Rubes Posted November 4 Posted November 4 …according to DVOA. I don’t know what DVOA is, and I definitely don’t know what it means, but I do know that I will no longer pay any attention to it. 1 8 1 Quote
dma0034 Posted November 4 Posted November 4 The Bills really did a number on the Seahawks. I think it's because they invite the run being in the 2 safety shell. The Bills just don't have the DT and LBs to completely stuff the run Quote
Sweats Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Wow, 3rd best......not from what i've seen, but if that's what they're going with, i won't argue. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Just now, Rubes said: …according to DVOA. I don’t know what DVOA is, and I definitely don’t know what it means, but I do know that I will no longer pay any attention to it. It's stats that account for quality of competition. I'd have to venture a guess that Baltimore, Arizona, and Houston are among the higher quality teams by rushing DVOA, miami x2 isn't a bad rush offense, Jags are 9th in YPC, hell even the titans aren't terrible running the ball. 1 Quote
Dr.Sack Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Let’s invite the thing that injures our LBs and Def core and eventually leads to our collapse in the playoffs. 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) Dvoa is actually one of my favorite metrics honestly…don’t think it’s updated from yesterday though I’d expect that to drop. The website still shows us at 6-2 it normalizes for opponents so Baltimore running us out of the building doesn’t hurt as much since Baltimore runs everyone out of the building. ooh screenshot says 7-2 hmm I wonder if they go back to last year for quality of opponent or something like that. Idk how you even quantify miamis strength as an opponent this year Edited November 4 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 Quote
US Egg Posted November 4 Posted November 4 10 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: ooh screenshot says 7-2 hmm I wonder if they go back to last year for quality of opponent or something like that. Idk how you even quantify miamis strength as an opponent this year Go back to Miami’s offense last year and yesterday’s game was on par statistically. They were a tough out last year. If one is willing to consider that, then it’s not a stretch to say the Bills held their own against a very good offense and that there’s not a whole lot to read into their performance yesterday. Quote
colin Posted November 4 Posted November 4 getting leads and playing bad teams helps us a ton, but the real issue is the key to unlock our d is misdirection and quick to the hole runs, and getting us to bite on play action in the passing game. cinci, kc, baltimore, all of them can do that to us all day. there is a reason why we have so many regular season wins, great regular season d stats, and get bounced out of the divisional round so hard with big defensive failures -- if you have the scheme and horses we are easy to solve. 1 Quote
billsbackto81 Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Allowed 4.8 a carry yesterday, but if DVOA says so, who am I to disagree. Quote
Juice_32 Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Just watching the game it sure feels like we get gashed badly. But they do seem to get a decent amount of TFL's on first down and that's usually when they get off the field. Quote
RiotAct Posted November 4 Posted November 4 41 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Sweet, I’ve always loved DVOA. damn you!!! Came in here to post the same thing! 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted November 4 Posted November 4 The fan-base is too smart to let anything distract them from their hatred of the Bills. 3 Quote
GunnerBill Posted November 4 Posted November 4 DVOA is adjusted for opponents. Every team we have played this year is a reasonable rush attack. So I suppose we have kept some below their average. Quote
Rigotz Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) For those making fun of DVOA, it's not a complicated stat and is commonly referenced. It just means your defensive ranking when you account for the competition you played against. For example, if you got crushed by the Ravens on the ground, it's ok, everybody did. The problem is it doesn't account for game script and that's why Bills run DVOA is good. We put teams in negative game scripts and made them pass a lot. Hence, making the defensive DVOA score better. *Edit - negative game script means we were winning by a lot and they were trying to catch up* Edited November 4 by Rigotz 1 Quote
fergie's ire Posted November 4 Posted November 4 41 minutes ago, US Egg said: Go back to Miami’s offense last year and yesterday’s game was on par statistically. They were a tough out last year. If one is willing to consider that, then it’s not a stretch to say the Bills held their own against a very good offense and that there’s not a whole lot to read into their performance yesterday. I think it's actually on par with the game back in September. Achane was getting over 7 yards a carry and the Dolphins just didn't commit to it. They learned their lesson. Quote
transient Posted November 4 Posted November 4 So am I to assume DVOA doesn’t consider RBs running free untouched beyond 10 yds downfield from the LOS in its algorithm? Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Heavy personnel and a powerful RB with speed, it’s bad news Otherwise I feel like it’s good enough. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted November 4 Posted November 4 1 hour ago, Rubes said: …according to DVOA. I don’t know what DVOA is, and I definitely don’t know what it means, but I do know that I will no longer pay any attention to it. These millennial analytics are getting ridiculous. They're just making stuff up and pretending there's some amazing formula. Quote
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