BillsFan130 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago https://youtu.be/EPkedRDUGgI?si=RZxz3m4BYhHINKKG Main Summary/Observations if you don't want to watch the video -Dolphins had 31 rushing attempts for 159 yard- On 18 of those runs, Bills played light boxes and gave up 108 yards on those plays -Said Mcdaniel was very creative with motion and creating leverage on a lot of the runs -Said they were picking on Taron a lot in the run game and it seemed to me they were attacking him with Ingold a lot of the time My own thoughts from seeing that: -D line wasn't good, but as a lot of us know this was more scheme related into why the Bills couldn't stop the run yesterday -Miami was in 21 personnel a lot with Ingold, meanwhile Bills only had 6 guys in the box, or 7 with Taron. That right there^ is a massive advtantage for Miami, and it seemed like Mcdermott/Babich were betting on Mcdaniel getting away from the run, but he never did and remained patient all game long. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 12 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: https://youtu.be/EPkedRDUGgI?si=RZxz3m4BYhHINKKG Main Summary/Observations if you don't want to watch the video -Dolphins had 31 rushing attempts for 159 yard- On 18 of those runs, Bills played light boxes and gave up 108 yards on those plays -Said Mcdaniel was very creative with motion and creating leverage on a lot of the runs -Said they were picking on Taron a lot in the run game and it seemed to me they were attacking him with Ingold a lot of the time My own thoughts from seeing that: -D line wasn't good, but as a lot of us know this was more scheme related into why the Bills couldn't stop the run yesterday -Miami was in 21 personnel a lot with Ingold, meanwhile Bills only had 6 guys in the box, or 7 with Taron. That right there^ is a massive advtantage for Miami, and it seemed like Mcdermott/Babich were betting on Mcdaniel getting away from the run, but he never did and remained patient all game long. Meanwhile, the Bills averaged more yards per run than Miami did, yet we are not talking about how the Bills run game “gashed” the Dolphins. Bottom line: the Bills game plan worked and they won. The rest is noise. 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, FLFan said: Meanwhile, the Bills averaged more yards per run than Miami did, yet we are not talking about how the Bills run game “gashed” the Dolphins. Bottom line: the Bills game plan worked and they won. The rest is noise. Im not sure how the bills offence and winning the game has any relevance to this topic. Clearly the bills run defence struggled yesterday and there was a long thread yesterday on what happened to the defence. So just sharing it for anyone who wanted a breakdown. 7 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Sounds like we were more concerned about the passing game than the run game. 2 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Sounds like we were more concerned about the passing game than the run game. Exactly. And they even state ..that with the banged up secondary they played it very safe with 2 deep safeties to avoid the big passes. Like it or not… the coaching staff drew up a game plan to make the Fins sustain long drives. Give the Fins credit… they played exceptionally well, stayed patient and it almost paid off for them. For once, it was our kicker making the long, against all odds kick to win the game. But it could have easily gone the other way. I’m glad it didn’t and love the win. Now regroup, and move forward with a new game plan for a new opponent. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliBills Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Honestly - IF the Bills score on the Coleman drop/INT and Josh's 30yd scamper then Miami is behind majority of the game (at least initially) and that might have also changed the amount they ran the ball. 9 3 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 5 minutes ago, CaliBills said: Honestly - IF the Bills score on the Coleman drop/INT and Josh's 30yd scamper then Miami is behind majority of the game (at least initially) and that might have also changed the amount they ran the ball. Ya I agree. The first half game script definitely went in Miamis favour. In credit to them though, they were down 7 in the 4th quarter multiple times and continued to stay patient with the run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago One of the Bills, maybe Johnson, said after the game that the Bills were sort of giving the Dolphins the run. He sort of stumbled over it, but it was clear that the Bills were determined to keep the passing game under control and challenged everyone to make sure the run game didn't beat them. I think the Bills' defense did a great job. Ultimately, they didn't stop Miami much, but Miami comes at you with great, great skill players. In the end, only Ray Davis broke free for an explosive touchdown. