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13 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

It’s actually more tame than I thought, given how they’ve talked about him the last 4 years…Sure, Sonny and Joy are visibly upset, but I can respect that they are keeping it relatively classy…

 

I see Alyssa Griffin voted for Harris.  I forgive her.

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25 minutes ago, muppy said:

I do have 1 comment that I'm curious what you all think. If in theory it was partially latino support that pushed donald over the finish line in this election. HOW could they, in good conscience, by voting for him would mean deportation of women children and families of people of their own ilk?

 

I just don't get it. At all. *shrugs*

 

and one last word on Trumps to do lost when he arrives in office.  Do you not see how these deportations could themselves become deadly conflicts in our own country?  Federals vs immigrants. Because I think what they will be doing is heartless and cruel and maybe just maybe they will resist.  

 

I trust him as far as I can throw him. He is a liar, a narcissist, a cheat, a rapist, a master conman and I think he being in office will change what democracy is Forever.. as well as a phony a man of faith a Ive ever seen.

 

He is his own IDOL to MAGA and it makes me nauseous to think of the future. Golden sneakers TRUMP BIBLE are you kidding me?

 

I do have a glimmer of hope. There was a man named  Saul whom on the road to Tarsus was struck blind and went from a persecutor of Christians to someone God used mightily in the scriptures  as the apostle Paul. God works in mysterious ways that I don't pretend to understand. But Thank God HE is still on the throne. NOT Donald Trump

 

There's your meltdown *curtsies*


Imagine you wanted to move to England and in order to do so, you had to spend years of your life, most - if not all - of your savings, and more paperwork and red tape than you can imagine. But you did it, and finally became a citizen of England. 
 

Fast forward ten years and you begin to see a ton of other Americans sneak in without doing any of the work you did to get there. They just snuck in, without the work or enormous expense, and are now a tax burden on you. How would you feel about them? You’d defend them just because they came from the same country as you? 


 

 

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19 minutes ago, muppy said:

I do have 1 comment that I'm curious what you all think. If in theory it was partially latino support that pushed donald over the finish line in this election. HOW could they, in good conscience, by voting for him would mean deportation of women children and families of people of their own ilk?

 

I just don't get it. At all. *shrugs*

 

and one last word on Trumps to do lost when he arrives in office.  Do you not see how these deportations could themselves become deadly conflicts in our own country?  Federals vs immigrants. Because I think what they will be doing is heartless and cruel and maybe just maybe they will resist.  

 

I trust him as far as I can throw him. He is a liar, a narcissist, a cheat, a rapist, a master conman and I think he being in office will change what democracy is Forever.. as well as a phony a man of faith a Ive ever seen.

 

He is his own IDOL to MAGA and it makes me nauseous to think of the future. Golden sneakers TRUMP BIBLE are you kidding me?

 

I do have a glimmer of hope. There was a man named  Saul whom on the road to Tarsus was struck blind and went from a persecutor of Christians to someone God used mightily in the scriptures  as the apostle Paul. God works in mysterious ways that I don't pretend to understand. But Thank God HE is still on the throne. NOT Donald Trump

 

There's your meltdown *curtsies*

 

My physical therapist is a Mexican immigrant. He told me in no uncertain terms that he was voting for Trump this election, and it would be the first time in his 25 years living in America that he would be voting for a Republican. 

 

He was very upset about the open border policy that let millions upon millions of migrants into the country with little to no vetting. He followed all of the rules, and it upset him greatly to see millions of people not having to follow the rules that he followed. 

 

Also, he was he was even more upset that the lack of vetting let tens of thousands of violet criminals into the country, many of whom have been responsible for the violent deaths of woman and children. Many of those women and children being Hispanic immigrants who followed the rules.

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Joy Bahar wants schools to start teaching kids to think critically…because of the election results…🤣🤣🤣

 

Hey Joy, I think people were thinking critically when they ignored all the fake news propaganda and made their choice…👍

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11 minutes ago, stevestojan said:


Imagine you wanted to move to England and in order to do so, you had to spend years of your life, most - if not all - of your savings, and more paperwork and red tape than you can imagine. But you did it, and finally became a citizen of England. 
 

Fast forward ten years and you begin to see a ton of other Americans sneak in without doing any of the work you did to get there. They just snuck in, without the work or enormous expense, and are now a tax burden on you. How would you feel about them? You’d defend them just because they came from the same country as you? 


 

 

you see IDEALLY it is these types of discussions that are profitable. I was a bit salty in my OP  but the replies have been thoughtful and I appreciate that.  It's food for thought.

