SCBills Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) Something to note… Trump should have been able to win this election without the “Blue Wall” (which at this point we can probably just call the “Swing Wall”) They messed up on applying the apportionment of electoral votes for the census by this election. They will reapportion them for 2030. That will take electoral votes from NY and Cali to give them to red states. Edited November 7 by SCBills 1 2
SectionC3 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: Roundy, is this you? That's capitalism for you! There's plenty of other jobs for her out there. Let's get to work on cutting Medicare and Medicaid next. And welfare. Enough of that. Get to work, MAGA.
Tommy Callahan Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Aw. The banker/cartel controlled lady has the sads. 1 1
SectionC3 Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 16 hours ago, peterpan said: I really don’t think the Democrats know what could be coming. And it’s not scary. Despite the media meltdowns, Trump is not far right. He isn’t a conservative. Both he and Vance were Democrats most of their lives. RFK is the personification of the organic food and anti-pharma movement that has been a left wing movement since the hippies. Democrats used to be the anti war party. Now Tulsi Gabbard is on trumps team- she ran Bernie Sanders campaign 8 years ago! Democrats will get a lot of the things they have always wanted with Trump. Or at least the opportunity is there. Trump really has the chance to be the best of both worlds. Strong defense, but no war. Fixing our healthcare system by fixing our foods. Bring jobs back and lower taxes. Secure the boarder. The best policies of BOTH parties. I hope he doesn’t face another fabricated hoax or made by media controversy. We have a real opportunity here to reverse 25 years (or more) of bad decisions. He could easily become one of the most influential Presidents, and reshape America into the country we should be. There is some truth to this. He is not a conservative by any measure, except when it comes to the abortion issue. The economic plan is sort of an old school Republican thing from the 80s, but he's also trying to implement tax cuts that are extremely broad and, typical of Republicans, tend to give the upper and investor classes a lot and the middle and lower classes only a little. The problem he's going to run into is that he won't cut spending. The gamble is huge economic growth and trickle down, but historically those things either don't work or don't cover the tax cuts. So some tough choices will have to be made relative to cuts, which will inevitably impact services on which MAGA voters rely. It's sort of hilarious that Republicans (the party of Dick Cheney and George W. Bush) are casting Democrats as the pro-war or non anti-war party. Comical, actually, since both Iraq wars were products of a Republican administration. There's a difference between supporting NATO (peace through strength)/supplying military aid to Ukraine/Israel and wandering into a pointless second Iraq war. Fixing foods isn't going to fix healthcare, much as the anti-vax movement isn't going to make people healthier. A lot of this stuff is a reflection of frustration and anger with the state of society, as you said, over the past 25 years. I get it - especially and including the senseless war issue and the economic struggles. I disagree strongly with the economic approach (tariffs and flat taxes are idiotic ideas if you're in the middle class) and the bluster (Stop Socialism and Stop the Steal are crocks if I've ever heard them), and unfortunately I think MAGA is in for a lot more of the same on the economic pain side of things. This--Trump--is not the guy or the plan to fix what ails them, and I see this election as more voting people out (Biden/Harris) who have presided over a difficult period than voting someone else in. (I'll add that the basic metrics of the economy are actually really, really good right now, and that I think a lot of the frustrations relative to sticky prices are due to the fact that Americans lack fiscal discipline and are too stretched out to absorb so much as a flat tire, let alone any kind of elasticity in pricing.). Maybe--and this is where I fall--we can have a return to normalcy where people can stop calling me a pedophile and a communist and evil as a moderate, union Democrat, I'll stop making fun of MAGA for being morons who aren't actually racists but who support things that, if you're brown, kind of look like they're racist, we can stop the forever wars, and we can have an economic agenda (think Bernie Sanders, who is actually popular with MAGA) that is not insular (tariffs), that targets tax cuts to the middle class, that restores early Reagan-era top marginal tax rates, and that helps grow education, and tech, and green, and small business for the next generation. We can also reduce, but not eliminate, some foreign aid. Put all that together and you frankly get a little bit of MAGA and a lot more of Democrat, and all of a sudden you're in business. It's an agenda that I frankly think most people would agree with. Edited November 7 by SectionC3
Boatdrinks Posted November 7 Posted November 7 15 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: Where’s the best place to get live updates on the house race? I’m praying Trumps gets the house too so actual change can happen Fox News website has a lot of real time info
NeverOutNick Posted November 7 Posted November 7 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Fox News website has a lot of real time info It’s insane that it’s taking soooooo long to count these votes for the house. 1
Boatdrinks Posted November 7 Posted November 7 On 11/6/2024 at 10:49 AM, RiotAct said: Erie County PA Although, he did do a few points better in Erie County NY than he performed in 2020. Looking at a political map of NYS after this election is just so stunning. What the heck is the matter in Erie county NY? Every county around it got it right and voted Trump. Yes slightly better in 2024 than in 20 but my goodness EC is an embarrassment. 1
K D Posted November 7 Posted November 7 9 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Looking at a political map of NYS after this election is just so stunning. What the heck is the matter in Erie county NY? Every county around it got it right and voted Trump. Yes slightly better in 2024 than in 20 but my goodness EC is an embarrassment. It's a vote blue no matter who braindead wasteland. If you are normal, the only way you can win there is if you are a "conservative Democrat." If you ran as R you immediately lose. You need that D by your name. Sad to see. We need more free thinking people in this world. They can't break the habit of just always voting Democrat even though this isn't the same Democrat party of 15-20 years ago
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted November 7 Posted November 7 43 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: That's capitalism for you! There's plenty of other jobs for her out there. Let's get to work on cutting Medicare and Medicaid next. And welfare. Enough of that. Get to work, MAGA. Cry........more?
NeverOutNick Posted November 7 Posted November 7 19 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Now let’s go House! 🥳
4th&long Posted November 7 Posted November 7 2 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Now let’s go House! 🥳 Sounds like they will get the house. Everything is on the right. They will be responsible for everything! Let’s see what they can do? The whole world is watching.
Pokebball Posted November 7 Posted November 7 2 minutes ago, 4th&long said: They will be responsible for everything! Let’s see what they can do? The whole world is watching. Think AOC will help us end the fillibuster?
NeverOutNick Posted November 8 Posted November 8 Why is the house taking so long!!??! How does it take so many days and California is still in the 50 and 60% in these races 🤦🏻♂️🤔
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