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: One of the Bills, maybe Johnson, said after the game that the Bills were sort of giving the Dolphins the run. He sort of stumbled over it, but it was clear that the Bills were determined to keep the passing game under control and challenged everyone to make sure the run game didn't beat them. I think the Bills' defense did a great job. Ultimately, they didn't stop Miami much, but Miami comes at you with great, great skill players. In the end, only Ray Davis broke free for an explosive touchdown. Yep you're right it was Taron Johnson who did say that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 41 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: Im not sure how the bills offence and winning the game has any relevance to this topic. Clearly the bills run defence struggled yesterday and there was a long thread yesterday on what happened to the defence. So just sharing it for anyone who wanted a breakdown. It has every relevance to this topic. Focus on the “ struggle” of the Bills run defense is missing the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 41 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: https://youtu.be/EPkedRDUGgI?si=RZxz3m4BYhHINKKG Main Summary/Observations if you don't want to watch the video -Dolphins had 31 rushing attempts for 159 yard- On 18 of those runs, Bills played light boxes and gave up 108 yards on those plays -Said Mcdaniel was very creative with motion and creating leverage on a lot of the runs -Said they were picking on Taron a lot in the run game and it seemed to me they were attacking him with Ingold a lot of the time My own thoughts from seeing that: -D line wasn't good, but as a lot of us know this was more scheme related into why the Bills couldn't stop the run yesterday -Miami was in 21 personnel a lot with Ingold, meanwhile Bills only had 6 guys in the box, or 7 with Taron. That right there^ is a massive advtantage for Miami, and it seemed like Mcdermott/Babich were betting on Mcdaniel getting away from the run, but he never did and remained patient all game long. McDaniel hasn't been patient the entire time he's been the Dolphins coach. It was honestly his best playcalling night vs us in a while. Remember when they were up 7 week 18 last year ALL GAME and we still outrushed them by like 16 attempts? If McDaniels yesterday was calling that week 18 game, they win the division, imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago It seemed like one of the guards was always going before the snap (not by much) idk if it was because the silent count was going on but I saw it multiple plays they seemed to always have a jump on our dline 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrMaxPower Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago With Tua back and Waddle and Hill to deal with, I think it was a 'lesser of 2 evils' situation. History has proven that coaches rarely have the patience to stick to the run. That said, Daquan looks nothing like last year and it's really hurting us. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 14 minutes ago, FLFan said: It has every relevance to this topic. Focus on the “ struggle” of the Bills run defense is missing the point. So if bass misses the 61 yard field goal and the bills lose in regulation or overtime, then it's only appropriate to talk about it?🤦♂️ 11 minutes ago, FireChans said: McDaniel hasn't been patient the entire time he's been the Dolphins coach. It was honestly his best playcalling night vs us in a while. Remember when they were up 7 week 18 last year ALL GAME and we still outrushed them by like 16 attempts? If McDaniels yesterday was calling that week 18 game, they win the division, imo. Agreed. He was almost flawless. I watch a ton of Miami games and I think this was his best game as a coach calling plays Edited 4 hours ago by BillsFan130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: https://youtu.be/EPkedRDUGgI?si=RZxz3m4BYhHINKKG Main Summary/Observations if you don't want to watch the video -Dolphins had 31 rushing attempts for 159 yard- On 18 of those runs, Bills played light boxes and gave up 108 yards on those plays -Said Mcdaniel was very creative with motion and creating leverage on a lot of the runs -Said they were picking on Taron a lot in the run game and it seemed to me they were attacking him with Ingold a lot of the time My own thoughts from seeing that: -D line wasn't good, but as a lot of us know this was more scheme related into why the Bills couldn't stop the run yesterday -Miami was in 21 personnel a lot with Ingold, meanwhile Bills only had 6 guys in the box, or 7 with Taron. That right there^ is a massive advtantage for Miami, and it seemed like Mcdermott/Babich were betting on Mcdaniel getting away from the run, but he never did and remained patient all game long. Thank you for posting. This is what many of us here were saying before the stadium had even emptied. 