NFL HC Openings

[Saxum]

9 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What is worse? NOT winning a Super Bowl?

 

With Josh on the team we arent winning less than 9-10 games even if I were the head coach.

 

I agree after Bills are a little league team.  

 

We would be praying for Rex Ryan to come back.

[What a Tuel]

16 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What is worse? NOT winning a Super Bowl?

 

With Josh on the team we arent winning less than 9-10 games even if I were the head coach. And given the state of the rest of our Division, we should have a seat at that table every year. Not being arrogant or entitled, just realistic. The Division stinks and we dont, and it's ours to lose. So the bare minimum of "making the playoffs" is pretty much a given.

 

And then if the new coach gets bounced early, well, it didnt work out but at least we werent spinning our wheels hoping McDermott magically changes into something he is obviously not.

 

I think you underestimate how much McDermott elevates the defense. There is a reason why despite so many injuries, the next man up is prepared and capable. It has a lot to do with talent evaluation but also to do with the coaching putting players in positions to succeed. 

 

At the end of the day I dont blame McDermott for Bass missing the tying field goal against the chiefs, I don't blame McDermott for Allen missing the open throw for a 1st down and clock burning against the Chiefs. I dont even blame McDermott for the hail murray Cardinals game, the hail mary in the Jets game this year. Each of those situations which you consider fire worthy for McDermott the players were in the position to succeed and they didn't execute. 

 

There is one situation that bothers me about McDermott and that is whether or not there was a communication failure on kickoff in 13 seconds, and why they didn't have someone there to tackle Kelce as soon as he caught the ball to put them in FG range.

[DrDawkinstein]

2 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

I think you underestimate how much McDermott elevates the defense. There is a reason why despite so many injuries, the next man up is prepared and capable. It has a lot to do with talent evaluation but also to do with the coaching putting players in positions to succeed. 

 

At the end of the day I dont blame McDermott for Bass missing the tying field goal against the chiefs, I don't blame McDermott for Allen missing the open throw for a 1st down and clock burning against the Chiefs. I dont even blame McDermott for the hail murray Cardinals game, the hail mary in the Jets game this year. Each of those situations which you consider fire worthy for McDermott the players were in the position to succeed and they didn't execute. 

 

There is one situation that bothers me about McDermott and that is whether or not there was a communication failure on kickoff in 13 seconds, and why they didn't have someone there to tackle Kelce as soon as he caught the ball to put them in FG range.

 

Disagree on many accounts here.

 

The Jets Hail Mary for example. Everyone knows Rodgers loves Hail Marys. The broadcast was ready to cut to a Rodgers Hail Mary montage they expected it so much. Everyone, but Sean McDermott apparently.

 

McDermott made the coaching decision to "defend the sidelines". McDermott made the coaching decision to only rush 3 and give them all the time to set up the bomb. McDermott made the decision to not put any tall hands players (like Hollins and Kincaid) on the field.

 

McDermott did not put his players in the best position to succeed. And I'd argue he set them up to fail with bad situational awareness (his calling card), a bad scheme, and bad personnel decisions.

[Rubes]

56 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Bad teams like the Chiefs pushing Eric Bieniemy out and replacing him with Matt Nagy? Or the 12-4 Chiefs firing their DC for Steve Spagnuolo?

 

Good is the enemy is Great, and it has never been so well illustrated as watching everyone with Battered Bills Fan Syndrome being happy to stick with coaches out of fear that it could be worse.

 

Yall treat every suggestion of getting better as a direct insult to the current guy. Brady has done a good job so far, I actually like him a lot. Doesnt mean we cant do better or shouldnt be looking to do so.

 

I suspect this will not be a popular take, but it's a pretty good one.

 

I'm not advocating for getting rid of McD or anyone right now, but if your goal is greatness, or a championship, or whatever is the top of your field, then settling for good only keeps you from getting there. The trick is distinguishing the ones that *can* get you to the top from the ones who *never will*.

 

 

Edited November 4 by Rubes

[What a Tuel]

15 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Disagree on many accounts here.

 

The Jets Hail Mary for example. Everyone knows Rodgers loves Hail Marys. The broadcast was ready to cut to a Rodgers Hail Mary montage they expected it so much. Everyone, but Sean McDermott apparently.

 

McDermott made the coaching decision to "defend the sidelines". McDermott made the coaching decision to only rush 3 and give them all the time to set up the bomb. McDermott made the decision to not put any tall hands players (like Hollins and Kincaid) on the field.

 

McDermott did not put his players in the best position to succeed. And I'd argue he set them up to fail with bad situational awareness (his calling card), a bad scheme, and bad personnel decisions.

 

Eh, agree to disagree. I count 4 Bills Players guarding 2 Jets WRs in the endzone here. 5 on 3 if you count the Bills/Jets player on the left.

 

There is zero reason the players shouldnt execute here and bat the ball down (edit: specifically the player in front, I think that's Johnson. What is he doing?). This was perfectly fine defense.

 

 

Edited November 4 by What a Tuel

[DrDawkinstein]

Just now, Rubes said:

I suspect this will not be a popular take, but it's a pretty good one.

