wnyguy Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 minute ago, Biden is Mentally Fit said: I think he’s got bank too! I hear he's doing very well. Not sure who I heard it from though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 3 hours ago, ScotSHO said: I've always liked this idea, but it is met with a lot of pushback. I'm honestly not sure why, can one of our resident detractors explain why a flat tax is bad? Harrumph! Because how will the wealthy pay their FAIR SHARE (aka more more more). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 52 minutes ago, Andy1 said: So what are your priorities Leh-nerd? Is there anything on my list you don’t want him to do? We can come back to this at the appropriate time. In the meantime, I'm reminded of the song "Turn Turn Turn" and the thought-provoking lyrics: To everything turn, turn, turn There is a season turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under Heaven A time of love, a time of hate A time of war, a time of peace A time to dunk A time to re-frain from said duh-nking 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 51 minutes ago, wnyguy said: I just love your hysterical rantings, you're like a more eloquent version of Billstime. Relax, the country will not fall apart. Nothing hysterical about it. And nobody's worried about anything falling apart. I just want you and MAGA to do what you said you're going to do. You won the culture wars. Good for you. Now let's follow through on the economic piece of your agenda, too, which happens to be against your self interest. I think we can all agree that socialism should be stopped. So what are we cutting first?? 21 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: We can come back to this at the appropriate time. In the meantime, I'm reminded of the song "Turn Turn Turn" and the thought-provoking lyrics: To everything turn, turn, turn There is a season turn, turn, turn And a time to every purpose under Heaven A time of love, a time of hate A time of war, a time of peace A time to dunk A time to re-frain from said duh-nking You got nothing. You voted against something, but now you can't specifically say what you're for. Let's stop socialism and start cutting benefits. Or are we doing tariffs first. Or is it juicing the stock market (MAGA is not the investor class) by cutting taxes and running up the national debt. Which one comes first? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: You got nothing. You voted against something, but now you can't specifically say what you're for. Let's stop socialism and start cutting benefits. Or are we doing tariffs first. Or is it juicing the stock market (MAGA is not the investor class) by cutting taxes and running up the national debt. Which one comes first? Dear SectionC3, I think the intoxicating allure of counting your benjamins has you all hopped up like a meth head. Instead of slap fighting the air, consider sharing more of what you have with those less fortunate. 💝 Warm regards and fondly, Leh-nerd 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 8 hours ago, Doc Brown said: 1.) Don't impose tariffs. I know being a protectionist is part of Trump's appeal but more jobs will be lost than created. Also, if you raise the price of imported goods the cost will get passed on to all Americans and hurt lower-income Americans even more. It's a weird obsession of his and his only consistent principle since the 80's. You know it's a bad idea when Bernie Sanders pushes for the same thing. 2.) Pass a federal flat tax of 12% and largely reduce the IRS. Nobody likes paying taxes (rich or poor) and it would lead to an economic boon. Lower the corporate tax to 16%. 3.) Convince Thomas and Alto to retire while you control the presidency and the Senate. Replace them with younger conservative judges. Obama couldn't convince RGB to retire and it ended up biting them in the back. Bonus: Make Daylight Savings time permanent. I'm sick of it getting dark so early this time of year. I really like your points on2) 3) and the bonus. 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: Because how will the wealthy pay their FAIR SHARE (aka more more more). This is it in a nutshell. They must be faced with punitive tax rates for being successful. How else can we possibly fund all this insanely expensive “ green” crap that no one wants? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Dear SectionC3, I think the intoxicating allure of counting your benjamins has you all hopped up like a meth head. Instead of slap fighting the air, consider sharing more of what you have with those less fortunate. 💝 Warm regards and fondly, Leh-nerd Like I said, you got nothing. Just like the rest of them. 8 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: I really like your points on2) 3) and the bonus. This is it in a nutshell. They must be faced with punitive tax rates for being successful. How else can we possibly fund all this insanely expensive “ green” crap that no one wants? So you're a Steve Forbes and trickle down guy with the flat tax? Terry Pegula (for example) pays the same tax rate as you. I'm all for it, for what it's worth, because it's good for me. But is it good for MAGA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 I am not a US citizen, so I know my opinion plus $2.50 will get me a coffee, but at the risk of being told to f off...here goes 1. Illegal migration must stop and immigration from countries that have historical conflicts are putting conflicts on US streets that are deadly, costly and not essential to your society. 