Nick Veronica - Joe Brady is a betting favorite to become next Saints HC

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Yet year in and year out we see guys do just that. Ben Johnson, Dan Quinn and Bobby Slowik in particular have interviewed and later removed themselves from consideration for the last 3 years.

 

Some guys need to take bad jobs because it's their only chance. Dave Culley. Mike Petine. But the top guys who are in demand can afford to wait on a better opportunity. 

 

 

As of now - the majority of the expected openings are terrible.  

 

 

Saints is probably the worst because of their cap situation.

Jets isn't far off, bad cap, and either stuck with rodgers or have no QB.  

NYG might open up - no QB.

Browns - stuck with watsons terrible deal, worst owner in NFL

Bears - They have never had a good QB, and you're messing wtih like 100 years of history if you think you're the guy who can fix that

Raiders - no qb and unless brady can turn it around, poor ownership

Cowboys - have to deal with jerrah

Jags - Probably the most interesting

[MJS]

5 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

i mean laporta has been banged up

He has played in all 8 games. He isn't getting targeted much. He has 26 targets all year.

[Sojourner]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Except Johnson has passed jobs up two years in a row.

 

He passed on interviewing there. The Washington job was his and he had an about face last minute and turned it down. It wasn't quite Josh McDaniels and Indy but it wasn't far off.

That’s right. Remembered it incorrectly. 
 

Just did some reading, the report is he shot down the Panthers for an interview and declined the Washington job like you said. 
 

There’s more reports that the Seahawks is a job he declined to take also. 
 

The report was he notified several players during SB week that they had “unfinished business” and that he’d be returning. 

[Don Otreply]

Are team owners really that knee jerk?

[RoyBatty is alive]

22 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

 

As of now - the majority of the expected openings are terrible.  

 

 

Saints is probably the worst because of their cap situation.

Jets isn't far off, bad cap, and either stuck with rodgers or have no QB.  

NYG might open up - no QB.

Browns - stuck with watsons terrible deal, worst owner in NFL

Bears - They have never had a good QB, and you're messing wtih like 100 years of history if you think you're the guy who can fix that

Raiders - no qb and unless brady can turn it around, poor ownership

Cowboys - have to deal with jerrah

Jags - Probably the most interesting

Disagree on the Bears, they appear to have an emerging star at QB on a rookie deal, the ideal situation to be in and a burgeoning roster.  You sound superstitious about the Bears,  Certainly people would have said the same things about the Blls/Lions/Texans a few years ago and are now elite teams.

[BearNorth]

26 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

 

As of now - the majority of the expected openings are terrible.  

 

 

Saints is probably the worst because of their cap situation.

Jets isn't far off, bad cap, and either stuck with rodgers or have no QB.  

NYG might open up - no QB.

Browns - stuck with watsons terrible deal, worst owner in NFL

Bears - They have never had a good QB, and you're messing wtih like 100 years of history if you think you're the guy who can fix that

Raiders - no qb and unless brady can turn it around, poor ownership

Cowboys - have to deal with jerrah

Jags - Probably the most interesting

Jets owner is a beaut, Bears still have to deal with the Halas family, and the stadium issue, and haven't heard great things about Khan as a owner, suspect he would move the team to London if he were allowed to.  Interestingly, tho Lions, with arguably the least wealthy ownership in the league seem to have got things going in remarkably short order.

[TableDestoyer69]

That job is a death knell for a career. Brutal situation through at least 2026 for the Saints.

I'd put money on a coach like Flores or Vrabel who are desperate for another HC chance. Ben Johnson and Brady will get better opportunities if they're patient.

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

33 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

That’s right. Remembered it incorrectly. 
 

Just did some reading, the report is he shot down the Panthers for an interview and declined the Washington job like you said. 
 

There’s more reports that the Seahawks is a job he declined to take also. 
 

The report was he notified several players during SB week that they had “unfinished business” and that he’d be returning. 

I’d heard that he wanted the Chicago job, and if I were Bears ownership, I’d immediately fire Ebersuck and grab Johnson (no pun intended) to hopefully develop Williams 

7 minutes ago, TableDestoyer69 said:

That job is a death knell for a career. Brutal situation through at least 2026 for the Saints.

I'd put money on a coach like Flores or Vrabel who are desperate for another HC chance. Ben Johnson and Brady will get better opportunities if they're patient.

