Logic Posted November 1 Posted November 1 (edited) I didn't see this video posted yet, and I thought it maybe deserved its own thread because it's pretty impressive. Bills home offense is scoring 38.3 PPG (1st in the league), which would be a Bills record. Josh also has the #1 ranked QBR and #1 ranked TD/TO ratio in the league at home this year. Aside from their elite offensive production at home, Orlovsky talks about one of the things that has helped them find success this year: playing with a sixth o-lineman. The Bills have the most rushes with six offensive linemen in the league this year, and have produced the highest yards per rush and yards per play in the league out of this formation. As Orlovsky mentions, it's frankly kind of amazing that more teams don't do this more often, but credit to Brady for effectively utilizing it. Edited November 1 by Logic 7 2 4 Quote
Blackbeard Posted November 1 Posted November 1 I have a feeling about this "down" year. 5 1 2 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 1 Posted November 1 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: I have a feeling about this "down" year. I...got a feeling...that Buffalo is going to the... Edited November 1 by Big Turk 5 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 15 minutes ago, Logic said: I didn't see this video posted yet, and I thought it maybe deserved its own thread because it's pretty impressive. Bills home offense is scoring 38.3 PPG (1st in the league), which would be a Bills record. Josh also has the #1 ranked QBR and #1 ranked TD/TO ratio in the league at home this year. Aside from their elite offensive production at home, Orlovsky talks about one of the things that has helped them find success this year: playing with a sixth o-lineman. The Bills have the most rushes with six offensive linemen in the league this year, and have produced the highest yards per rush and yards per play in the league out of this formation. As Orlovsky mentions, it's frankly kind of amazing that more teams don't do this more often, but credit to Brady for effectively utilizing it. Thanks for this. So, it means the Bills need to get it done on the road, too. I'd like to see the number of times the Bills have gotten penalized when they've had six offensive linemen on the field. Seems like they've gotten a lot - false starts, uncovered tackles and covered eligible receivers. Spencer Brown is second most penalized in the league among offensive linemen. Dion Dawkins is 7th. On the other hand, if you're scoring a lot of points, penalties don't seem to be a problem. 1 2 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 1 Posted November 1 8 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I...got a feeling...that Buffalo is going to the... If we spank the Chiefs in a couple weeks, book our tickets to New Orleans. 1 2 Quote
Big Turk Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 minute ago, strive_for_five_guy said: If we spank the Chiefs in a couple weeks, book our tickets to New Orleans. I'd rather lose to them and then beat them in the playoffs...the reverse of what we have done the previous multiple years 😂 2 4 2 Quote
Allen2Moulds Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: I'd rather lose to them and then beat them in the playoffs...the reverse of what we have done the previous multiple years 😂 I prefer to beat them both times. 3 3 6 2 4 Quote
RiotAct Posted November 1 Posted November 1 15 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I...got a feeling...that Buffalo is going to the... … playoffs? 2 Quote
Logic Posted November 1 Author Posted November 1 29 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: Thanks for this. So, it means the Bills need to get it done on the road, too. I'd like to see the number of times the Bills have gotten penalized when they've had six offensive linemen on the field. Seems like they've gotten a lot - false starts, uncovered tackles and covered eligible receivers. Spencer Brown is second most penalized in the league among offensive linemen. Dion Dawkins is 7th. On the other hand, if you're scoring a lot of points, penalties don't seem to be a problem. To that last point, I can't ever remember seeing a team overcome offensive penalties as easily and as repeatedly as the Bills did against Seattle last Sunday. It was drive killing penalty after drive killing penalty, only...they DIDN'T kill the drives. The offense just easily overcame them. Granted, that's not always the case. I don't know how to verify this statistically, but I believe some of the league's best teams are often some of the most penalized. Or at the very least, that high penalty rates do not meaningfully correlate to teams being bad. Of course, that means diddly squat to Sean McDermott, who loathes penalties and sloppy play. Still...1st and 15 somehow seems less daunting when you have #17 under center. 1 4 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 1 Posted November 1 I hope its 68 this week, but McDermott will never do that. I say if you can't stop us, tough *****. 2 Quote
Simon Posted November 1 Posted November 1 8 minutes ago, Logic said: To that last point, I can't ever remember seeing a team overcome offensive penalties as easily and as repeatedly as the Bills did against Seattle last Sunday. It was drive killing penalty after drive killing penalty, only...they DIDN'T kill the drives. The offense just easily overcame them. Granted, that's not always the case. It was unbelievable. The OLine was seemingly trying to murder every drive in its infancy and Josh Allen was having none of it. And he did it patiently, rpeatedly turning 1st/20 or 2nd/15 into a manageable 3rd/6 then converting with no problem. Not quite as mind-blowing as a couple years ago when he was regularly turning 3rd/14s into 50/50 propositions (nobody has ever seen anything like that before or since) but really impressive nonetheless. He's approaching that point again where I could not care less about 3rd downs. As for the 6th man up front, I'm liking that too. But I am