2. Biden, Obama ( and his stupid Nobel Prize), and Clinton did more to weaken US power around the world while Russia, China, India along with 20+ more aligned countries now pose a very credible and immediate threat, far more serious than Cuba missile days. Every Prez since Reagan have hurt US authority, NATO Power and created threats to peace. Putin will escalate, he is not Kruschev. Trump and his administration must deal with these threats. WW3 will be on NA soil and airspace. 3. Sanctuary cities, the crime that goes with them and the drug culture included are destroying society. The mayor, the council of those cities, the governor of those states need to be charged with failure to protect citizens by refusing to enforce federal laws. There it is..my 3 from 1000 ft level... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Where is all this crime that everyone keeps talking about? I've lived in what are considered some of "the most dangerous liberal cities," and never have I — or anyone I've known — felt that crime was concerning. And data indicates that crime — especially violent crime — is down remarkably since the 1990s, but Americans believe crime is a major issue? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/. But maybe, large numbers of Americans don't believe this data? Or are seeing other data? Can somebody help me see another perspective on this? What am I missing here? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 12 minutes ago, MPL said: Where is all this crime that everyone keeps talking about? I've lived in what are considered some of "the most dangerous liberal cities," and never have I — or anyone I've known — felt that crime was concerning. And data indicates that crime — especially violent crime — is down remarkably since the 1990s, but Americans believe crime is a major issue? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/. But maybe, large numbers of Americans don't believe this data? Or are seeing other data? Can somebody help me see another perspective on this? What am I missing here? Nothing. You are missing nothing. It was all a scare tactic by trump that maga fell for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1 hour ago, MPL said: Where is all this crime that everyone keeps talking about? I've lived in what are considered some of "the most dangerous liberal cities," and never have I — or anyone I've known — felt that crime was concerning. And data indicates that crime — especially violent crime — is down remarkably since the 1990s, but Americans believe crime is a major issue? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/. But maybe, large numbers of Americans don't believe this data? Or are seeing other data? Can somebody help me see another perspective on this? What am I missing here? Find a map of say NYS. Find the counties that went blue. Hang out after hours, live there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: Like I said, you got nothing. Just like the rest of them. I understand what you're trying to say, but you're simply missing the much larger point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 7 hours ago, Bills!Win! said: ok So what happened to you that you can’t live on $110,000? Did you try to move to Beverly Hills? But a hyper sports car? Bad investments. We have a family of 6 and don’t make that much, I haven’t worked full time in two years and almost not at all for the last year. We have had to sell some stock to help out but we are getting by for now. I’m curious how inflation hit you so hard? Honest question. 5 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: Find a map of say NYS. Find the counties that went blue. Hang out after hours, live there. Yes because crime never existed before. You could always walk down the streets of nyc safe dating back to when I was a kid. Just 4 years ago the had their first murder ever it was huge. No one ever seen anything like it! They said sir what happened? I said I forgot to pay off Epstein so they killed him. Edited November 7 by 4th&long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4th&long Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) Oh I forgot, red states and cities have zero crime. No school shooters, nothing. It’s incredible no one has ever seen anything like it. It’s huge. Edited November 7 by 4th&long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 5 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said: 1 hour ago, MPL said: Where is all this crime that everyone keeps talking about? I've lived in what are considered some of "the most dangerous liberal cities," and never have I — or anyone I've known — felt that crime was concerning. And data indicates that crime — especially violent crime — is down remarkably since the 1990s, but Americans believe crime is a major issue? