Bills have 3rd best rushing defense!

[Rubes]

…according to DVOA.

 

 

I don’t know what DVOA is, and I definitely don’t know what it means, but I do know that I will no longer pay any attention to it.

 

 

[dma0034]

The Bills really did a number on the Seahawks.

 

I think it's because they invite the run being in the 2 safety shell. The Bills just don't have the DT and LBs to completely stuff the run

[Sweats]

Wow, 3rd best......not from what i've seen, but if that's what they're going with, i won't argue.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Rubes said:

…according to DVOA.

 

 

I don’t know what DVOA is, and I definitely don’t know what it means, but I do know that I will no longer pay any attention to it.

 

 

 

It's stats that account for quality of competition.  I'd have to venture a guess that Baltimore, Arizona, and Houston are among the higher quality teams by rushing DVOA, miami x2 isn't a bad rush offense, Jags are 9th in YPC, hell even the titans aren't terrible running the ball.  

[Dr.Sack]

Let’s invite the thing that injures our LBs and Def core and eventually leads to our collapse in the playoffs. 

[Chicken Boo]

🤨 If they say so. 

 

Jonathan Taylor next week.  

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Dvoa is actually one of my favorite metrics honestly…don’t think it’s updated from yesterday though I’d expect that to drop.  The website still shows us at 6-2 

 

it normalizes for opponents so Baltimore running us out of the building doesn’t hurt as much since Baltimore runs everyone out of the building.

 

ooh screenshot says 7-2 hmm I wonder if they go back to last year for quality of opponent or something like that.  Idk how you even quantify miamis strength as an opponent this year 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Generic_Bills_Fan

[strive_for_five_guy]

Sweet, I’ve always loved DVOA.

[US Egg]

10 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

ooh screenshot says 7-2 hmm I wonder if they go back to last year for quality of opponent or something like that.  Idk how you even quantify miamis strength as an opponent this year 

Go back to Miami’s offense last year and yesterday’s game was on par statistically. They were a tough out last year. 
 

If one is willing to consider that, then it’s not a stretch to say the Bills held their own against a very good offense and that there’s not a whole lot to read into their performance yesterday.

[colin]

getting leads and playing bad teams helps us a ton, but the real issue is the key to unlock our d is misdirection and quick to the hole runs, and getting us to bite on play action in the passing game.

 

cinci, kc, baltimore, all of them can do that to us all day.  there is a reason why we have so many regular season wins, great regular season d stats, and get bounced out of the divisional round so hard with big defensive failures -- if you have the scheme and horses we are easy to solve.

[billsbackto81]

Allowed 4.8 a carry yesterday, but if DVOA says so,  who am I to disagree.

[Juice_32]

Just watching the game it sure feels like we get gashed badly. But they do seem to get a decent amount of TFL's on first down and that's usually when they get off the field.

[RiotAct]

41 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:

Sweet, I’ve always loved DVOA.

damn you!!!  Came in here to post the same thing!

[nedboy7]

The fan-base is too smart to let anything distract them from their hatred of the Bills. 

[GunnerBill]

DVOA is adjusted for opponents. Every team we have played this year is a reasonable rush attack. So I suppose we have kept some below their average. 

[Rigotz]

For those making fun of DVOA, it's not a complicated stat and is commonly referenced.

 

It just means your defensive ranking when you account for the competition you played against.

 

For example, if you got crushed by the Ravens on the ground, it's ok, everybody did. 

 

The problem is it doesn't account for game script and that's why Bills run DVOA is good. We put teams in negative game scripts and made them pass a lot. Hence, making the defensive DVOA score better.

 

 

*Edit - negative game script means we were winning by a lot and they were trying to catch up*

 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Rigotz

[fergie's ire]

41 minutes ago, US Egg said:

Go back to Miami’s offense last year and yesterday’s game was on par statistically. They were a tough out last year. 
 

If one is willing to consider that, then it’s not a stretch to say the Bills held their own against a very good offense and that there’s not a whole lot to read into their performance yesterday.

I think it's actually on par with the game back in September.  Achane was getting over 7 yards a carry and the Dolphins just didn't commit to it.  They learned their lesson.

[transient]

So am I to assume DVOA doesn’t consider RBs running free untouched beyond 10 yds downfield from the LOS in its algorithm?

[TheyCallMeAndy]

Heavy personnel and a powerful RB with speed, it’s bad news 

 

Otherwise I feel like it’s good enough. 

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Rubes said:

…according to DVOA.

 

 

I don’t know what DVOA is, and I definitely don’t know what it means, but I do know that I will no longer pay any attention to it.

 

 

These millennial analytics are getting ridiculous. They're just making stuff up and pretending there's some amazing formula.