 

a kinder gentler PPP kudos

 

In closing I will be praying for our government..AND President. Yes I will.,

 

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1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Yeah he knocked it out of the park with health care reform the border wall and the handling of the pandemic.  

My beefs with him aren’t necessarily policy related.  I don’t share his policies,  but that’s not a problem.  My issues are grounded in morals and integrity (he has none).  And the dirty little secret is that he’s frankly not effective at governing.  He just doesn’t get stuff done.  Time will tell if that changes.  He’s got his shot, and it’s MAGA’s turn to try it again. 

Good stuff, S3.  Can't argue your perspective. 

 

@4th&long, we were discussing whether or not conversations lead to people changing their minds, or considering alternate opinions.  I told you my experiences here--S3 is a poster who educated me on a particular topic a while back. 

 

Something like this post is easy--it's reasonable and while I think the topic of "morals" in politics generally is kind of funny given the last few dem nominees, I certainly can understand his view on things.  I'm typing all this at the risk  of summoning the ghost of L'Ron and his fireworks/a-bombs/sex toy/apples analogies--that's how much I want us all to heal. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, muppy said:

I do have 1 comment that I'm curious what you all think. If in theory it was partially latino support that pushed donald over the finish line in this election. HOW could they, in good conscience, by voting for him would mean deportation of women children and families of people of their own ilk?

 

I just don't get it. At all. *shrugs*

 

and one last word on Trumps to do lost when he arrives in office.  Do you not see how these deportations could themselves become deadly conflicts in our own country?  Federals vs immigrants. Because I think what they will be doing is heartless and cruel and maybe just maybe they will resist.  

 

I trust him as far as I can throw him. He is a liar, a narcissist, a cheat, a rapist, a master conman and I think he being in office will change what democracy is Forever.. as well as a phony a man of faith a Ive ever seen.

 

He is his own IDOL to MAGA and it makes me nauseous to think of the future. Golden sneakers TRUMP BIBLE are you kidding me?

 

I do have a glimmer of hope. There was a man named  Saul whom on the road to Tarsus was struck blind and went from a persecutor of Christians to someone God used mightily in the scriptures  as the apostle Paul. God works in mysterious ways that I don't pretend to understand. But Thank God HE is still on the throne. NOT Donald Trump

 

There's your meltdown *curtsies*

 

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43 minutes ago, stevestojan said:


Imagine you wanted to move to England and in order to do so, you had to spend years of your life, most - if not all - of your savings, and more paperwork and red tape than you can imagine. But you did it, and finally became a citizen of England. 
 

Fast forward ten years and you begin to see a ton of other Americans sneak in without doing any of the work you did to get there. They just snuck in, without the work or enormous expense, and are now a tax burden on you. How would you feel about them? You’d defend them just because they came from the same country as you? 


 

 


Great point Steve. People don’t realize the cost it takes to legally come in to the USA. It’s a lot of money for people in countries with stable economies… Imagine coming from one without that or a low GDP?

 

There is several steps to the process and you aren’t even guaranteed if you’ve paid. Get to the final step and are denied a temporary green card? Well, you start all over again; fees included. 
 

I see both sides of the issues, some don’t have the financial means etc and choose to risk it to better the lives of their families but like you alluded to, if someone has spent their life savings and managed to get her for a better prospect or future why should others be given the free ride because now all of a sudden it’s deemed a right?

 

 

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2 hours ago, muppy said:

I do have 1 comment that I'm curious what you all think. If in theory it was partially latino support that pushed donald over the finish line in this election. HOW could they, in good conscience, by voting for him would mean deportation of women children and families of people of their own ilk?

Muppito!  Welcome back--I nearly tagged you the other day but know you don't always like to be dragged in.  Hope your wrist is healing well!

 

I'll offer an opinion here--The theory of voting in lockstep is a myth.  Certainly there can be tendencies, but individuals consider these issues individually, not collectively across the board.  A family that came through the US through proper channels likely faced hardship, time, and expense to be welcomed in.  It seems completely consistent that they may feel that a person/persons bypassing the system with tacit approval of government ae taking advantage of the system.  Beyond that...it seems to me that while a person from, say the Dominican Republic may have one feeling about another Dominican, but a completely different thought about a Haitian or person from Ecuador. 

 

 

2 hours ago, muppy said:

 

I just don't get it. At all. *shrugs*

 

and one last word on Trumps to do lost when he arrives in office.  Do you not see how these deportations could themselves become deadly conflicts in our own country?  Federals vs immigrants. Because I think what they will be doing is heartless and cruel and maybe just maybe they will resist.  

