Mike Edwards wants to be traded

[hondo in seattle]

6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

What does tv have to do with reading articles? This is a weird non sequitur.

 

But to play along if you want to go further off track and complain about the streaming, it's the same whiny complaint people had when they started showing games on ESPN. "Now I have to have cable! Why cant they just keep it over the antenna?" Times are changin, gramps.

 

 

 

 

He had a rough start this season too. But has started to show steady improvement. Maybe getting that first career INT under his belt helped him settle into the position.

 

Still think we can do better, but I'm not calling for his head like I was in September.

 

Hamlin and Rapp don't make me miss Poyer and Hyde (in their prime) but they don't have me hitting panic buttons either.

 

Still, I do worry about this...  The goal is to win a Super Bowl.  We used to have an elite back end (Poyer, Hyde, Tre).  I like our current CBs but I don't think our secondary, overall, is as good as it once was.  You don't win Lombardis by getting worse.  

[Saxum]

8 minutes ago, North Buffalo said:

I have wondering about Edwards too and not surprised he might want out... if he has no value what is his current contract and does a low round trade help the Bills cap situation?

 

As I quoted before:

 

2024-2024 Free Agent

Mike Edwards signed a 1 year , $2,800,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including $1,000,000 signing bonus, $1,600,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,800,000. In 2024, Edwards will earn a base salary of $1,240,000, a signing bonus of $1,000,000 and a workout bonus of $50,000, while carrying a cap hit of $2,800,000 and a dead cap value of $1,600,000.

[Don Otreply]

3 minutes ago, Saxum said:

 

As I quoted before:

 

2024-2024 Free Agent

Mike Edwards signed a 1 year , $2,800,000 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including $1,000,000 signing bonus, $1,600,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $2,800,000. In 2024, Edwards will earn a base salary of $1,240,000, a signing bonus of $1,000,000 and a workout bonus of $50,000, while carrying a cap hit of $2,800,000 and a dead cap value of $1,600,000.

So what about his integration into this defense is holding him back going into week nine of the season? 

Is Hamlin actually better overall, or is it that they are basically tied but Hamlin has been here longer, and or they feel emotionally attached to him, because of the dying on the field thing?? 
 

 Or he isn’t very good and, although it’s a cheap contract, it was a not so great signing..,?

[SoonerBillsFan]

9 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Hamlin and Rapp don't make me miss Poyer and Hyde (in their prime) but they don't have me hitting panic buttons either.

 

Still, I do worry about this...  The goal is to win a Super Bowl.  We used to have an elite back end (Poyer, Hyde, Tre).  I like our current CBs but I don't think our secondary, overall, is as good as it once was.  You don't win Lombardis by getting worse.  

We didn't win a Lombardi with Hyde and Poyer. In fact I remember Hill running across the face of them with less than 2 min left in KC and giving KC the lead. That was before the 13 seconds, but you get the point. I remember against the Jags last year, they got beat in both the run and pass. Poyer looks like crap in Miami.  

 

 

Look you don't need Great Safety play to win a super Bowl, just good, solid play with guys who know where to be and are always there.  We NEED better DL play, that is what helps get us to Super bowls.

[TheBeaneBandit]

8 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We didn't win a Lombardi with Hyde and Poyer. In fact I remember Hill running across the face of them with less than 2 min left in KC and giving KC the lead. That was before the 13 seconds, but you get the point. I remember against the Jags last year, they got beat in both the run and pass. Poyer looks like crap in Miami.  

 

 

Look you don't need Great Safety play to win a super Bowl, just good, solid play with guys who know where to be and are always there.  We NEED better DL play, that is what helps get us to Super bowls.

Yep we need another DL that can help with the run and get pressure up the middle.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Send him to the Rams for White and move him to S

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

Send him to the Rams for White and move him to S

White's washed and isn't a good enough tackler to play safety.  Hyde is a better option than him.

[KOKBILLS]

On 10/30/2024 at 2:05 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

Maybe we can get Myles Garrett for him?

[PoundingDog]

30 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

We didn't win a Lombardi with Hyde and Poyer. In fact I remember Hill running across the face of them with less than 2 min left in KC and giving KC the lead. That was before the 13 seconds, but you get the point. I remember against the Jags last year, they got beat in both the run and pass. Poyer looks like crap in Miami.  

 

 

Look you don't need Great Safety play to win a super Bowl, just good, solid play with guys who know where to be and are always there.  We NEED better DL play, that is what helps get us to Super bowls.

Belichick mentioned that the Bills secondary overall is slow and that is very true. Schematically it limits them, basically they have to be very sound overall without taking much chances against great QBs, Mahomes, Jackson, Burrow, Stroud, the like we'll see in playoffs. They tried to change that by drafting Elam and Bishop, but neither of them is able to get on the field yet.

 

The best path for now, in my opinion, is to improve DL play. There is no Chris Jones to be had in trade market. But a Calais Campbell type may help a great deal.

  

[MJS]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

I know where it comes from - watching Hamlin play in previous seasons.  I thought he sucked too.  I wondered last year if his spot on the roster was merely PR and sympathy.  I had doubts he'd make the squad this year.  

 

But, to my eyes, he's playing at another level this year.  Not Pro Bowl.  Not elite.  But decent.  He seems to understand the defense and mostly be in the right place at the right time.  

That's a good thought, but I think everyone started dumping on him after the first few weeks, not before then.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

White's washed and isn't a good enough tackler to play safety.  Hyde is a better option than him.

