What is the future of the AFC East?

[shane nelson]

If played right and the chips fall our way, the Bills should replace the Pats as the perennial Division winners for a long time.  The rest of the division will play catch up as long as Josh is Josh, just like we chased the NEP and TB for so many seasons.  Clearly we need a ring or two before we are in the same category as this cheating bastards from NE.      

[L Ron Burgundy]

I've considered this a bit.  Personally I think both the Jets and Dolphins are better than their records.  One or both may make a bit of a comeback and come near a wildcard.  Wouldn't surprise me at all.  

 

As for the future both fins and jets can be contenders next year with a good offseason and a coaching upgrade in NY.  The phins window imo is smaller because of their cap situation.  That team has so much speed at skill positions it's crazy.  But they are tied to Tua and he's a hit away from retirement.  NY has tied their ship to Rodgers and that has been a bad move (getting him was good letting him bring in buddies was bad).  Both have unusual problems.  

[Nephilim17]

Only the Bills have a franchise QB that's really viable. Tua is one hit away from done.

 

Franchise QB is all the difference. 

[GunnerBill]

10 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I've considered this a bit.  Personally I think both the Jets and Dolphins are better than their records.  One or both may make a bit of a comeback and come near a wildcard.  Wouldn't surprise me at all.  

 

As for the future both fins and jets can be contenders next year with a good offseason and a coaching upgrade in NY. 

 

I'd be shocked if MIA or NYJ won the division next year.

[Royale with Cheese]

17 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

I've considered this a bit.  Personally I think both the Jets and Dolphins are better than their records.  One or both may make a bit of a comeback and come near a wildcard.  Wouldn't surprise me at all.  

 

As for the future both fins and jets can be contenders next year with a good offseason and a coaching upgrade in NY.  The phins window imo is smaller because of their cap situation.  That team has so much speed at skill positions it's crazy.  But they are tied to Tua and he's a hit away from retirement.  NY has tied their ship to Rodgers and that has been a bad move (getting him was good letting him bring in buddies was bad).  Both have unusual problems.  

I will transition to a female if the Dolphins or Jets win the division next year.  

[L Ron Burgundy]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

I will transition to a female if the Dolphins or Jets win the division next year.  

 

Damn you.  Now I wanna kinda see it happen.  Can you imagine how much publicity this would get?  Man transitions to female because of football bet?  Let's shine some more positive light on Bills Mafia!

[SoonerBillsFan]

14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I will transition to a female if the Dolphins or Jets win the division next year.  

Copied for future 🙂

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I'd be shocked if MIA or NYJ won the division next year.

 

Me too, I think they can contend with us though.  Do you think for both teams their records are indicative of their talent?  I think if Tua is healthy they're behind us still but not nearly as bad.  Let's not forget, they had a bit of a lead on us last year.  As for the Jets they're more complicated.  Bringing in Rodgers might have been a good move.  Bringing his buddies (HACKETT) not so much.

[MJS]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I will transition to a female if the Dolphins or Jets win the division next year.  

Please don't post pictures if this happens.

[saundena]

10 hours ago, Captain_Quint said:

I may be in the minority, but I think Miami has a run in them to finish the season. It would have to go perfectly for them to make the playoffs, as we pretty much have the division sewn up. But their offensive talent is undeniable when the backs and WRs are healthy and Tua is playing. Their offensive line has taken a step forward this year too. 

 

The defense is pretty bad, but if they score 30 or 40 points, they could stack some wins. I think that in this past game, if we don't slow the game down by giving up the run and staying fast on Hill and Waddle, they maybe score 45 and take the game. 

 

But as far as next year, they will now have the Tua contract to contend with and some decisions to make.

 

My take is the opposite, I think they gave it all they had and still came up short.  I think that will break the Dolphins and their soft coach.  He's a creative guy. But not a leader 

[FireChans]

12 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This thread isn’t intended to trash the rest of the trash teams in the AFC East. We heard A LOT this offseason about Miami and the Jets overtaking the Bills. 2 months later, that sounds hilarious and a lot of “football people” lost credibility here. 😂😂 

 

The question is, “what’s next?” The Bills have owned the last 5 years of the division. Entering the season, 2 teams had lower odds to win the division. That was clearly ridiculous. Those 2 teams pushed their chips in and flamed out in epic fashion. Each team loaded up with vets putting out on 18. They both appear heading for massive rebuilds (the Jets more than the Fins).
 

The Bills arrow and trajectory is pointing up. This was a bit of a “reset” but without any step back. What does the division look like in 2025 and beyond? How long does the Bills run go? What changes do our “rivals” make? Who is the biggest threat? I personally think by late 2025 the Pats may be the next best team in the division. 😂😂 It’s interesting to me because generally after 4 straight division titles, the gap closes. It appears that the gap may never be bigger than it is right now. 

Great topic.

 

We have all watched a bad franchise stay bad in a division for 20 years.

 

The secret?  Make sure your rivals don't find the guy at QB.

 

When Brady was the class of the AFCE, he had to face a laundry list of BUMS at QB in Buffalo. Tyrod, Fitz, Losman, Edwards, EJ, Tuel, Thad Lewis etc etc etc.

 

The biggest reason our star started rising because we found Josh Allen.

 

From a law of averages, every year the other 3 teams don't take a QB, our chances of owning the division gets higher. I don't know who the Jets will find, but they have wasted 2 years on Rodgers. Every year they don't take a QB is good for us.

