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Remains to be determined. If Von comes back and helps us win a couple playoff games (dare I say a Super Bowl?) then it's Von. Better signing because signing him was signing a player who could put you over the top. Signing Mario was always dumb because that team was nowhere near ready to compete with the big boys.

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It has to be Mario.  He beat his production in Houston and had his three best seasons in Buffalo on the way to be named an All-Pro in 2014.   Of course, he also dropped on a cliff a season later and was washed FAST.  But the bottom line is that for 3 seasons the Bills got what they paid for.   
 

Von is a little different.  His run started off really well.  But the ACL injury not only killed half of his 2022, but also 2023 when he spent the entire season recovering.  Right now he’s a situational pass rusher.  While he did take a pay cut I don’t think his production matched his contract.   Of course, if he leads Buffalo to a SB which is a long shot, his contract is worth every penny 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Mario. Not close.

 

I’d argue Mario wasn’t really the finishing piece. Von was supposed to be that. 

 

I’m looking at signing more than player. 

 

EDIT: Signing is not in the title, but still. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

I’d argue Mario wasn’t really the finishing piece. Von was supposed to be that. 

 

I’m looking at signing more than player. 

 

EDIT: Signing is not in the title, but still. 

 

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If Von ends up being a critical piece in a Superbowl team I might change my mind. Until then it isn't close.

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Is this a real question?  

 

Prime talented DE vs an end of his career sack specialist who got hurt and suspended?  

 

Not sure how this can even be asked.  Now maybe we win a SB with Von, but it won't be because Von is better signing than Mario, it will be because this team has Josh Allen, a real GM, and a legit coaching staff where Mario played with trash can QB's, trash can coaches, trash can front office, and was part of a middling team that never sucked enough to get great draft picks and was never good enough to make a playoff.

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If Von ends up being a critical piece in a Superbowl team I might change my mind. Until then it isn't close.

 

Even then though, it won't make Von better signing, it will be because Von had Josh Allen on the other side, was on a better overall roster, with better coaching and a legit front office.  

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Von Miller vs Mario Williams in his prime, Von Miller wins, no contest.


We did not get Von Miller in his prime however. Dollar for dollar Mario Williams was head and shoulders the better signing.

 

Groot and Mario in his prime is a scary thought.

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44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

If Von ends up being a critical piece in a Superbowl team I might change my mind. Until then it isn't close.

That's basically the correct answer 

 

If Miller helps deliver a super bowl , he will become a legend 

 

If that doesn't happen their careers as Buffalo Bills aren't really close so far

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