I don’t know why so many people this he’s a bad tackler. I never once felt that way about White. I have seen like 5 people say it. Whatever. I don’t agree with that whatsoever. My guess is nobody thought Hyde was that great of a tackler while he was a CB in GB. That worked out pretty well

[Don Otreply]

53 minutes ago, Saxum said:

 

Bills fans need designated players to complain about because one way or another they are going to complain as you have illustrated.  If Hamlin plays better in training camp, some of which they may not have anticipated, then the player they signed during offseason is superfluous unless there are injured.  If Hamlin has not progressed then rookie Cole Bishop had a chance to supplant him in camp or preseason.  Unfortunately Mike Edwards has been frequently injured and unable to show he is not even better than Cole Bishop to get snaps hence "break glass when needed" box has not been broken.

 

Waiting for complaints that Mike White has not supplanted Mitchell Trubisky as QB.

Hello Saxum, noticed you posting here as of late,  is a question now a complaint?  a simple straightforward description of his performance while a Bill would have been the preferred response, your complaining about my question is quite ironic wouldn’t you say? lol, nuthin but luv, 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Hamlin and Rapp don't make me miss Poyer and Hyde (in their prime) but they don't have me hitting panic buttons either.

 

Still, I do worry about this...  The goal is to win a Super Bowl.  We used to have an elite back end (Poyer, Hyde, Tre).  I like our current CBs but I don't think our secondary, overall, is as good as it once was.  You don't win Lombardis by getting worse.  

I’d rather have two great corners and 2 mid safeties than the opposite.  Our corners were bad-  Levi and Dane were our corners in the playoffs most years.  Now we have one of the best corner duos in the league.  Poyer and Hyde were great for a few years but our safety play had declined the previous 2 seasons.  
 

while I was scared of rapp (and I’m awaiting a big blunder from him) and not happy about Damar starting they’ve been about as good (if not better) playing safety as Dane and Levi played corner.

 

i think the secondary level of play is actually better now, because Taron continues to improve.  The secondary may seem lesser due to Cam being continuously picked on

[Saxum]

35 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Hello Saxum, noticed you posting here as of late,  is a question now a complaint?  a simple straightforward description of his performance while a Bill would have been the preferred response, your complaining about my question is quite ironic wouldn’t you say? lol, nuthin but luv, 

 

You specifically had two alternates - you phrased it as one or the other wrong decisions by Bills rather than "questions".

 

When we had a straightforward question I looked up and provided the info.

 

Posters have complained bitchslapped Bills more about Bills than opposing fans do on their boards but I am not part of management and almost everyone is welcome to take cheap shots, use derogatory nicknames and call for them to be immediately fired all they want since almost since I was on this board last century.

[Chandler#81]

You want out? Find us a trade partner we like and I’ll pack your bags.

Otherwise, stfu

[hondo in seattle]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

That's a good thought, but I think everyone started dumping on him after the first few weeks, not before then.

 

Maybe you're right.

 

But I was in the "Damar sucks" mindset through the first few games, as a carryover of previous held opinions.  It took me a while to come to terms with the new & improved Damar.  I'm guessing there are some others who are taking a bit longer than me to realize the 2024 edition of Damar is different than older editions.  

[Saxum]

1 minute ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

Maybe you're right.

 

But I was in the "Damar sucks" mindset through the first few games, as a carryover of previous held opinions.  It took me a while to come to terms with the new & improved Damar.  I'm guessing there are some others who are taking a bit longer than me to realize the 2024 edition of Damar is different than older editions.  

 

I agree,  I was expecting him to be traded to Steelers to continue the good vibes since letting him go was bad press.

[hondo in seattle]

52 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’d rather have two great corners and 2 mid safeties than the opposite.  Our corners were bad-  Levi and Dane were our corners in the playoffs most years.  Now we have one of the best corner duos in the league.  Poyer and Hyde were great for a few years but our safety play had declined the previous 2 seasons.  
 

while I was scared of rapp (and I’m awaiting a big blunder from him) and not happy about Damar starting they’ve been about as good (if not better) playing safety as Dane and Levi played corner.

 

i think the secondary level of play is actually better now, because Taron continues to improve.  The secondary may seem lesser due to Cam being continuously picked on

 

I get your point about rather having great corners than safeties.  But...

 

In 2021, the Bills led the NFL in pass defense, giving up only 2,771 yards (163 ypg).

 

In 2024, we're 17th in pass defense so far, giving up 208 ypg.  

 

Maybe with Taron back and Hamlin & Rapp learning to play together in their new roles as starters, our statistical performance will improve.  Von's return could help as well.  

 

I'd love to see us hold opposing QBs to 163 ypg again.

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, Saxum said:

 

You specifically had two alternates - you phrased it as one or the other wrong decisions by Bills rather than "questions".

 

When we had a straightforward question I looked up and provided the info.

 

Posters have complained bitchslapped Bills more about Bills than opposing fans do on their boards but I am not part of management and almost everyone is welcome to take cheap shots, use derogatory nicknames and call for them to be immediately fired all they want since almost since I was on this board last century.

One mustn’t assume, 

 

I do critique from time to time, I have never been a non stop complainer, after all , it’s a game…, nuthin but luv, but 

 

GO BILLS!!!

[QLBillsFan]

18 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

He takes really bad angles on run plays, he gives up a lot of yards in the air due to not knowing where he should be and he runs into blocks very often and never disengages. I'm rooting for him because he's on our team and I want everyone to do well. But it's apparent that we have different views of what a good player looks like.

I appreciate your perspective. But I think the only reason he’s playing is because he’s where he’s supposed to be. He’s a sound tackler but clearly is not super athletic or strong is coverage. I simply assume he’s playing because he’s currently the most reliable. Between Edwards and Bishop I had zero expectation that he would be the starter. They were both hurt in pre season and that’s been it 🤷🏻‍♂️