Jordan Poyer needs to be suspended

[BananaB]

It’s football. He plays physical, I always liked that about him. He can’t be on target all the time. 

[Savage]

On 11/3/2024 at 4:09 PM, JDubya76 said:

No but his pocket will be lighter

So a guy making 5 mil per year, more or less, not really sure, will be fined 30k.

 

big deal.

 

doesn’t mean crap.

 

 

 

 

 

[Kwai San]

I used to love Po.  AT this point Po, his bat sheet cray cray skank ho of a wife and his looney brother can all go to hell in a handbasket.

Edited November 8 by Kwai San

[JDubya76]

On 11/5/2024 at 6:56 PM, Savage said:

So a guy making 5 mil per year, more or less, not really sure, will be fined 30k.

 

big deal.

 

doesn’t mean crap.

 

 

 

 

 

Do you want to exacerbate your faux outrage further? It probably won’t be $30k.

[BillsShredder83]

On 11/5/2024 at 9:35 AM, Bermuda Triangle said:

LOL, someone is certainly all up in their feels...

 

Poyer is NOT a Wall of Famer.  Good player here, until 2022, but he was downright bad - a liability, even - in 2023.  

 

His hit on Coleman was cheap and dirty, same as his hit on Shakir in Week 2.  Maybe make a play on the ball, instead of being two steps too late, and delivering hits to the head?

Absolute denial if you think Poyer isnt a future wall of famer.  Dude was piece #1 and spearhead of a dramatic culture change, that has lead to more wins than ever before.  If you think him returning on a team friendly 1 year deal, at 32 years old, and having a down year, you're insane or wilfully ignorant.  Poyer/Hyde are the first 2 new names up in the new stadium, you being upset that he signed a sundowner deal in teal will have 0 implication on what he did on the field, locker room, and community of Buffalo.  Gutless, short sighted take.

[Bermuda Triangle]

8 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Absolute denial if you think Poyer isnt a future wall of famer.  Dude was piece #1 and spearhead of a dramatic culture change, that has lead to more wins than ever before.  If you think him returning on a team friendly 1 year deal, at 32 years old, and having a down year, you're insane or wilfully ignorant.  Poyer/Hyde are the first 2 new names up in the new stadium, you being upset that he signed a sundowner deal in teal will have 0 implication on what he did on the field, locker room, and community of Buffalo.  Gutless, short sighted take.

Jeremiah, is that you?  Sorry to have upset you.

[Goin Breakdown]

How about a fine at least. Any word on that. One dude gets ejected for the same style hit and Poyer gets nothing?  Maybe I missed it. 

[mjt328]

Loved Jordan Poyer while he was here.

 

Since he left, I'm sensing some sour grapes towards the Bills organization though.  Some players don't seem to understand the business-side of things, and why our team needed to move on.  Part of me gets it... a player sacrifices his health to help a team win, then gets no loyalty in contract negotiations.  Part of me doesn't... same player still becomes a millionaire, and the front office has an obligation to make the best decisions for the Buffalo Bills team.

 

I doubt it's a coincidence that Poyer made very questionable hits on Khalil Shakir in the first game, and then again with Keon Coleman.  My hope is that he's just extra motivated to make a big play against his old team.  Unfortunately, it comes across to many fans as a bitter ex getting dirty for revenge.

 

[Special K]

2 hours ago, mjt328 said:

Loved Jordan Poyer while he was here.

 

Since he left, I'm sensing some sour grapes towards the Bills organization though.  Some players don't seem to understand the business-side of things, and why our team needed to move on.  Part of me gets it... a player sacrifices his health to help a team win, then gets no loyalty in contract negotiations.  Part of me doesn't... same player still becomes a millionaire, and the front office has an obligation to make the best decisions for the Buffalo Bills team.

 

I doubt it's a coincidence that Poyer made very questionable hits on Khalil Shakir in the first game, and then again with Keon Coleman.  My hope is that he's just extra motivated to make a big play against his old team.  Unfortunately, it comes across to many fans as a bitter ex getting dirty for revenge.

 

 

I get that his job on that play was to separate the man from the ball, however there were safer and cleaner ways to do it than the way he chose to do it.

 

Poyer has been in the league long enough......he knows the rules and he chose to break them in a very dangerous way. 

 

There has to be a reason why he chose to do this in both games vs. the Bills, and the simplest explanation is that he has bad blood towards the organization, but there is no excuse for putting the health of two players that have nothing to do with his situation at risk just to prove his selfish point, IMO.

[Matt_In_NH]

On 11/5/2024 at 6:56 PM, Savage said:

So a guy making 5 mil per year, more or less, not really sure, will be fined 30k.

 

big deal.

 

doesn’t mean crap.

 

 

 

 

 

It did not intentionally hit him in the head.  If you play safety in the NFL you play aggressive and you have to live with 15 yard penalties sometimes when the inevitable happens.  The penalties and fines are part of being an NFL defender.

