Cray51 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 11 minutes ago, ngbills said: Decent draft yes. Transformative? Heck look at KC that same year - Pacheco, Karlaftis, McDuffie, Cook, Moore, Chenal, Watson...that is much closer to transformative. I mean, they are both pretty transformative drafts. Mcduffie is a slight > to Bernard Rousseau is a slight > to Karlaftis (MISSED THAT THIS WAS 2021 - Disregard!) Pacheco = Cook Bernard slight > to Chenal Shakir big > to Moore Then you have Araiza who is a starting punter in the league and Elam who looks to be our future CB2 against Watson who is their CB2 and Cook/Williams. I think the Chiefs drafted the best player out of the bunch with McDuffie. However, I think the Bills draft a better set of core starters with Shakir/Bernard/Cook/Benford So not sure why there is a gap for you from Decent to Transformative... Edited 10 hours ago by Cray51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago While no GM is perfect, Beane does a really good job with the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago We need another home run draft this year to keep the pipe line stocked Specifically and hopefully it’s a DE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Cray51 said: Agreed. This is the new core. They will get 4-6 year deals each, and I'd think Beane will let other aging players go to make sure these guys stick around (Knox, Milano, Daquan Jones, Douglas). The one player that will be the "surprise" is Cook. Beane will continue with his running back by committee approach and Cook can go sign for good money somewhere else. I cannot foresee the Bills outright cutting Dawson Knox. I know he makes a lot, but they do value him. Although, I can see them asking him to take a pay cut. The others you mentioned, Jones, Douglas & Milano, I can see being released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 39 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: I cannot foresee the Bills outright cutting Dawson Knox. I know he makes a lot, but they do value him. Although, I can see them asking him to take a pay cut. The others you mentioned, Jones, Douglas & Milano, I can see being released. I believe Douglas if not re-signed will garner a comp pick when he signs elsewhere. Jones has had a tough year and may be near the end. Knox, imo, will be around for his contract. Milano I will have to wait and see on. The FO may give him next year to see what it looks like healthy, not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwriter Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 4 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: Name me one WR in the league who has a better catch percentage as a WR than Shakir this season (93.3%) and career (82.7%) with a minimum of 30 catches. You can't. Potential? He IS an All-Pro RIGHT NOW. Shakir reminds me a lot of Cole Beasley with better hands and elite speed. 22 minutes ago, CNYfan said: I believe Douglas if not re-signed will garner a comp pick when he signs elsewhere. Jones has had a tough year and may be near the end. Knox, imo, will be around for his contract. Milano I will have to wait and see on. The FO may give him next year to see what it looks like healthy, not sure. I hope Douglas is extended, same goes for Cooper and Rousseau too. We also have Benford to think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 45 minutes ago, CNYfan said: I believe Douglas if not re-signed will garner a comp pick when he signs elsewhere. Jones has had a tough year and may be near the end. Knox, imo, will be around for his contract. Milano I will have to wait and see on. The FO may give him next year to see what it looks like healthy, not sure. It could turn out this way too. I don't know what salary cap implications would be in cutting Milano. So, that is a wait-and-see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago It’s a very very good draft. 4 starters and 2 solid reserves is a great return on any draft let alone a draft that wasn’t heavy on premium selections. I know Elam hasn’t had a great time but I think he’s a quality backup and so is Spector. But Benford and Bernard and two high end starters on offense while Shakir and Cook are quality starters on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 14 hours ago, GunnerBill said: In order of priority for me: 1. Benford 2. Rousseau 3. Bernard 4. Shakir 5. Cook I agree that Benford is 1, no lower than 2. And I understand Cook, being at maybe the most devalued position (outside of Special Teams) being last. But i'm surprised to see Shakir so low. Wide Reciever is one of the most important positions to retain in my opinion (especially with our core) and with the skills he's shown, specifically being INCREDIBLY slippery and getting Yards After Catch being extremely good, I think he's at the top of people to retain. I think of the list of 5 - Shakir, Benford, and Rousseau are must retains. Bernard.... I go back and forth on him. There's times he's extremely good. Then there's times where he's not. And then he seems to get banged up a lot, perhaps for being undersized. I'd like to retain him (like everyone on this list) - but I have him outside the Top 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: I agree that Benford is 1, no lower than 2. And I understand Cook, being at maybe the most devalued position (outside of Special Teams) being last. But i'm surprised to see Shakir so low. Wide Reciever is one of the most important positions to retain in my opinion (especially with our core) and with the skills he's shown, specifically being INCREDIBLY slippery and getting Yards After Catch being extremely good, I think he's at the top of people to retain. I think of the list of 5 - Shakir, Benford, and Rousseau are must retains. Bernard.... I go back and forth on him. There's times he's extremely good. Then there's times where he's not. And then he seems to get banged up a lot, perhaps for being undersized. I'd like to retain him (like everyone on this list) - but I have him outside the Top 3. The argument against Shakir is that the WR market is so insane, the money he will be commanding is not going to be "worth" his play as an excellent slot-only guy. And Shakir has been EXCELLENT. He may be up there with the best slots in the game, and he's still quite young. For reference, when Cole Beasley signed with Buffalo in 2019, he was the 38th highest paid WR. He probably wasn't as good as Shakir will be when he's an FA, but that was the money he commanded. He was making $7.25M AAV. The top 10 were all making around $9-$10M more AAV. The 38th highest paid WR in the NFL currently is our own Curtis Samuel for reference. Shakir ain't signing $8M per. The top 23 are all making $12M to $27M more. Khalil is going to dictate top 20 ish money which will push him to around $20M a year imo. And that's right around where I would say they should let him walk. I don't think they will. The WR room will hopefully have another rookie scale guy playing a significant role along with Coleman, and they will use their low contracts to justify paying Shakir as the only true vet producer in the room. Not sure its a good idea, but they will almost certainly pay him unless he asks for ASB money imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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