim doesn’t count? 

Edited November 7 by 4th&long

[MPL]

9 minutes ago, Niagara Bill said:

3 hours ago, MPL said:

Where is all this crime that everyone keeps talking about? I've lived in what are considered some of "the most dangerous liberal cities," and never have I — or anyone I've known — felt that crime was concerning. And data indicates that crime — especially violent crime — is down remarkably since the 1990s, but Americans believe crime is a major issue? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/. But maybe, large numbers of Americans don't believe this data? Or are seeing other data? 

Can somebody help me see another perspective on this? What am I missing here? 

 

 

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Drug store chains are closing because of theft, you cannot walk in many areas of cities at night or day without worrying about your life from some wackev out druggie. More pllucdmzn hzfd been killed prf year than in decade totals up to 1990.

NYC subways have more cops, less ridership because of danger.

Whole stretches of San Fran, LA, Chicago have boarded up stores and restaurants do to safety and robberies.

Mass shootings are regular. Protests about foreign wars we are not involved in are far more violent than anything from the 60s and Vietnam.

Children cannot play in parks because of druggies, drugs and needles.

Shootings are so common papers don’t report them. Gangs from Mexico, Central America, Columbia are ruling areas of cities. 

So unless you are living in a village in Idaho it is hard to imagine you dont see it, read it, hear it.

Stats produced by self serving bureaucrats are not to be believed. 

Thanks, @Niagara Bill. Based on your bio, I see you live in Niagara Falls, on the Canadian side? Is that correct? You say stats produced by self-serving bureaucrats are not to be believed? But, I'm wondering where are you getting your information about San Fran, LA, Chicago, and other cities that you do not reside in? Are the news sources where you are seeing this "crime wave" not susceptible to being self-serving or misleading to create a desired result among voters? I just think it raises a question: why are so many people experts on crime and gang behavior in places that they do not live? Because, man, In the blue cities that I've lived in, the portrayal just isn't lining up with the lived experience. 

Now, I will concede on mass shootings. But, I do know that we have a really strong thoughts and prayers plan in place, so I think those really won't be a problem going forward. 
 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, 4th&long said:

No Doubt they are bad policies, if I’m not mistaken I heard California is doing away with those soft on crime laws. 
 

I think part of the reason is also states are so poorly run they don’t have near enough corrections officers. Old ones retired and they are not getting new ones. Guys are working triple shifts etc… prisons are closing. This country is a mess. Govt doesn’t do sh it for us and I don’t care who is in charge. 
 

 

Who said a victim doesn’t count? 

Crazy how the mass shooting rate doubled in 2020 and have been in the 600 a year range since.  

 

 

[4th&long]

9 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

Crazy how the mass shooting rate doubled in 2020 and have been in the 600 a year range since.  

 

 

Just crazy. Maybe republicans should do something about gun laws.

It’s on you guys now. What are you going to do? Lock up a thief should help with mass shootings right? 

[Big Blitz]

Also, get this man a medal

 

 

 

[sherpa]

Let's get through the next two months.

We can worry about the next Administration then.

[Andy1]

7 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

We can come back to this at the appropriate time. In the meantime, I'm reminded of the song "Turn Turn Turn" and the thought-provoking lyrics:

 

To everything turn, turn, turn
There is a season turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under Heaven

 

A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time to dunk
A time to re-frain from said duh-nking

 

 

 

Leh-nerd I appreciate your gentle message. The pendulum of politics continues to swing back and forth and is headed right for the next few years. Each election seems to be a reaction to the last election. 
 

It’s fine if you need more time to think about it, but I would think that after suffering through Biden the past 4 years you would have a to-do list at the top of your mind. There must be something on my list that gives you a warm feeling and puts a smile on your face 😊. This is a safe space here to share your ideas. No one will report you to Trump if you are worried about talking about policy direction before he announces it. 

[Andy1]

4 hours ago, Artful Dodger said:

3. Immigration reform. How about a merit-based system for a change?  We have major shortages of engineers and doctors.  Let's fix th

We already have this. It is the H-1B visa program.