 

I'm not advocating for getting rid of McD or anyone right now, but if your goal is greatness, or a championship, or whatever is the top of your field, then settling for good only keeps you from getting there. The trick is distinguishing the ones that *can* get you to the top from the ones who *never will*.

 

 

Thanks, man. I dont even want to be banging this drum, nor am I really. I'm just responding to folks wanting to shut down any discussion of improving the coaching as if it's blasphemous to criticize McD because he was HC when we broke the drought (8 years ago).

 

I like McD. Great man. Good HC. Would probably be exactly what the Panthers need right now. Teams like that.

 

But when the standard is no longer "breaking the drought", but rather "maximizing our generational franchise QB to win at least 1 Championship", the requirements change.

[Chandler#81]

I don’t see how McDaniel isn’t fired in Miami. When you’re hired to beat Buffalo, you’re going to get fired for thoroughly not accomplishing your hiring parameters.

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Eh, agree to disagree. I count 4 Bills Players guarding 2 Jets WRs in the endzone here. 5 on 3 if you count the Bills/Jets player on the left.

 

There is zero reason the players shouldnt execute here and bat the ball down (edit: specifically the player in front, I think that's Johnson. What is he doing?). This was perfectly fine defense.

 

 

 

Lazard is 6'5". Look up the height of everyone else the Bills had out. Should have had a couple of tall WRs back there. I'm not the first person to make up that strategy. It's a pretty common move. Common for everyone but McD who was surprised by this play as he admitted in his sideline interview going into the locker room at half.

 

 

[Saxum]

6 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

I don’t see how McDaniel isn’t fired in Miami. When you’re hired to beat Buffalo, you’re going to get fired for thoroughly not accomplishing your hiring parameters.

 

Owner does not want to pay out the contract and he has high priced players which fit his scheme.

[What a Tuel]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Lazard is 6'5". Look up the height of everyone else the Bills had out. Should have had a couple of tall WRs back there. I'm not the first person to make up that strategy. It's a pretty common move. Common for everyone but McD who was surprised by this play as he admitted in his sideline interview going into the locker room at half.

 

So the players out there can cover against 6'5" lazard except in hail mary scenario? eh agree to disagree. Im not going to rake McDermott over the coals for this and I dont think he was "surprised" either.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

18 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

So the players out there can cover against 6'5" lazard except in hail mary scenario? eh agree to disagree. Im not going to rake McDermott over the coals for this and I dont think he was "surprised" either.

 

 

He literally said as much in his sideline interview immediately following that play headed into the locker room. They were defending the sideline and Rodgers went with the Hail Mary that they werent ready for.

 

How many Hail Marys have been thrown? How many actually ever connect? The term "Hail Mary" is synonymous with a low-percentage desperation play. But McDermott has a couple famous ones against him already. It's a problem. And it's his problem to fix.

 

Sorry man, but this is getting into levels of delusion with some of this infallible McDermott worship among Bills fans.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

With Dennis Allen being fired by the Saints this morning, that’s two openings now before week nine is officially over. 
 

- NYJ

- New Orleans

 

Would have to imagine changes are coming in Dallas, NY Giants and Jax. 

The world will be beating a path to Nathaniel Hackett's door!

🤔

🙄

[What a Tuel]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

He literally said as much in his sideline interview immediately following that play headed into the locker room. They were defending the sideline and Rodgers went with the Hail Mary that they werent ready for.

 

How many Hail Marys have been thrown? How many actually ever connect? The term "Hail Mary" is synonymous with a low-percentage desperation play. But McDermott has a couple famous ones against him already. It's a problem. And it's his problem to fix.

 

Sorry man, but this is getting into levels of delusion with some of this infallible McDermott worship among Bills fans.

 

Do you have a link to his sideline comments?

 

What are the famous hail marys? against the cardinals and against the jets? Against the cardinals you had 3 defensive players around Hopkins and none of them were able to bat the ball down. How many more were needed? 5? 6?

[DrDawkinstein]

9 minutes ago, What a Tuel said:

 

Do you have a link to his sideline comments?

 

What are the famous hail marys? against the cardinals and against the jets? Against the cardinals you had 3 defensive players around Hopkins and none of them were able to bat the ball down. How many more were needed? 5? 6?

 

You can google it as well as I can probably. It's him and Laura Rutledge He spoke about it in his post-game as well, I know that is out there.

 

Surprised you dont remember it if you watched the game. It was a pretty big deal and discusssed in depth on the board here.

 

He says they were defending the sideline to prevent a FG. I guess he stopped the FG, so mission accomplished?

 

Found this 15min video on the Jets Hail Mary play. Probably a bit too much and the guy is annoying, but looks like all of McDermott's post game comments are included. And raises even better questions about scheme and game plan. Especially using Bernard as a QB spy.

 

 

[Mister Defense]

8 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Bad teams like the Chiefs pushing Eric Bieniemy out and replacing him with Matt Nagy? Or the 12-4 Chiefs firing their DC for Steve Spagnuolo?

 

Good is the enemy is Great, and it has never been so well illustrated as watching everyone with Battered Bills Fan Syndrome being happy to stick with coaches out of fear that it could be worse.