59 minutes ago, FLFan said: Meanwhile, the Bills averaged more yards per run than Miami did, yet we are not talking about how the Bills run game “gashed” the Dolphins. Bottom line: the Bills game plan worked and they won. The rest is noise. This is a legitimate criticism of the Bills performance... that they arguably should have been running the ball more and passing less. 40 minutes ago, CaliBills said: Honestly - IF the Bills score on the Coleman drop/INT and Josh's 30yd scamper then Miami is behind majority of the game (at least initially) and that might have also changed the amount they ran the ball. As I and others posted after the game, this was a game that the Bills would have lost in seasons past. With bad calls going against them and a minus in the turnover ratio... Josh would have started playing hero ball and turning the ball over more. In a great game in which both sides showed patience and discipline, the Bills deserved this win. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: https://youtu.be/EPkedRDUGgI?si=RZxz3m4BYhHINKKG Main Summary/Observations if you don't want to watch the video -Dolphins had 31 rushing attempts for 159 yard- On 18 of those runs, Bills played light boxes and gave up 108 yards on those plays -Said Mcdaniel was very creative with motion and creating leverage on a lot of the runs -Said they were picking on Taron a lot in the run game and it seemed to me they were attacking him with Ingold a lot of the time My own thoughts from seeing that: -D line wasn't good, but as a lot of us know this was more scheme related into why the Bills couldn't stop the run yesterday -Miami was in 21 personnel a lot with Ingold, meanwhile Bills only had 6 guys in the box, or 7 with Taron. That right there^ is a massive advtantage for Miami, and it seemed like Mcdermott/Babich were betting on Mcdaniel getting away from the run, but he never did and remained patient all game long. Gruden said in his game preview that the Bills’ D goes as the d-line goes. The line had a much tougher time with Miami than Seattle because Miami’s line is quite good. Miami had a good plan, executed well, and still came up short. How many times did we see that during the Pats domination? Nice to be on the other side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: One of the Bills, maybe Johnson, said after the game that the Bills were sort of giving the Dolphins the run. He sort of stumbled over it, but it was clear that the Bills were determined to keep the passing game under control and challenged everyone to make sure the run game didn't beat them. I think the Bills' defense did a great job. Ultimately, they didn't stop Miami much, but Miami comes at you with great, great skill players. In the end, only Ray Davis broke free for an explosive touchdown. Mark Gaughn of the Buffalo News said something similar. He thinks the Bills played a vanilla defense designed to protect against the big play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Thank you for posting. This is what many of us here were saying before the stadium had even emptied. This is a legitimate criticism of the Bills performance... that they arguably should have been running the ball more and passing less. As I and others posted after the game, this was a game that the Bills would have lost in seasons past. With bad calls going against them and a minus in the turnover ratio... Josh would have started playing hero ball and turning the ball over more. In a great game in which both sides showed patience and discipline, the Bills deserved this win. No problem buddy! That's awesome you were at the game. How was the atmosphere, pretty crazy I would assume? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said: https://youtu.be/EPkedRDUGgI?si=RZxz3m4BYhHINKKG Main Summary/Observations if you don't want to watch the video -Dolphins had 31 rushing attempts for 159 yard- On 18 of those runs, Bills played light boxes and gave up 108 yards on those plays -Said Mcdaniel was very creative with motion and creating leverage on a lot of the runs -Said they were picking on Taron a lot in the run game and it seemed to me they were attacking him with Ingold a lot of the time My own thoughts from seeing that: -D line wasn't good, but as a lot of us know this was more scheme related into why the Bills couldn't stop the run yesterday -Miami was in 21 personnel a lot with Ingold, meanwhile Bills only had 6 guys in the box, or 7 with Taron. That right there^ is a massive advtantage for Miami, and it seemed like Mcdermott/Babich were betting on Mcdaniel getting away from the run, but he never did and remained patient all game long. This was obvious just from watching the game on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago Just now, K-9 said: This was obvious just from watching the game on TV. Yep I agree. Just wanted to share the confirmation essentially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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