Saints fired Dennis Allen …. who’s next?

[JGMcD2]

27 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

btw, now that I answered your questions. Who do you have as a HC who took 7+ years with his QB to win a Super Bowl?

Hahaha you very conveniently removed the rest of my response from the reply 😂😂😂

 

We both know the answer to that question, it’s been spouted off here hundreds of times. Nobody has done it. Don’t worry, it is all good though, I have a plan to get some fresh blood in here, I think you’re going to love it! 

 

It starts with hiring Todd Haley as the 21st Head Coach of the Buffalo Bills. His three season stint as a NFL Head Coach in Kansas City wasn’t great (19-26), but I’m confident that he’s learned a ton in his time with the Tampa Bay Bandits of the USFL in 2022 and the Memphis Showboats in the UFL in 2023. We also can’t forget the job he did developing QBs at Riverview High School from 2020-2022. He should be able to take that next step. 
 

In conjunction with hiring Haley, we’ll trade Josh Allen, because there’s a better Josh available that people are overlooking. That’s “right”, Josh Rosen. Be prepared though, we’re going to have to agree on compensation to pry him away from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. I can’t imagine that Wharton will let him go for cheap! 
 

The best part is, it will be their first season together as a HC/QB combination, which means the odds of them winning a Super Bowl increase dramatically.
 

Don’t get made at me, I’m just giving you what you wanted. 

Edited November 4 by JGMcD2

[billsfan_34]

7 hours ago, JP51 said:

I had McCarthy, Peterson, and Daboll before him... but its starting... Looks like Belichek gonna have several landing spots if he wants them... I am picking the Cowboys.

Doubt BB will go work for JJ

[SoTier]

 

 

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Fair enough, and I am definitely not saying he should be fired today. I'll give him one more playoff series to work with. And mark my words, if McD proves me wrong and does win a Championship, then I am all for giving him a lifetime contract and carte blanche to do whatever he wants whenever he wants however he wants.

 

 

My easy answer is: that's not up for us to decide. That is why Terry pays the consulting firm a lot of money. And there werent many people around when we were complaining about Rex Ryan who were arguing for Sean McDermott (or even knew who he was at that point).

 

But if you want names of guys I've never met or interviewed then I'd say:

 

Mike Vrabel, from a situational awareness/master of the game perspective. A Belichick disciple who, more than once, has beaten BB at his own tricks with pushing the limits to the rules of the game. I'd even gauge his level of interest in keeping Joe Brady at OC.

 

Outside of Vrabel, any of the hot OCs, Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowick, whoever. Since nowadays, if you dont make your OC the HC then someone else will and you'll always have instability for your QB.

 

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btw, now that I answered your questions. Who do you have as a HC who took 7+ years with his QB to win a Super Bowl?

 

 

 

You want to fire McDermott to hire Vrabel?????   Seriously???  🤣  Belichick disciples have been notably unimpressive as Head Coaches at best, so that's NOT a point in his favor.  In his 6 seasons as HC in Tennessee, Vrabel has a record of 54-45.  Three of his teams made the playoffs.  His playoff record is 2 wins, 3 losses with the 2 wins in the same season -- wild card and divisional wins, which isn't any better than McDermott's playoff record. 

 

The history of the NFL is littered with "hot" OCs (and DCs, too) who failed miserably as HCs.  

 

As for "wasting Josh Allen" by not making conference championships that's bull manure.    Playing in the playoffs every season isn't "wasting" a QB's talent because making the playoffs in the NFL is incredibly hard --especially when a QB is at the mercy of mercurial ownership as well as front offices and coaching staffs of questionable quality so their opportunities are extremely limited.  Ask Matthew Stafford.  He played for the Lions for 11 seasons and made the playoffs 3 times and never won a single playoff game.

 

As for your question, "btw, now that I answered your questions. Who do you have as a HC who took 7+ years with his QB to win a Super Bowl?", as the disclaimers on personal injury lawyers' ads always says, "prior results don't guarantee future outcomes".

Edited November 5 by SoTier

[DCofNC]

6 minutes ago, SoTier said:

 

 

 

You want to fire McDermott to hire Vrabel?????   Seriously???  🤣  Belichick disciples have been notably unimpressive as Head Coaches at best, so that's NOT a point in his favor.  In his 6 seasons as HC in Tennessee, Vrabel has a record of 54-45.  Three of his teams made the playoffs.  His playoff record is 2 wins, 3 losses with the 2 wins in the same season -- wild card and divisional wins, which isn't any better than McDermott's playoff record. 