 

Yall treat every suggestion of getting better as a direct insult to the current guy. Brady has done a good job so far, I actually like him a lot. Doesnt mean we cant do better or shouldnt be looking to do so.

 

Makes zero sense to think that getting rid of Brady and replacing him, after taking a moribund offense that was lost, confused, desperate, and regressing, and turning it completely around over night, and ending the season almost going undefeated save for a 59 yard field goal...

 

and  after going 13-3 in his first 16 games, and, this year, 7-2, with a revamped offense, with almost all new wide receivers, and turning it into one of the best, most dynamic offenses in the league, in both their running and passing... and top 5 in points per game...

 

and somehow, knowing all of these things, all of these facts (strange things, these facts, eh?) thinking: 'Hmm, it seems we could do better, move on from this guy now. This is clearly an area of our team we must get better at than this."

 

Only dumb and extremely incompetent GMs, and clearly with some kind of personal axe to grind, would think this makes sense. And GMs, people, with no sense whatsoever.  Ludicrous.

 

Not saying Brady is  the 2nd coming of Reid  now, but hard to imagine a much better start to his tenure here as OC.

 

Any GM or business owner with the philosophy you suggest,  and in a case like this, would surely lead their team or business directly into the ground.  Yup, you always want to make your team or business  or school, or whatever it is, better, better than good, great, but you will not ever get there by doing supremely illogical things. And just throwing all of the objective evidence out the window as you make decisions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 5 by Mister Defense

[Chandler#81]

16 hours ago, Saxum said:

 

Owner does not want to pay out the contract and he has high priced players which fit his scheme.

He's already fired 3 HCs for this reason.

[Mister Defense]

20 hours ago, Bangarang said:

 

 

As unlikely as it is, I would dump Brady for Stefanski in nano second.

 

 

 

So, from what you have seen from Brady, the resurrecting of the Bills' offense overnight, the 13-3 record since he took over, the resurrection of the Bills ground game, one of the best offenses in the NFL this year, even after significant off season changes etcetera etcetera etcetera...

 

You would "dump Brady" with, literally no thought whatsover, as you say, in less than a second,  in a "nano second"?

 

So, to you, Brady has been soo bad as the Bills' OC, you would not even have to THINK about a move to Stefanski, not even consider any of the objective information available, no stats, no evidence of Brady's tenure as the OC, don't need to weigh the pros and cons of both men as OCs, not consider what Brady has done so far? At all. 

 

And ditto for Stefanski--what he has done so far as an OC is soo good to you, so superb, so superlative, that you would not even need to think about firing Brady and replacing him with Stefanski?

 

For you, a "nano second" is all you need to make this major decision? So, that clearly implies no thoughts needed, no consideration of any facts, evidence, comparison, and basic reasoning needed?  You would automatically do this without any consideration?

 

Why?

 

One would think with such a definitive point of you, and no thoughts or consideration on this move needed, that there would be something that caused this to happen inside your head.  But none are spoken of in your post.  What leads you to your decision?

 

 

Can you tell us why?

 

 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

 

[SoTier]

19 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What is worse? NOT winning a Super Bowl?

 

With Josh on the team we arent winning less than 9-10 games even if I were the head coach. And given the state of the rest of our Division, we should have a seat at that table every year. Not being arrogant or entitled, just realistic. The Division stinks and we dont, and it's ours to lose. So the bare minimum of "making the playoffs" is pretty much a given.

 

And then if the new coach gets bounced early, well, it didnt work out but at least we werent spinning our wheels hoping McDermott magically changes into something he is obviously not.

 

ROTFLMAO.  Obviously you weren't a Bills fan between 2000 and 2016.   I guarantee you that there are a whole lot worse situations for a fan than having your team be a serious championship contender every year. 

 

And for the record, Matthew Stafford never won a playoff game in his 11 seasons with Detroit, and only had 4 winning seasons.   In his last season in GB, Aaron Wilson failed to lead the Packers to the playoffs despite playing a full season.  Thinking that the Bills are guaranteed winning seasons because they have Allen is just plain ignorance.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

On 11/4/2024 at 10:35 AM, Bangarang said:

 

 

As unlikely as it is, I would dump Brady for Stefanski in nano second.

He’d probably hold out for another head coaching job.  The failed Watson experiment is really all that doomed him and it’s a pretty easy sell that that decision was above his pay grade 

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

ROTFLMAO.  Obviously you weren't a Bills fan between 2000 and 2016.   I guarantee you that there are a whole lot worse situations for a fan than having your team be a serious championship contender every year. 

 

And for the record, Matthew Stafford never won a playoff game in his 11 seasons with Detroit, and only had 4 winning seasons.   In his last season in GB, Aaron Wilson failed to lead the Packers to the playoffs despite playing a full season.  Thinking that the Bills are guaranteed winning seasons because they have Allen is just plain ignorance.

The whole ‘only the qb matters on a football team’ way of thinking is reaching absurd levels lol and it’s so ironic to me because the chiefs have mahomes and are mostly winning in other ways..  there’s a lot of important guys on a football team and any one of them can step up and make a game changing play