Cuboirs Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Who was a better signing by the Bills? Mario or Von? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 minute ago, Cuboirs said: Who was a better signing by the Bills? Mario or Von? Mario, he was still in his prime, not even close to me. 4 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Mario didn’t get hurt. A question without an answer. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Mario. Not close. 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Remains to be determined. If Von comes back and helps us win a couple playoff games (dare I say a Super Bowl?) then it's Von. Better signing because signing him was signing a player who could put you over the top. Signing Mario was always dumb because that team was nowhere near ready to compete with the big boys. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) It has to be Mario. He beat his production in Houston and had his three best seasons in Buffalo on the way to be named an All-Pro in 2014. Of course, he also dropped on a cliff a season later and was washed FAST. But the bottom line is that for 3 seasons the Bills got what they paid for. Von is a little different. His run started off really well. But the ACL injury not only killed half of his 2022, but also 2023 when he spent the entire season recovering. Right now he’s a situational pass rusher. While he did take a pay cut I don’t think his production matched his contract. Of course, if he leads Buffalo to a SB which is a long shot, his contract is worth every penny Edited 14 hours ago by JohnNord 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Mario. Not close. I’d argue Mario wasn’t really the finishing piece. Von was supposed to be that. I’m looking at signing more than player. EDIT: Signing is not in the title, but still. . Edited 14 hours ago by Augie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Trent Murphy has the same number of sacks as a Buffalo Bill as Von does. Mario Addison was probably a better free agent signing than Von. Mario Williams is the 2nd or 3rd most productive defensive end the Bills ever had, its not even a discussion. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Mario by a mile ... How many 10+ sack seasons did we get out of him ? ... Won't get any out of Von. Besides Mario had those cool Red contacts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Just now, frostbitmic said: Mario by a mile ... How many 10+ sack seasons did we get out of him ? ... Won't get any out of Von. Besides Mario had those cool Red contacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Augie said: I’d argue Mario wasn’t really the finishing piece. Von was supposed to be that. I’m looking at signing more than player. EDIT: Signing is not in the title, but still. . If Von ends up being a critical piece in a Superbowl team I might change my mind. Until then it isn't close. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 17 minutes ago, frostbitmic said: Mario by a mile ... How many 10+ sack seasons did we get out of him ? ... Won't get any out of Von. Besides Mario had those cool Red contacts. Bryce Paup says hi… 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago The Mario Williams signing was stupid. Spending big in FA on a pass rusher when the team doesn't have a QB is something that bad teams do. He could have had 20 sacks and that team still misses the playoffs with EJ Manuel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Is this a real question? Prime talented DE vs an end of his career sack specialist who got hurt and suspended? Not sure how this can even be asked. Now maybe we win a SB with Von, but it won't be because Von is better signing than Mario, it will be because this team has Josh Allen, a real GM, and a legit coaching staff where Mario played with trash can QB's, trash can coaches, trash can front office, and was part of a middling team that never sucked enough to get great draft picks and was never good enough to make a playoff. 7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If Von ends up being a critical piece in a Superbowl team I might change my mind. Until then it isn't close. Even then though, it won't make Von better signing, it will be because Von had Josh Allen on the other side, was on a better overall roster, with better coaching and a legit front office. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If Von ends up being a critical piece in a Superbowl team I might change my mind. Until then it isn't close. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwriter Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Von Miller vs Mario Williams in his prime, Von Miller wins, no contest. We did not get Von Miller in his prime however. Dollar for dollar Mario Williams was head and shoulders the better signing. Groot and Mario in his prime is a scary thought. Edited 13 hours ago by ghostwriter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago I’m going with Chris Kelsay as the best DE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo716 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 44 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: If Von ends up being a critical piece in a Superbowl team I might change my mind. Until then it isn't close. That's basically the correct answer If Miller helps deliver a super bowl , he will become a legend If that doesn't happen their careers as Buffalo Bills aren't really close so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago Mario had a couple of really dominant years here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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