not entirely convinced that Alec Anderson is their best option for that role. 1 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted November 1 Posted November 1 58 minutes ago, Logic said: I didn't see this video posted yet, and I thought it maybe deserved its own thread because it's pretty impressive. Bills home offense is scoring 38.3 PPG (1st in the league), which would be a Bills record. Josh also has the #1 ranked QBR and #1 ranked TD/TO ratio in the league at home this year. Aside from their elite offensive production at home, Orlovsky talks about one of the things that has helped them find success this year: playing with a sixth o-lineman. The Bills have the most rushes with six offensive linemen in the league this year, and have produced the highest yards per rush and yards per play in the league out of this formation. As Orlovsky mentions, it's frankly kind of amazing that more teams don't do this more often, but credit to Brady for effectively utilizing it. No. More teams should NOT be doing this, Just us Dammit 1 4 Quote
90sBills Posted November 1 Posted November 1 38 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: If we spank the Chiefs in a couple weeks, book our tickets to New Orleans. Giving recent history Bills beating KC in the regular season means the opposite. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted November 1 Posted November 1 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Logic said: To that last point, I can't ever remember seeing a team overcome offensive penalties as easily and as repeatedly as the Bills did against Seattle last Sunday. It was drive killing penalty after drive killing penalty, only...they DIDN'T kill the drives. The offense just easily overcame them. Granted, that's not always the case. I don't know how to verify this statistically, but I believe some of the league's best teams are often some of the most penalized. Or at the very least, that high penalty rates do not meaningfully correlate to teams being bad. Of course, that means diddly squat to Sean McDermott, who loathes penalties and sloppy play. Still...1st and 15 somehow seems less daunting when you have #17 under center. I think we had 4 on one possession on one of the 90 yard drives? A hold on Dawkins, a hold on Brown, a hold on Alec Anderson and a false start on Brown. Edited November 1 by Royale with Cheese 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 1 Posted November 1 29 minutes ago, 90sBills said: Giving recent history Bills beating KC in the regular season means the opposite. I truly think this year’s Bills team in built differently though, while the Chiefs are somewhat of a paper tiger, just squeaking by teams to remain undefeated. We barely lost to them in the playoffs last year with a depleted defense and incomplete offense. We spank them in a couple weeks, it will confirm my belief that this teams ceiling is well above the current Chiefs team. 1 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 hour ago, Logic said: To that last point, I can't ever remember seeing a team overcome offensive penalties as easily and as repeatedly as the Bills did against Seattle last Sunday. It was drive killing penalty after drive killing penalty, only...they DIDN'T kill the drives. The offense just easily overcame them. Granted, that's not always the case. I don't know how to verify this statistically, but I believe some of the league's best teams are often some of the most penalized. Or at the very least, that high penalty rates do not meaningfully correlate to teams being bad. Of course, that means diddly squat to Sean McDermott, who loathes penalties and sloppy play. Still...1st and 15 somehow seems less daunting when you have #17 under center. I was at the game, and I remember thinking something like that at the time. It felt like the Bills always had an answer. "If we can't go here, we'll go there." The defense had that same feeling. "We'll play you tough, we'll play you tough, and if you can get to the ten, we're going to execute so well that you won't get the touchdown." It felt like a team, not just a collection of stars. Among the best teams, that's the feeling they're all trying to develop. Bills seem to have it. We'll see what happens on Sunday. 2 1 Quote
skibum Posted November 1 Posted November 1 That's cool to see - I can't remember the last time a Bills team did something innovative that gave them a real advantage. Probably have to be the hurry-up of the 90's. I followed the Seattle game for a bit on NFL Gamecenter, and I kept seeing plays where Alec Anderson reported as eligible. I remember thinking, "what the heck are they doing?", and now I know. Quote
MJS Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 hour ago, Logic said: Of course, that means diddly squat to Sean McDermott, who loathes penalties and sloppy play. Still...1st and 15 somehow seems less daunting when you have #17 under center. So, are you saying that there are coaches out there who don't mind penalties and sloppy play? This just seems like a low quality dig at McDermott. Of course he hates that. All coaches do. Fans do as well. Who doesn't hate penalties and sloppy play? 1 1 Quote
Doc Brown Posted November 1 Posted November 1 1 hour ago, Logic said: I don't know how to verify this statistically, but I believe some of the league's best teams are often some of the most penalized. Or at the very least, that high penalty rates do not meaningfully correlate to teams being bad. Of course, that means diddly squat to Sean McDermott, who loathes penalties and sloppy play. Still...1st and 15 somehow seems less daunting when you have #17 under center. I also loathe penalties and sloppy play. We'd be toast against the NFL elite teams if we committed as many penalties as we did in the Jets and Seahawks game. 1 1 Quote
freddyjj Posted November 1 Posted November 1 2 hours ago, Big Turk said: I...got a feeling...that Buffalo is going to the... SUPERBOWL! Ken "Baby" Johnson locker room swag 1980 Bills Quote
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