 

The Dolphins are locked into Tua and have been. When it comes to challenging the Bills for the AFCE, they would have been better off with him being a total bust.

 

Drake Maye is the biggest threat imo. If he ends up sucking, maybe Mayo starts another garbage Tyrod/Fitz QB for a year or two before he drafts another one. That would be excellent.

[HardyBoy]

13 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

This thread isn’t intended to trash the rest of the trash teams in the AFC East. We heard A LOT this offseason about Miami and the Jets overtaking the Bills. 2 months later, that sounds hilarious and a lot of “football people” lost credibility here. 😂😂 

 

The question is, “what’s next?” The Bills have owned the last 5 years of the division. Entering the season, 2 teams had lower odds to win the division. That was clearly ridiculous. Those 2 teams pushed their chips in and flamed out in epic fashion. Each team loaded up with vets putting out on 18. They both appear heading for massive rebuilds (the Jets more than the Fins).
 

The Bills arrow and trajectory is pointing up. This was a bit of a “reset” but without any step back. What does the division look like in 2025 and beyond? How long does the Bills run go? What changes do our “rivals” make? Who is the biggest threat? I personally think by late 2025 the Pats may be the next best team in the division. 😂😂 It’s interesting to me because generally after 4 straight division titles, the gap closes. It appears that the gap may never be bigger than it is right now. 

 

I think people might get a small pass for teams with bad offensive lines that ended up worst case scenario (though also could have been a highly likely scenario at the same time)

[Richard Noggin]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I will transition to a female if the Dolphins or Jets win the division next year.  

 

It's okay, you don't have to rationalize it. You do you.

[Richard Noggin]

 

Separately, we should probably wait to see what the Jets look like the next couple weeks. I hate them so very much, from top to bottom, but you can't deny the gnawing sense that they could in fact capitalize on renewed belief, a weak schedule, their QB's penchant for drama (and quackery), and the league's love of comebacks and large market viewership.

 

The Bills in week 17 might need to end the Jets season a second time in one...season. 

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Me too, I think they can contend with us though.  Do you think for both teams their records are indicative of their talent?  I think if Tua is healthy they're behind us still but not nearly as bad.  Let's not forget, they had a bit of a lead on us last year.  As for the Jets they're more complicated.  Bringing in Rodgers might have been a good move.  Bringing his buddies (HACKETT) not so much.

 

It takes more than talent in the NFL. You have to have the right culture too and the Jets culture sucks. 

 

As MIA they already lost a LOT of talent from last year, they are gonna lose a lot more after this year, and do I think they'd be close if Tua was healthy? Sure. But they are 1-3 with Tua and that 1 was extremely fortunate. I think they were always going to regress this year. I said before the season that 9 wins was their ceiling.

[BobbyC81]

23 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

I think these Josh Allen Bills teams end up winning more Division titles than the Jim Kelly Bills teams did which is really awesome

The big question is can we build it up to get to the point where we are going to(and hopefully winning🤞) Super Bowls

Unfortunately, KC and Baltimore are still in the AFC.  McD always seemed to have an effective game plan to contain Lamar Jackson.  Now that they have Henry, I don’t know if the Bills have the horses on defense to contain both of them.

 

Then in the NFC you have Detroit as probably the best team in the NFL right now and the Niners will likely go on their usual post bye run with McCaffrey returning.  These teams are all obstacles to winning a Super Bowl but anything can happen.  
 

Using a Bermanism, “That’s why they play the games”

[BillsPride12]

12 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:

Unfortunately, KC and Baltimore are still in the AFC.  McD always seemed to have an effective game plan to contain Lamar Jackson.  Now that they have Henry, I don’t know if the Bills have the horses on defense to contain both of them.

 

Then in the NFC you have Detroit as probably the best team in the NFL right now and the Niners will likely go on their usual post bye run with McCaffrey returning.  These teams are all obstacles to winning a Super Bowl but anything can happen.  
 

Using a Bermanism, “That’s why they play the games”

I agree.  I don't think this current Bills roster is built to win a Super Bowl at the moment but next offseason is going to be huge for Beane & Co.  We have a lot of draft capital and will have cap space.  We need to shore up the roster and fill in the holes in the offseason to get to that next level.  The nice thing is this roster is already good enough to continue to run the table in the Division

Edited November 7 by BillsPride12

[teef]

15 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I will transition to a female if the Dolphins or Jets win the division next year.  

Why wait?

[Royale with Cheese]

26 minutes ago, teef said:

Why wait?

 

Ever hear of the phrase "good things come to those who wait?"

 

 

[SoTier]

11 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Separately, we should probably wait to see what the Jets look like the next couple weeks. I hate them so very much, from top to bottom, but you can't deny the gnawing sense that they could in fact capitalize on renewed belief, a weak schedule, their QB's penchant for drama (and quackery), and the league's love of comebacks and large market viewership.

 

The Bills in week 17 might need to end the Jets season a second time in one...season. 

 

The Jets have talent but they are a deeply dysfunctional franchise.   They looked like a real team in their latest win, but the real test comes when things go south.  Whether you call it culture or team spirit or whatever, that connection among team members (both players and coaches) that enables teams like the Bills or Chiefs or Lions to face adversity with an all-for-one mentality is missing in the Jets where it seems that are other agendas at play.   Not only have numerous media analysts noticed this, but some players have also mentioned it, most surprisingly newcomer Davante Adams (or maybe not surprisingly since Rodgers hinted at the same thing earlier).   I can't see a team that deeply divided winning 6 or 7 games in the last half of the season.