Mister Defense Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) This can be a championship team. But they need some help, more so than some of the other contenders. They must shore up their run defense and at the same time get more pressure on quarterbacks to be a true contender. Seems a little negligent if the Bills do not do this in the next two days. They may really struggle against the best quarterbacks and run games if they don't get some help. The Dolphins' offense had their way with the Bills today. The Bills could not stop the run or get pressure on Tua. Great win today, because they pulled it out, going 7-2. But also because it was a canary in the coal mine, a warning to the Bills' leaders of what they need, right now, to take the next step. Do you agree that this is not a luxury item, but a need? And who is a likely target? Is it a defensive tackle or end? The time is now, I think. Edited November 4 by Mister Defense 1 1 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Bills play light boxes and don’t ever switch even if run on. It’s just how it is. Some teams will gash them. 1 6 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted November 4 Author Posted November 4 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills play light boxes and don’t ever switch even if run on. It’s just how it is. Some teams will gash them. But if they had a dominant type player in the box, a big guy who can take on two blockers?, don't you think that can make a difference? If all goes as planned the Bills may meet the Ravens again in January. Or the Lions in February... 3 2 1 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Unfortunately, 2025 draft or Free Agency. Cavalry isn’t coming. For all the draft assets and FA signings, they’ve yet to land a true, consistent disrupter on the DL. IMO, it doesn’t help that we rarely stunt trying to confuse the OL. Combine that with when they blitz they struggle to get to the QB. Quote
Chugga Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) When he wants to be Clowney is stout in the run game. But he is not a process guy whatsoever and doesn’t help the interior. Edited November 4 by Chugga 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills play light boxes and don’t ever switch even if run on. It’s just how it is. Some teams will gash them. Yup, it has nothing to do with "not being able to stop the run". They simply are willing to give up runs sometimes and believe they will make enough disruptive plays to force 3rd and longs and take advantage of teams that aren't patient enough to keep doing it to prevent deep throws and maintain their two high shells. I mean they just held the Seahawks to 32 yards rushing last week and their RBs combined for 12 carries for 16 yards. Do we really have memories this short? Edited November 4 by Big Turk 3 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Taron said in his press conference they weren't even playing the run. They just didn't want to get beat over the top. Few other teams have the wide receivers to beat them deep. Tua and Miami are a special case. You can't pass rush because the ball gets out so quick and their speed can kill you. When they play Baltimore again they will be healthier. They can also play some 4-3 with Spector. Carter will be back in a few weeks. If they make a trade get a pass rusher because AJE and Miller are terrible. 7 7 1 Quote
Process Posted November 4 Posted November 4 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Bills play light boxes and don’t ever switch even if run on. It’s just how it is. Some teams will gash them. I think they should add someone but yes this is also important. Waddle and Hill combined for 76 yards. Pick your poison. 2 3 Quote
Mister Defense Posted November 4 Author Posted November 4 Just now, Big Turk said: Yup, it has nothing to do with "not being able to stop the run". They simply are willing to give up runs sometimes and believe they will make enough disruptive plays to force 3rd and longs and take advantage of teams that aren't patient enough to keep doing it. I mean they just held the Seahawks to 32 yards rushing last week and their RBs combined for 12 carries for 16 yards. Do we really have memories this short? yes, of course we all remember last week... But we will also remember today for a while and the domination by the Ravens. To me, it does not make sense to just close our eyes and hope for the best. Not what teams like KC do. And I think that is true of Beane and the Bills too. Quote
Maine-iac Posted November 4 Posted November 4 Has Tyreek had 100 yard game against us since he joined Miami? We've picked our poison. Mind you I think they'll have a game plan for Baltimore if we see them again. 2 Quote
Mister Defense Posted November 4 Author Posted November 4 Just now, Maine-iac said: Has Tyreek had 100 yard game against us since he joined Miami? We've picked our poison. Mind you I think they'll have a game plan for Baltimore if we see them again. Yes, I agree with you and most are saying so far, especially this point, but it seems the Bills finally must get that one disruptive guy on the D-Line who can break an offense. It will help eliminate this weakness, to some degree, even on days like this when they focus on stopping the big pass plays. If the Bills were to make a move, who could it be? Quote
TBBills Fan Posted November 4 Posted November 4 11 minutes ago, Governor said: George the animal Steele I'd prefer Yokozuna to clog the middle. 2 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: yes, of course we all remember last week... But we will also remember today for a while and the domination by the Ravens. To me, it does not make sense to just close our eyes and hope for the best. Not what teams like KC do. And I think that is true of Beane and the Bills too. So would you rather then make more stops in the run game and give up 80 yard TDs thru the air? They are still working thru some things on D and I don't think they have their ideal pieces in place right now to run it the way they would prefer. All in all they are doing pretty well outside a few games. They are still top 7 or 8 in terms of scoring defense. I would expect them to continue to improve as the year goes on, they have a lot new pieces on D. Edited November 4 by Big Turk 2 1 Quote
Dick_Cheney Posted November 4 Posted November 4 (edited) If somehow we end up playing Baltimore again in the postseason and this is the same roster we carry into the playoffs, they will destroy us. The run defense has been exposed as a massive liability. Edited November 4 by Dick_Cheney 2 6 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted November 4 Posted November 4 the best 1 tech available it seems is Davon Godchaux. He is the prototypical 1 tech, big pile of dirt in a trash can to play the run. I have read sf is in talks with New England for him from Dianna Russini and from a pats website they had him going to Minnesota for a reunion with Brian Flores. Seems like compensation is a fifth. I just dont think they are going to trade a pick for a 1 tech. 2 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted November 4 Author Posted November 4 Just now, Dick_Cheney said: If somehow we end up playing Baltimore again in the postseason and this is the same roster we carry into the playoffs, they will destroy us. The run defense has been exposed as a massive liability. Overall, I agree. That is why I say they have to get someone, or we will be lamenting that they did not do so this season. Great teams do that, they don't just stand pat and hope for the best. 1 Quote
Simon Posted November 4 Posted November 4 4 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: If somehow we end up playing Baltimore again in the postseason and this is the same roster we carry into the playoffs, they will destroy us. The run defense has been exposed as a massive liability. If we have Baylon Spector, Cam Lewis, Dorian Williams and Damar Hamlin all starting again, yes they probably will. 1 Quote
Mister Defense Posted November 4 Author Posted November 4 18 minutes ago, Chugga said: When he wants to be Clowney is stout in the run game. But he is not a process guy whatsoever and doesn’t help the interior. Well, I think he is worth a shot. Seems to improve defenses when he shows up, surprised that the Ravens let him go. Process smoshess, time to win it all. 1 minute ago, MikePJ76 said: the best 1 tech available it seems is Davon Godchaux. He is the prototypical 1 tech, big pile of dirt in a trash can to play the run. I have read sf is in talks with New England for him from Dianna Russini and from a pats website they had him going to Minnesota for a reunion with Brian Flores. Seems like compensation is a fifth. I just dont think they are going to trade a pick for a 1 tech. A 5th! They should consider him. It would be great to have an option like that in this team, as they do not now. Quote
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