GunnerBill Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 25 minutes ago, Motorin' said: When I first realized his shin was down before the knee, it was hard to watch exactly when the shin went down and where the ball was at the same time. So I'm guessing the realization that he was down before the knee touched was the impetus for the challenge. I didn't think he was ever going to win but the Dolphins were going quick and because it was a 4th down it was worth the flag. I'd have been dead against it if it was 3rd and 4 cos if he was short it was an inch or two and they make 4th and inches. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 26 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: Hated Marino, yes i appreciated his greatness but still didn't like the man. Tua on the other hand i just really like perhaps if he was beating us it would change, but he is such a stand up guy, a son you would be proud of kinda dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Very gutsy win by the Bills yesterday. I knew Miami would come out swinging and they played perhaps as well as they can play. Still, the game was only close because of a couple of horrible calls and the Coleman gaffe. The back-to-back holds on Dawkins and O’Torrence were atrocious. Unbelievable moment for Bass and the bottom line is that they found a way to get it done. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Josh Allen 8-0 at the Ralph against the Dolphins.. That is a statement record. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, eball said: Very gutsy win by the Bills yesterday. I knew Miami would come out swinging and they played perhaps as well as they can play. Still, the game was only close because of a couple of horrible calls and the Coleman gaffe. The back-to-back holds on Dawkins and O’Torrence were atrocious. Unbelievable moment for Bass and the bottom line is that they found a way to get it done. Bills were bailed out on a 3rd down holding / DPi call to get into red zone to score td. And also bailed out w poyer flag for gw fg. I agree OL holding calls were phantom. But looking at it objectively - the amount of impactful flags leading to points was a wash for both times only thing that was in their control was Coleman drop for int. That play can’t happen. Ever . Especially from a guy that can’t seperate / run past guys. He HAS to be able to cacth balls sure hands on quick hitters over the middle Edited November 4 by balln 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 Just now, balln said: And also bailed out w poyer flag for gw fg. What??? Clearly a dirty play, and DPI could have been called as well!!! That’s not being “bailed out” because Josh put a perfect ball out there and Poyer had to cheat to break it up. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 2 minutes ago, eball said: What??? Clearly a dirty play, and DPI could have been called as well!!! That’s not being “bailed out” because Josh put a perfect ball out there and Poyer had to cheat to break it up. Relying on 3rd down conversions by penalty is not somewhere I want to live in. I’m not arguing the merits of penalty. Objectively- a flag is a flag - counts. Theres no guarantee Coleman catches that anyway. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 3 hours ago, ganesh said: The Dolphins had a 3+ game lead over the Bills last season and were a shoo-in as division winners. The Bills won rest of their games, while the Dolphins dropped three and then the Bills were able to go and finish them on the road to win the division. there is still 8 games/9 weeks for the Buffalo Bills and anything can still happen during that time. Go Bills !!! Given the current state of the division/tiebreakers 9 wins very likely wins the division for the bills rather comfortably. The jets need to sweep those dolphins vs jets matchups and beat us in the rematch and then you’d need more than a 2023 dolphins level collapse from us still on top of that this would be close to 3 times as ridiculous as the dolphins slide down the standings last year lol. If we beat the colts it’s all but over 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) I think we need to take a hard look at this team. They’re closer to a 10-7 team than a 14-3 team. Last week they had two freak clown show errors by sea O in red zone. And then Allen fumbles the ball forward 20 yards on 3rd down. And the. Again relies on a RTP to convert a 3rd down they didn’t convert on their own…. just gonna stay more level headed about this team. Their offense is super boom or bust. And I do not. Trust the coaches Edited November 4 by balln 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 2 minutes ago, balln said: Relying on 3rd down conversions by penalty is not somewhere I want to live in. I’m not arguing the merits of penalty. Objectively- a flag is a flag - counts. Theres no guarantee Coleman catches that anyway. Then it's not a bail out like you are saying. A penalty is a penalty. 9 minutes ago, balln said: Bills were bailed out on a 3rd down holding / DPi call to get into red zone to score td. And also bailed out w poyer flag for gw fg. I agree OL holding calls were phantom. But looking at it objectively - the amount of impactful flags leading to points was a wash for both times only thing that was in their control was Coleman drop for int. That play can’t happen. Ever . Especially from a guy that can’t seperate / run past guys. He HAS to be able to cacth balls sure hands on quick hitters over the middle Who was bailed out on this play? 3 minutes ago, balln said: I think we need to take a hard look at this team. They’re closer to a 10-7 team than a 14-3 team. Last week they had two freak clown show errors by sea O in red zone. And then Allen fumbles the ball forward 20 yards on 3rd down. And the. Again relies on a RTP to convert a 3rd down they didn’t convert on their own…. We were up 31-3 by the end of the 3rd quarter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) 8 minutes ago, balln said: I think we need to take a hard look at this team. They’re closer to a 10-7 team than a 14-3 team. Last week they had two freak clown show errors by sea O in red zone. And then Allen fumbles the ball forward 20 yards on 3rd down. And the. Again relies on a RTP to convert a 3rd down they didn’t convert on their own…. This post is pretty much the main indicator of what separates