[Spiderweb]

19 hours ago, mjt328 said:

Loved Jordan Poyer while he was here.

 

Since he left, I'm sensing some sour grapes towards the Bills organization though.  Some players don't seem to understand the business-side of things, and why our team needed to move on.  Part of me gets it... a player sacrifices his health to help a team win, then gets no loyalty in contract negotiations.  Part of me doesn't... same player still becomes a millionaire, and the front office has an obligation to make the best decisions for the Buffalo Bills team.

 

I doubt it's a coincidence that Poyer made very questionable hits on Khalil Shakir in the first game, and then again with Keon Coleman.  My hope is that he's just extra motivated to make a big play against his old team.  Unfortunately, it comes across to many fans as a bitter ex getting dirty for revenge.

 

PO was very good for us, but his last two years weren't. Two years ago he was hurt most of the year and did miss playing time. Last year it was clear father time has caught up with him. He should have retired.

[mjt328]

21 hours ago, Special K said:

I get that his job on that play was to separate the man from the ball, however there were safer and cleaner ways to do it than the way he chose to do it.

 

Poyer has been in the league long enough......he knows the rules and he chose to break them in a very dangerous way. 

 

There has to be a reason why he chose to do this in both games vs. the Bills, and the simplest explanation is that he has bad blood towards the organization, but there is no excuse for putting the health of two players that have nothing to do with his situation at risk just to prove his selfish point, IMO.

 

Agree he's got bad blood towards the Bills organization.

Not sure that means he was aiming for the head and trying to hurt our players, or just extra motivated to make a huge play.  Hopefully it was the latter.

 

Playing safety in the NFL has to be tough.  Coleman was probably going to catch that pass if he didn't make a huge hit, and that likely meant the Bills were going to be in field goal position to win the game.  

[Mr. WEO]

23 hours ago, mjt328 said:

 

Agree he's got bad blood towards the Bills organization.

Not sure that means he was aiming for the head and trying to hurt our players, or just extra motivated to make a huge play.  Hopefully it was the latter.

 

Playing safety in the NFL has to be tough.  Coleman was probably going to catch that pass if he didn't make a huge hit, and that likely meant the Bills were going to be in field goal position to win the game.  

 

why bad blood?  His career took off only after being paired with a far better Safety.  Bills kept him around a year too long, he shouldn't be harboring bad blood, for a team that made his career.  Now he's a cheap shot artist as he is washed.

[TurfToeJam]

3 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

why bad blood?  His career took off only after being paired with a far better Safety.  Bills kept him around a year too long, he shouldn't be harboring bad blood, for a team that made his career.  Now he's a cheap shot artist as he is washed.

 

Poyer slowed down and was time for him to move on.

 

But I don't quite understand all the talk about how Hyde was so much better than poyer.  Granted, different positions, but stats paint a different picture.

 

 From ESPN....

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry image quality sucks.  Hyde left/ Poyer right (obviously)

 

Edited November 9 by TurfToeJam

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

On 11/8/2024 at 11:10 AM, mjt328 said:

 

Agree he's got bad blood towards the Bills organization.

Not sure that means he was aiming for the head and trying to hurt our players, or just extra motivated to make a huge play.  Hopefully it was the latter.

 

Playing safety in the NFL has to be tough.  Coleman was probably going to catch that pass if he didn't make a huge hit, and that likely meant the Bills were going to be in field goal position to win the game.  

 

So here's a frame of Poyer about 12 to 15 inches asway before he hits Coleman, likely as he claimed would have resulted in a hit to his chest.  But then Coleman came down and even though one foot was already on the ground, his upper body dropped a good foot and now resulting in Poyer hitting him in the head.

 

Coleman certainly didn't deliberately lower his head  or even thought about lowering his head, but that was the result, the head dropped.  Could you argue Poyer should have anticipated his head lowering, in that split second, that would be hard to think about and adjust for that.

 

It was somewhat similar to the play earlier in the game where the Bills player got called for a hit to the head and even the announcers were saying how the receiver lowered his head, but the call typically always goes against the defensive player.

 

[todd]

Poyer's feed were off the ground when he hit him. He launched with his feet off the ground. I bet if he hadn't done that and made similar contact, it wouldn't have been a penalty. Poyer's a pro - he should know that and recognize he messed up.

[Doc Brown]

NFL should fine him the exact amount of what he would've paid in state taxes if he played for the Bills this year.

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, TurfToeJam said:

 

Poyer slowed down and was time for him to move on.

 

But I don't quite understand all the talk about how Hyde was so much better than poyer.  Granted, different positions, but stats paint a different picture.

 

 From ESPN....

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry image quality sucks.  Hyde left/ Poyer right (obviously)

 

Poyer was a great pile jumper.  Also lots of tackles after big gains.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

 

[vincec]

He purely head butted him. He didn’t even try to use his arms.