SoonerBillsFan Posted Sunday at 10:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:27 PM Just now, somnus00 said: When you take a small school CB in the 6th, you don't expect him to before an elite corner, either. Benford is locking dudes down. That doesn't make Elam a bad CB. It makes him a waste of a 1st round pick. You can't afford as an organization to have 1 st rounder get outplayed by a 6th in the same draft. Let alone sit the bench. Why is this so hard to understand? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted Sunday at 10:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:28 PM 46 minutes ago, Simon said: He just played a whole game the first time one of those players were injured Didn't Benford miss the last Miami game too? I know this isn't the first games he's missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted Sunday at 10:28 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:28 PM I was told this week that he stinks, is not real depth and the coaches will never play him. People keep trying to throw him into trade deals for absolutely no reason other than they do not understand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted Sunday at 10:30 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:30 PM 2 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: Didn't Benford miss the last Miami game too? I know this isn't the first games he's missed. It was Taron that missed the other Miami game. 54 minutes ago, Einstein said: He barely plays even when one of those players are injured. He just ain’t that good. Don’t dare bash Elam, some around here living in denial that he was over drafted and have a dream he’s going to redeem himself at some point. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted Sunday at 10:33 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:33 PM (edited) 54 minutes ago, Simon said: I don't think you're wrong that it would be tricky for him, but the fact that the coaches won't even let him really try is a bit odd to me. I think they are using him situationally. He's their man coverage specialist so to speak. He keeps playing decent I think he will see more and more field time as the 6th DB I also think they plan on replacing rasul with Elam next year Edit- wonder if we see him on the field again against KC to play on Worthy Edited Sunday at 10:33 PM by TBBills Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwriter Posted Sunday at 10:37 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:37 PM 1 hour ago, st pete gogolak said: The guy is a mystery wrapped in a riddle wrapped in an enigma. Is he in the doghouse for some reason? Yet, when he plays he plays well (other than last year against JAX in London) and he makes big plays. Weirdest situation ever. I think Rasul and Benford are just THAT good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted Sunday at 10:38 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:38 PM Elam is a man cover CB. That's what he played in college. McD's use a lot of zone and even pattern recognition so one side of the D may morph to fit the patterms being run. It's possible that Elam has trouble with the more complex coverages. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lafromboise Posted Sunday at 10:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:39 PM 20 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Huh? Smoot and Benford were running with him as soon as he got up…? Edit: Holy moly, just watched the replay of the full broadcast. That is very weird. Wtf. There isn’t anyone with him. Yeah it felt like he was the runt of the team. Maybe he's not very social idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted Sunday at 10:40 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:40 PM A miss by Beane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted Sunday at 10:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:42 PM Maybe some team would trade a package of Elam, Edwards, and Samuels for a third rounder. One can only dream... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM 1 minute ago, Lafromboise said: Yeah it felt like he was the runt of the team. Maybe he's not very social idk. Still, you’d think they’d be all for their teammate coming up with that play given him never seeing the field, being thrust into the role and making a play. I saw Rasul pulling him up and running initially but never paid much attention after. Again, watching that replay it’s exactly like you said; awkward. Very. No one going with him, not even Douglas who picked him up and was directing him where to go… dude just bailed and went to the sideline. Not a single player went in that direction. All went to the sideline until right at the end when, and I might be wrong, it looked like the only ones coming to celebrate with him were Jamarcus Ingram (46) and Von (40). Whether a teammate is social or not shouldn’t be a reason to completely disregard the play that transpired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:48 PM 5 minutes ago, Old Coot said: Elam is a man cover CB. That's what he played in college. McD's use a lot of zone and even pattern recognition so one side of the D may morph to fit the patterms being run. It's possible that Elam has trouble with the more complex coverages. Just my take but Elam has caught up with the coverages. That's why he's on the field whenver we have an injury to Benford or Douglas. What he has been shaky in from time to time is run support or tackling. I think that too will come to him with work. He does have a knack for getting the ball from the other team and he certainly has all the physical tools. People want to label him good or bad because he's not a starter but was a 1st round pick but honestly I'd currently label him a good problem to have. We certainly ran a lot more man coverage today than I feel like I've seen before. The all22 will be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM For the record - Elam did not get "burned" on the long Hill completion. He played it pretty well - it was just a great throw and catch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted Sunday at 11:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:01 PM Benford is just a lot better. And he is a great tackler for a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted Sunday at 11:13 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:13 PM Bills win with a 61 yard FG, and we quickly shift from Bass to Elam. Overall, thought he played a solid game. No penalties, gave up one play to Hill but was in solid position. Perfect throw from Tua. Recovered a fumble. Hill and Waddle were minimized today. Elam did what was asked of him and it’s great to have depth. We might want to shift our attention to the DL and LB if we’re trying to find something to pick at. Bills are 7-2, have a strangle hold on the AFCE, swept the MIA series and are currently the #2 seed. Enjoy the ride BillsMafia! 4 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted Sunday at 11:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:17 PM 35 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: A miss by Beane Do what I do. …Just pretend Benford and Elam were picked in the opposite draft positions .. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted Sunday at 11:18 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:18 PM 1 hour ago, Malazan said: It's not that weird. He's playing behind two really, really good players. This. Like nothing more needs to be said 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st pete gogolak Posted Sunday at 11:19 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 11:19 PM 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: This. Like nothing more needs to be said So do you let Douglas walk and pencil in Elam as a starter next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted Sunday at 11:22 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:22 PM There is no mystery, riddle, or enigma. He isn't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted Sunday at 11:22 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:22 PM 2 minutes ago, st pete gogolak said: So do you let Douglas walk and pencil in Elam as a starter next year? Didn’t we just extend Douglas 2 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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