an overly negative fan from a realistic fan with a negative outlook to me. The opponents were not the only team getting hit by unlucky errors in those games lol if you correct all the Seahawks bad luck and none of the bills (which is straight up illogical btw), the bills still win that game 🤣 And in the dolphins game, you’re gonna take the poyer play away but not acknowledge a ball clanked off Keon’s body straight into the air for an INT and we had 4 points stolen by straight up phantom calls? Luck adjusting favors the bills in that game Edited November 4 by Generic_Bills_Fan 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 16 hours ago, sven233 said: Not gonna lie...... As much crap as I give Bass, most of it rightly deserved, I have a couple tears in my eyes because of how happy I am for him. I love the win..... But man, I am so happy for the person after all he's gone through. Hopefully, this gets him his swagger back. GO BILLS! I also almost got emotional after he hit that kick. That usually never happens to me much after wins. But that one hit differently and like you said, it's because of everything he has been through leading up to it 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: Then it's not a bail out like you are saying. A penalty is a penalty. Ok I’ll word it easier for everyone. Not gaining the first down on 3rd down. But obtaining first down via penalty. I’m not arguing was or was it not a penalty. I’ve seen similar plays called. And not called. In every game. Every week. Similar hit in Detroit game. And the nfl called in to eject the player. It’s so subjective and a hot mess. Totally different topic. i want the offense to look crisper and Allen to dissect teams with bad D on the ropes in the last two mins of first and second half. But didn’t happen. On to next week 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 It’s astonishing Josh has only lost to the Dolphins twice thus far in his career. The first loss could have/should have been a victory if Charles Clay adjusts and comes back to the ball in the EZ for a TD. The second loss was the bizarre heat game. Josh had McKenzie on an easy 4th and goal TD and uncharacteristically short armed it into the ground. On to Indy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 20 minutes ago, eball said: Very gutsy win by the Bills yesterday. I knew Miami would come out swinging and they played perhaps as well as they can play. Still, the game was only close because of a couple of horrible calls and the Coleman gaffe. The back-to-back holds on Dawkins and O’Torrence were atrocious. Unbelievable moment for Bass and the bottom line is that they found a way to get it done. Add in the Personal Foul on Rapp in the 1st quarter when it was the ball carrier that hit with his helmet. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 3 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: This post is pretty much the main indicator of what separates an overly negative fan from a realistic fan with a negative outlook to me. The opponents were not the only team getting hit by unlucky errors in those games lol if you correct all the Seahawks bad luck and none of the bills (which is straight up illogical btw), the bills still win that game 🤣 I don’t know what you mean exactly in your argument. I appreciate your opinion. You realize Allen dropping the ball uncontested. And kicking it accidentally forward for a first down and they go on to score a td - is different then the sea center snapping the ball 30 yards backwards on the goal line? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 9 minutes ago, balln said: I think we need to take a hard look at this team. They’re closer to a 10-7 team than a 14-3 team. Last week they had two freak clown show errors by sea O in red zone. And then Allen fumbles the ball forward 20 yards on 3rd down. And the. Again relies on a RTP to convert a 3rd down they didn’t convert on their own…. just gonna stay more level headed about this team. Their offense is super boom or bust. And I do not. Trust the coaches If you went by your math, then the Kansas City Chiefs should be 1-6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 1 minute ago, balln said: Ok I’ll word it easier for everyone. Not gaining the first down on 3rd down. But obtaining first down via penalty. I’m not arguing was or was it not a penalty. I’ve seen similar plays called. And not called. In every game. Every week. Similar hit in Detroit game. And the nfl called in to eject the player. It’s so subjective and a hot mess. Totally different topic. i want the offense to look crisper and Allen to dissect teams with bad D on the ropes in the last two mins of first and second half. But didn’t happen. On to next week We are top 5 in the NFL in scoring. This is a bizarre argument you are making. You agreed that it's a penalty and the call was right. We can't control that. It's not guarantee Coleman catches that like it's not a guarantee the Seahawks score at the goaline last week with their blunders but you sound like you're making that assumption. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePJ76 Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 yet another angle of the kick 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted November 4 Share Posted November 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, balln said: I don’t know what you mean exactly in your argument. I appreciate your opinion. You realize Allen dropping the ball uncontested. And kicking it accidentally forward for a first down and they go on to score a td - is different then the sea center snapping the ball 30 yards backwards on the goal line? There was nothing unclear in the argument lol you are saying ONLY the opponents get unlucky to support this opinion that the bills aren’t that good. We had a quick slant where a receiver fell down that went for an INT in that Seahawks game but we’re gonna retroactively correct all the Seahawks bad luck and none of the bills? And on top of that we won the game by 21 😂 so even if you correct just the Seahawks mistakes they still lose Bad bills luck in the dolphins game is the only thing that made it a game so I just entirely disagree with your entire premise Edited November 4 by Generic_Bills_Fan 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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