"Heartless and cruel" largely defines our system as it stands right now.  People make their way up to the border, victimized by traffickers, victimized by cartels, victimized by governments.  On this side of the border, the same pattern plays out at times, often with citizens being victimized.  

 

I get the emotional appeal of this, and would happily support some compromise that brings common sense and respect for the law together, but tbh, this is a massive problem anyway you slice it. 

 

2 hours ago, muppy said:

 

I trust him as far as I can throw him. He is a liar, a narcissist, a cheat, a rapist, a master conman and I think he being in office will change what democracy is Forever.. as well as a phony a man of faith a Ive ever seen.

 

He is his own IDOL to MAGA and it makes me nauseous to think of the future. Golden sneakers TRUMP BIBLE are you kidding me?

Despite all that, Mupp, he was the consensus choice for getting things done that need to get done.  Respectfully, people likely feel that way about people you would support, and that's a story as old as time. 

 

2 hours ago, muppy said:

 

I do have a glimmer of hope. There was a man named  Saul whom on the road to Tarsus was struck blind and went from a persecutor of Christians to someone God used mightily in the scriptures  as the apostle Paul. God works in mysterious ways that I don't pretend to understand. But Thank God HE is still on the throne. NOT Donald Trump

 

There's your meltdown *curtsies*

Ha--you need to turn in your lib card if you think this was a meltdown!  You didn't even set fire to  police car!

 

See ya Mupp!

 

 

Ps:  @4th&long--Mupp is another poster with views different than mine who has given me pause to consider how I look at the world.  

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11 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Muppito!  Welcome back--I nearly tagged you the other day but know you don't always like to be dragged in.  Hope your wrist is healing well!

 

I'll offer an opinion here--The theory of voting in lockstep is a myth.  Certainly there can be tendencies, but individuals consider these issues individually, not collectively across the board.  A family that came through the US through proper channels likely faced hardship, time, and expense to be welcomed in.  It seems completely consistent that they may feel that a person/persons bypassing the system with tacit approval of government ae taking advantage of the system.  Beyond that...it seems to me that while a person from, say the Dominican Republic may have one feeling about another Dominican, but a completely different thought about a Haitian or person from Ecuador. 

 

 

"Heartless and cruel" largely defines our system as it stands right now.  People make their way up to the border, victimized by traffickers, victimized by cartels, victimized by governments.  On this side of the border, the same pattern plays out at times, often with citizens being victimized.  

 

I get the emotional appeal of this, and would happily support some compromise that brings common sense and respect for the law together, but tbh, this is a massive problem anyway you slice it. 

 

Despite all that, Mupp, he was the consensus choice for getting things done that need to get done.  Respectfully, people likely feel that way about people you would support, and that's a story as old as time. 

 

Ha--you need to turn in your lib card if you think this was a meltdown!  You didn't even set fire to  police car!

 

See ya Mupp!

 

 

Ps:  @4th&long--Mupp is another poster with views different than mine who has given me pause to consider how I look at the world.  

Good for you man. Muppy is a good poster and person. I knows her from other message boards.

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2 hours ago, stevestojan said:


Imagine you wanted to move to England and in order to do so, you had to spend years of your life, most - if not all - of your savings, and more paperwork and red tape than you can imagine. But you did it, and finally became a citizen of England. 
 

Fast forward ten years and you begin to see a ton of other Americans sneak in without doing any of the work you did to get there. They just snuck in, without the work or enormous expense, and are now a tax burden on you. How would you feel about them? You’d defend them just because they came from the same country as you? 


 

 

Holy sensible post batman! Perfect analogy. Cheers.

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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Letitia James just held a press conference, melted down so much so that she could barely speak and started pseudo-threatening Donald Trump.   

James can go suck an egg. Nothing she can do now and she knows it. And what judge is going to look at how many votes Trump gained in NY and the popular vote and try to sentence him?  Its a career ender.

 

What did she the Hag, Innocent animal killing, Governor of NY have to say?

1 minute ago, paulmm3 said:

I have a feeling all of those leftists who wanted to add seats to the Supreme Court and get rid of the Senate filibuster are about to become very big fans of the filibuster.

LOL Trump "Lets end the Buster to get this stuff passed" Congress agrees. Trump "Ok now lets put it back" Congress agrees lol

 

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12 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Letitia James just held a press conference, melted down so much so that she could barely speak and started pseudo-threatening Donald Trump.   

She should revisit criminal charges against Cuomo, Schneiderman, and Elio Spitzer.  

 

2 hours ago, K D said:

 

 

I think she should acquaint herself with an employer's right to deny employment to a person convicted of a felony in NY, and serious penalties for not complying. 

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