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/. But maybe, large numbers of Americans don't believe this data? Or are seeing other data? Can somebody help me see another perspective on this? What am I missing here? Expand Find a map of say NYS. Find the counties that went blue. Hang out after hours, live there. Cool. Yeah. So, I've lived in New York County and Queens County, and spent many, many late nights in Monroe County, Bronx County, and Kings County. I didn't find them to be even remotely unsafe. Also grew up in Utica, NY, an area which I'm sure is more blue than the rest of Oneida County. Never felt unsafe there either. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 12 minutes ago, MPL said: Cool. Yeah. So, I've lived in New York County and Queens County, and spent many, many late nights in Monroe County, Bronx County, and Kings County. I didn't find them to be even remotely unsafe. Also grew up in Utica, NY, an area which I'm sure is more blue than the rest of Oneida County. Never felt unsafe there either. Obviously you never tried a Utica Club. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 Just now, wnyguy said: 14 minutes ago, MPL said: Cool. Yeah. So, I've lived in New York County and Queens County, and spent many, many late nights in Monroe County, Bronx County, and Kings County. I didn't find them to be even remotely unsafe. Also grew up in Utica, NY, an area which I'm sure is more blue than the rest of Oneida County. Never felt unsafe there either. Obviously you never tried a Utica Club. I've had my share and kept it all down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artful Dodger Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 1. Eliminate DEI initiatives, especially in the military where it's hampering recruitment and affecting readiness. If you're a federal employee and you ever have to sit through another training session on white fragility or systemic racism, that's one too many times. 2. Restore border security. Reinstitute Trump's Remain in Mexico policy and/or build the wall in vulnerable border areas. 3. Immigration reform. How about a merit-based system for a change? We have major shortages of engineers and doctors. Let's fix that. There's a million things that the new administration needs to do to rectify the damage done by the Biden Administration, but if they can get these things accomplished it will be a good start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 2 hours ago, MPL said: Where is all this crime that everyone keeps talking about? I've lived in what are considered some of "the most dangerous liberal cities," and never have I — or anyone I've known — felt that crime was concerning. And data indicates that crime — especially violent crime — is down remarkably since the 1990s, but Americans believe crime is a major issue? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/. But maybe, large numbers of Americans don't believe this data? Or are seeing other data? Can somebody help me see another perspective on this? What am I missing here? The Cult believes whatever Dear Leader says 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgrochester55 Posted November 7 Share Posted November 7 (edited) 1) Make good on the immigration policies: This is a big part of why he won. Finish the wall and deport the low hanging fruit (those with criminal records and those with no pending application for amnesty or refugee status) as soon as possible. From there, take it case by case, and also make the legal process easier so that there is no reason or incentive for sneaking in illegally if you are not hiding something. 2) Tell us your healthcare plan and make it good: I do not think that government run healthcare is feasible in the US, but I also think that the Republicans need to do better that talking about letting insurance companies overcharge or deny services to pre-existing conditions. Trump never established his plans in healthcare and could never get anything up and running. Healthcare is a train wreck in the US and neither party has talked about it at a meaningful level in years. 3) More accountability for the media: This is a tough one because I do not want this to include suppressing of opinions or free speech. I am thinking more along the lines of consequences for mistakes and deceptions. Both sides had their networks spreading lies and false information about each candidate as if they were fact for the entire election process. I am not sure how to do this but maybe a label using a term such as media entertainment instead of news for NBCNews, Fox, CNN or other networks that lean greatly one way and use emotional driving techniques to hype their fan base. I would also be for mandatory disclosure of which party a news outlet favors, visible and hard to miss headlines when retractions are needed and fines if the deception led to deliberate harm or ill gotten gains for politicians. In my opinion mainstream media is more responsible for this divided country than anyone in either party. Fix that and everyone calms down. Bonus: Start right away with something that most people want on both sides like reducing the cost of pharmaceuticals and banning prescription drugs commercials. This helps to make a good first impression and get the other side to hope for something different this time around. Edited November 7 by dgrochester55 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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