TheBeaneBandit Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, boyst said: Is he tradeable? 🫣 Was wondering the same thing myself. Someone mentioned something about injury designations can make players not tradable.... I'm not sure if that's true or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 hour ago, boyst said: Is he tradeable? 🫣 Not with his cap hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 15 hours ago, pigpen65 said: The guy sucks. I had no idea till recently he had signed a three year contract. That's crazy. 3 yrs / 24 large...ouch. I wish this organization would be a little more forthright and just come out and say his turf toe is affecting his ability. Just put him on IR for a month, let the toe heal some and move forward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 He's a good player. We have to figure this out, whether that's health or game plan or chemistry with Josh. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snappysnackcakes Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 3 hours ago, NickelCity said: He's a good player. We have to figure this out, whether that's health or game plan or chemistry with Josh. Allen needs to work with these guys a lot in the offseason. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Curtis Samuel should just carry some pom-poms and be a Bills cheerleader . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Cur-tis  Sam-u-el, Pa ra pa pa pum There’s never plays to see, Pa ra pa pa pum 3 years, 24 mill-e-on, Pa ra pa pa pum, Plays worse than Mack Holl-ins, Pa ra pa pa pum, Ra pa pa pum, Ra pa pa pum So to honor him Pa ra pa pa pum Turf Toe comes…   1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 On 11/5/2024 at 3:00 AM, TFBillsfan said: Agree. Similar results when they did that with Diggs. I want to see Samuel on some crossers exploiting a LB or more vertical routes. or how about those quick slants that Josh was throwing to Coleman. Samuel should be able to use his speed to get open on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 On 11/3/2024 at 7:31 PM, Miyagi-Do Karate said: At this point, I am not even sure it is injury related. He seems washed.  I don't have an explanation for Samuel's ineffectiveness but based on the video of his highlights from last year, I highly doubt he's washed.  The 2023 video shows an obviously athletic player with explosive burst.  On 11/4/2024 at 3:40 AM, Pete said: Do we have a snap count on Curtis?  He is invisible.  Place Curtis on IR - we get about the same usage, so not a bad idea.  Add another WR and DT.  Von was ineffective again.  DT is killing Bills D. I’m ***** sick of not being able to stop the run.  I’m talking to you DaQuan and Ed.  I’m ok with trading for Simmons or another DT.  Our first two picks should be DT and WR.  So I don’t mind giving up a one if we get a premium DT like Simmons  This is one of my bookmarks. It comes in handy for fantasy when I'm trying to figure out who's getting playing time:  https://www.footballguys.com/stats/snap-counts/teams?team=BUF&year=2024  12 hours ago, blacklabel said: I maintain that Samuel is just nowhere near 100% right now. He'd be way more involved if he was fully healthy. I think the toe is probably still causing some issues, hard to run, cut, and plant with that type of injury.  I hope he can heal up and be more of a factor down the stretch.  To the bolded, I hope so too. There are still 8 games left which is 47% of the season.  It's not by any means beyond the realm of possibility that Samuel can make a substantial or at least some timely contributions.  I don't mind raising the question about his performance but again in this topic are a lot of people wanting to make final judgements when the season is only at the halfway point.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 43 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said:  I don't have an explanation for Samuel's ineffectiveness but based on the video of his highlights from last year, I highly doubt he's washed.  The 2023 video shows an obviously athletic player with explosive burst.   This is one of my bookmarks. It comes in handy for fantasy when I'm trying to figure out who's getting playing time:  https://www.footballguys.com/stats/snap-counts/teams?team=BUF&year=2024   To the bolded, I hope so too. There are still 8 games left which is 47% of the season.  It's not by any means beyond the realm of possibility that Samuel can make a substantial or at least some timely contributions.  I don't mind raising the question about his performance but again in this topic are a lot of people wanting to make final judgements when the season is only at the halfway point.  can he play in the playoffs...The Bills will make the playoffs as the division winner and host a home playoff game...Do we have the right team to win in the playoffs. That is all what matters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 7 hours ago, ganesh said: or how about those quick slants that Josh was throwing to Coleman. Samuel should be able to use his speed to get open on that. He needs his toe/foot to get healthy first if you want his speed to be used. 4 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:  I don't have an explanation for Samuel's ineffectiveness but based on the video of his highlights from last year, I highly doubt he's washed.  The 2023 video shows an obviously athletic player with explosive burst.    I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. The explanation is he has an injury. If you can’t push off of your foot the way you want how explosive can you really be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 2 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said: He needs his toe/foot to get healthy first if you want his speed to be used. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. The explanation is he has an injury. If you can’t push off of your foot the way you want how explosive can you really be?  Watching the games I think there's more to it than that.  As others have pointed out, there seems to be a disconnect between Samuel and the Bills offense that goes beyond injury.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 12 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Â Watching the games I think there's more to it than that. Â As others have pointed out, there seems to be a disconnect between Samuel and the Bills offense that goes beyond injury. Â On thing I keep thinking is that as a new addition to the offense in the off-season, his acclimation was hampered by the toe injury that he STILL may not be fully healed. My observation is that he is simply not getting many looks from Josh in this offense, which makes me wonder if the missed time in the preseason and lingering affects into the regular season has hampered their ability to develop chemistry and get on the same page. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I’m convinced the only reason he wasn’t released yesterday is we don’t have enough bodies, and McD and Brady must not think of Shavers and crew.  its sad as I had hoped for Samuel, but now its crazy to think I’d rather have Hollins on the field which isn’t saying much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Â Watching the games I think there's more to it than that. Â As others have pointed out, there seems to be a disconnect between Samuel and the Bills offense that goes beyond injury. Â Missed TC time due to injury. Â Missed some games as well. Â If he isnt the motion player and matchup player in the offense he wont have a consistent role. Â Coleman, Cooper, Hollins are outside and Shakir is the slot. Â Early down runs are working so more 12 and 13 sets are working which he isn't a part of. Â Thats really it. Â Some of his chances he hasn't been able to take advantage of. Samuel is as a good a wr 4 or 5 in the league. Â If he can get closer to 100% he will be a factor down the stretch. Â Edited November 6 by Mat68 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie's ire Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I became worried when I learned he was out with turf toe LAST year. Sounds like, instead of being a new injury, it may have just been a case where the toe never healed. Some players get bad turf toe that they never seem to recover from. I worry that a player like Samuel who relies so much on quickness and abrupt cuts might never be right again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 14 hours ago, Sojourner said: Cur-tis  Sam-u-el, Pa ra pa pa pum There’s never plays to see, Pa ra pa pa pum 3 years, 24 mill-e-on, Pa ra pa pa pum, Plays worse than Mack Holl-ins, Pa ra pa pa pum, Ra pa pa pum, Ra pa pa pum So to honor him Pa ra pa pa pum Turf Toe comes…   Its not even Thanksgiving yet! LOL 😆 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, JP51 said: Its not even Thanksgiving yet! LOL 😆 Tell me about it… I had to take out all the Christmas decorations from the basement because the other half has a wonderland for 2+ months.  The outdoor decorations are off limits until December.  I’m bonkers but she isn’t having the whole neighborhood thinking I’m batsh— crazy lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP51 Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 13 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Tell me about it… I had to take out all the Christmas decorations from the basement because the other half has a wonderland for 2+ months.  The outdoor decorations are off limits until December.  I’m bonkers but she isn’t having the whole neighborhood thinking I’m batsh— crazy lol Oh I soooo hear ya LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Just now, JP51 said: Oh I soooo hear ya LOL I sometimes wonder if Clark purposely falls from the roof when decorating 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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