I have no idea why Vrabel should be desperate for a job … he’s a solid HC and I’m surprised he’s not the head man in NE

[BigAl2526]

Suppose Brady does take the New Orleans gig, who is next in line for Bills OC.  Another poster suggested Daboll.  He's definitely on the hot seat in New York but hasn't been fired yet.  Would he be the top choice of most posters here?  Is there another name that Bills fans like, who is likely to be available if Daboll is not?

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

5 hours ago, Back2Buff said:

There have been many more impressive offenses out there this year than the Bills.

I think teams are looking at it more as yea it’s not the best offense but look what he’s had to work with most of the season 

 

nor saying it’s right or wrong but that’s likely the thought process 

Edited November 5 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[Back2Buff]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I think teams are looking at it more as yea it’s not the best offense but look what he’s had to work with most of the season 

 

nor saying it’s right or wrong but that’s likely the thought process 

 

What you mean?  A top 5 QB, a pro bowl running, two good TEs (one a first round pick), a top o line unit, solid WRs?  He had plenty to work with.  We dont even run sweeps anymore.  

[Augie]

5 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

 

At this rate, Josh is going to have a new OC every year.

 

I am generally a McD supporter, but that’s the problem with a defensive oriented HC. If he has a good OC, the guy is gone before too long. If the HC is offensive minded, it’s much easier to keep a DC since most teams want offensive geniuses. 

[reddogblitz]

5 hours ago, Cray51 said:

The Saints should absolutely go with Ben Johnson at this point.  His offense has just produced a 6 game stretch that is incredible, and he would get something out of Carr and Kamara.

 

I know a lot of people are high on this guy but I'm not as certain. Granted he has run a great offense in Detroit.  But would he be a good Head Coach?  There is some overlap but its a different skill set.  And he has a stacked roster in Detroit with Goff, Gibbs, Montgomery, and LaPorta among others.  probably wont have that anywhere else he may land.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

29 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:

 

What you mean?  A top 5 QB, a pro bowl running, two good TEs (one a first round pick), a top o line unit, solid WRs?  He had plenty to work with.  We dont even run sweeps anymore.  

Now the wrs are solid?  I can’t keep up with this place 🤣. Amaris been healthy for 4 quarters where he saw like 30% of the snaps because he didn’t really know the playbook yet.  Is Knox a good TE? 
 

Idk that the oline is ‘top’ it’s definitely good though…kc and Detroit are a tier above us there imo 

2 minutes ago, reddogblitz said:

 

I know a lot of people are high on this guy but I'm not as certain. Granted he has run a great offense in Detroit.  But would he be a good Head Coach?  There is some overlap but its a different skill set.  And he has a stacked roster in Detroit with Goff, Gibbs, Montgomery, and LaPorta among others.  probably wont have that anywhere else he may land.

Their oline is ridiculous in Detroit…any decent OC could have good success there.  

[reddogblitz]

5 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Which is why philosophically it doesn't make sense to have a defensive head coach with an elite QB. 

 

It worked with Brady and the Patriots but that seems to be the exception, not the rule. 

 

Worked with Tom Landry. He got to the SB  with 2 different QBs and made the playoffs with 4 different ones.  Granted he cheated but Bill Bellyache did pretty well with his QB.

 

Mary Levy and John Harbaugh were both kicking teams coordinators. They seemed to do OK with their QBs.

 

I think the offensive/defensive coach thing is over rated.  How can you possibly be a good offensive coordinator without an intimate knowledge of defense and vice versa?

 

You need a great Head Coach.  Someone who can hire the right assistants, evaluate players, get the team psychologically ready to play, and make wise in game decisions.

 

 

Edited November 5 by reddogblitz

[K-9]

5 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Which is why philosophically it doesn't make sense to have a defensive head coach with an elite QB. 

 

It worked with Brady and the Patriots but that seems to be the exception, not the rule. 

Interesting food for thought. Shula, Landry, and Knoll were exceptions as well, but I agree the list is short indeed.

[Augie]

Just now, K-9 said:

Interesting food for thought. Shula, Landry, and Knoll were exceptions as well, but I agree the list is short indeed.

 

….and it goes back many decades when it was a different game. 

[K-9]

6 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

….and it goes back many decades when it was a different game. 

Agree entirely. Belichick is the only modern example that comes to mind.

[Comebackkid]

im not afraid of losing brady per se...im afraid they would prob make the wr or qb coach the new offensive coach afterwards

[Augie]

14 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Agree entirely. Belichick is the only modern example that comes to mind.

 

 

….but only with Brady. 

 

He’d have the most coaching wins in history already if he didn’t insist on being the GM.