[JFKjr]

1. Safeguard the voting system.

2. Stop giving money to Ukraine.

3. Own the Libs.

 

There are more priorities than that, but a nice start.

[DuckyBoys]

1.  Secure the border and go back to vetted immigration

2.  Negotiate cease fires in Ukraine and the Palestinian Israel conflict

3.  Reduce debt/stop the money printing

4.  Drain the swamp

5.  simplify taxes w flat tax/abolish the IRS

6. get rid of the globalist policies 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[4th&long]

 

[JFKjr]

1 minute ago, 4th&long said:

 

 

Don't forget your booster!

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 hours ago, Andy1 said:

Leh-nerd I appreciate your gentle message. The pendulum of politics continues to swing back and forth and is headed right for the next few years. Each election seems to be a reaction to the last election. 
 

It’s fine if you need more time to think about it, but I would think that after suffering through Biden the past 4 years you would have a to-do list at the top of your mind. There must be something on my list that gives you a warm feeling and puts a smile on your face 😊. This is a safe space here to share your ideas. No one will report you to Trump if you are worried about talking about policy direction before he announces it. 

I didn’t “suffer” through Biden, Andy, I went about living a good life. Yes, I was hoping for a change but try not to sweat that stuff.  
 

I was prepared for a Harris/Walz win, though admit to being a bit worried that Tim is suffering from PTSD from almost being at Tiananmen Square during the uprising—it’s unreal and scary that he was there a few months earlier at the Ho Lee Fuk Happy Buffett and could have been in harm’s way were time travel possible.

 

You are absolutely correct on the pendulum, it damn near swung your way for to the democrats based on the razor sharp margin of victory for Team Trump.
 

I mean, have you ever considered if Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Kentucky and Tennessee was one big state?  Illinowamisskenessee might have taken 35 votes off the Trump board and placed them in the Harris tally.  Trump only would have won by 16 EC votes! Crazy, right? 

 

For now, I’m good with this. 

 

 

Edited November 8 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[SectionC3]

8 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

1)  Make good on the immigration policies: This is a big part of why he won. Finish the wall and deport the low hanging fruit (those with criminal records and those with no pending application for amnesty or refugee status) as soon as possible. From there, take it case by case, and also make the legal process easier so that there is no reason or incentive for sneaking in illegally if you are not hiding something. 

 

2) Tell us your healthcare plan and make it good: I do not think that government run healthcare is feasible in the US, but I also think that the Republicans need to do better that talking about letting insurance companies overcharge or deny services to pre-existing conditions. Trump never established his plans in healthcare and could never get anything up and running. Healthcare is a train wreck in the US and neither party has talked about it at a meaningful level in years.

 

3) More accountability for the media: This is a tough one because I do not want this to include suppressing of opinions or free speech. I am thinking more along the lines of consequences for mistakes and deceptions. Both sides had their networks spreading lies and false information about each candidate as if they were fact for the entire election process.

 

I am not sure how to do this but maybe a label using a term such as media entertainment instead of news for NBCNews, Fox, CNN or other networks that lean greatly one way and use emotional driving techniques to hype their fan base. I would also be for mandatory disclosure of which party a news outlet favors, visible and hard to miss headlines when retractions are needed and fines if the deception led to deliberate harm or ill gotten gains for politicians.  In my opinion mainstream media is more responsible for this divided country than anyone in either party. Fix that and everyone calms down.

 

Bonus: Start right away with something that most people want on both sides like reducing the cost of pharmaceuticals and banning prescription drugs commercials. This helps to make a good first impression and get the other side to hope for something different this time around.

Lots of command economy stuff in here.  Price controls.  He’s had since 2015 to do a health care plan.  Case by case basis on the illegals?  Either there aren’t that many or this is going to take huge sums of money and time to accomplish.   Then, qualification and stifling of free speech.  Sounds like commie to me.  Unbelievable.