 

The history of the NFL is littered with "hot" OCs (and DCs, too) who failed miserably as HCs.  

 

As for "wasting Josh Allen" by not making conference championships that's bull manure.    Playing in the playoffs every season isn't "wasting" a QB's talent because making the playoffs in the NFL is incredibly hard --especially when a QBs is at the mercy of mercurial ownership as well as front offices and coaching staffs of questionable quality so their opportunities .  Ask Matthew Stafford.  He played for the Lions for 11 seasons and made the playoffs 3 times and never won a single playoff game.

Yep, and sadly, Josh will follow in his footsteps to be traded late in his career to a team that understands how to win and just needs a QB, allowing him to finally win a SB.  Meanwhile, the Bills will have had lots of playoff appearances with their defensive coach watching his defense collapse against real competition for 10 years in a row.

[Chicken Boo]

If there were an average line in the NFL for QBs, it's Derek Carr.  He isn't even slightly above average.

[stuvian]

getting back to the original theme of thread, we've learned from the Saleh firing that losing in London is cause for dismissal.

 

We've learned from the Dennis Allen firing that losing to Carolina is cause for termination.

 

I'm afraid that if the Giants lose to Carolina in London, Daboll will have to find his own way home.

[ganesh]

On 11/5/2024 at 5:22 AM, SoTier said:

 

 

 

You want to fire McDermott to hire Vrabel?????   Seriously???  🤣  Belichick disciples have been notably unimpressive as Head Coaches at best, so that's NOT a point in his favor.  In his 6 seasons as HC in Tennessee, Vrabel has a record of 54-45.  Three of his teams made the playoffs.  His playoff record is 2 wins, 3 losses with the 2 wins in the same season -- wild card and divisional wins, which isn't any better than McDermott's playoff record. 

 

The history of the NFL is littered with "hot" OCs (and DCs, too) who failed miserably as HCs.  

 

As for "wasting Josh Allen" by not making conference championships that's bull manure.    Playing in the playoffs every season isn't "wasting" a QB's talent because making the playoffs in the NFL is incredibly hard --especially when a QB is at the mercy of mercurial ownership as well as front offices and coaching staffs of questionable quality so their opportunities are extremely limited.  Ask Matthew Stafford.  He played for the Lions for 11 seasons and made the playoffs 3 times and never won a single playoff game.

 

As for your question, "btw, now that I answered your questions. Who do you have as a HC who took 7+ years with his QB to win a Super Bowl?", as the disclaimers on personal injury lawyers' ads always says, "prior results don't guarantee future outcomes".

Winning SB is hard....

Rodgers won 1 SB in his 10+ years with the packers

Brees won 1 SB in his 10+ years with the Saints

Big Ben won 2 SB in his storied career and so did the Manning brothers. 

[Sierra Foothills]

On 11/4/2024 at 7:38 AM, Sestak4ever said:

Interesting to see who is next.

 

My boss hasn't been laughing at my jokes lately... 

 

On 11/4/2024 at 7:51 AM, Gregg said:

I would also add the Jets as their DC was promoted only to interim HC. I bet they will be looking for a new HC after the season.

 

I know he was just demoted from OC but there's been persistent rumors that GM Aaron Rodgers will be hiring Nathaniel Hackett as the new Head Coach.

 

On 11/4/2024 at 7:43 AM, Bruffalo said:

Dallas. Jerry Jones requires a sacrifice. 

 

On 11/4/2024 at 7:48 AM, Gregg said:

McCarthy would be my guess. 

 

On 11/4/2024 at 7:53 AM, JP51 said:

Mid Season, the Cowboys.

 

On 11/4/2024 at 7:55 AM, Fixxxer said:

The cowboys offense loooks like dog turd, my brother was up in arms all day long during that game......

Either they fire the HC or they start looking for a new QB.... 

 

Of the 8 Head Coaches that Jerry Jones has hired, he's only fired one during the season.

 

If Jones no longer wants someone coaching his team he doesn't extend their contracts. McCarthy's contract expires after this season. He'll be replaced... this offseason.