NeverOutNick Posted October 31 Posted October 31 4 minutes ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: you don't think McDermott would put Edwards over Hamlin if he figured he was better ? Maybe Edwards isn’t better and maybe he’s a cancer that needs to be sent away but why draft Cole Bishop in the second round if you didn’t think he was better than Hamlin. Just watch Hamlin on the field he’s so lost in coverage and it’s going to be a problem come playoffs. He’s a great story and tries hard but he’s not a starting caliber player. He's the guy on almost every team that would be inactive most weeks during game-day. I’d rather plug in a guy who has proven to be decent in coverage in the playoffs (Edwards) or put the kid you invested in (bishop) to knock the mistakes out early in the season so he’s ready to go for a Super Bowl run 1 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted October 31 Posted October 31 9 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: That is what Lewis Cine is for I'm hoping Cine gets his shot soon. He looks like a player. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 9 hours ago, GASabresIUFan said: That is what Lewis Cine is for He’s being moved to LB. 8 hours ago, Saxum said: Tre' contract is too much for Bills. Edwards has more value than Tre.. Bills set at CB. 8 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: For all my issues with McDermott, his evaluation with DB's is NOT one of them. I say package him, maybe Elam for a DT or something. All I know is since he put that on, his play has gotten much better. Maybe it slows him down a little? Elam is going nowhere.. he had key int vs Steelers.. disappointing per draft spot absolutely. But he’s depth at an important position. 1 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 I don’t blame him. He’s good enough to at least be active and rotate in. Fair case he’s better than Hamlin Quote
QLBillsFan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 8 hours ago, Logic said: No one is trading for Mike Edwards. Maybe -- MAYBE -- you could get someone to swap their 6th for our 7th, but I doubt even that. It's more likely that the Bills will just release him because they don't want a malcontent in the locker room. Depends on his attitude. If he pissed he’s not playing but practicing and being a team player fine. If he is hurting the team in any way he’s gone. We have heard he’s not happy before.. but it comes down to that. He is a valuable depth player at the Bills weakest position. Like Virgil he could suddenly get playing time in any of the next 9 weeks. Quote
NewEra Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said: Maybe Edwards isn’t better and maybe he’s a cancer that needs to be sent away but why draft Cole Bishop in the second round if you didn’t think he was better than Hamlin. Just watch Hamlin on the field he’s so lost in coverage and it’s going to be a problem come playoffs. He’s a great story and tries hard but he’s not a starting caliber player. He's the guy on almost every team that would be inactive most weeks during game-day. I’d rather plug in a guy who has proven to be decent in coverage in the playoffs (Edwards) or put the kid you invested in (bishop) to knock the mistakes out early in the season so he’s ready to go for a Super Bowl run Why draft Kaiir Elam over Christian Benford if you didn’t junk he was better? well, they did think he was better. Then life happened and they realized he wasn’t. I was hoping bishop would be starting too. I’m not happy with Hamlin starting…..but he’s currently the better player. Bishop still has a lot to learn and he’s not ready to be a starter and could cause us games. Developing a 2nd rd draft pick isn’t more important than winning games for this team. 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) 12 hours ago, bmur66 said: Trading him now pretty much guarantees a future injury to a safety The thing is, even if we had an injury - he wouldn't be the first man up. He wasn't when Taylor Rapp went down. He only had a couple snaps even then. Cole Bishop is the 3rd Safety. And with the other Safeties we have on the Roster and Practice Squad - I'd be surprised if they see a drop off between him and Cam Lewis or Kareem Jackson. If anyone was willing to offer anything for him, I'd take it. Edited October 31 by BillsFanForever19 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 8 hours ago, Steptide said: I have to believe since he's inactive every week, this is some kind of work ethic thing. McDermott has stated multiple times that everything is earned. If he's riding the bench every week, and guys like Hamlin are starting over him, there's gotta be somethjng else happening That’s not giving Hamlin any credit. He is certainly not a great S by any stretch. But I think McClappy is playing the players who give the Bills the best chance to win-period. If it was all bad attitude I think he would already be gone. He got hurt, Hamlin knows the “process “ and he’s been serviceable. 1 2 Quote
NewEra Posted October 31 Posted October 31 13 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: He’s being moved to LB. According to many, this is not true Quote
Starr Almighty Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, Kenosha2Buffalo said: you don't think McDermott would put Edwards over Hamlin if he figured he was better ? I didn't think it's possible to play any worse than Hamlin. He's completely lost out there 1 2 1 1 Quote
NeverOutNick Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 minute ago, NewEra said: Why draft Kaiir Elam over Christian Benford if you didn’t junk he was better? well, they did think he was better. Then life happened and they realized he wasn’t. I was hoping bishop would be starting too. I’m not happy with Hamlin starting…..but he’s currently the better player. Bishop still has a lot to learn and he’s not ready to be a starter and could cause us games. Developing a 2nd rd draft pick isn’t more important than winning games for this team. I disagree. The drop off is not there. The corners are already on islands and thank God Benford, Douglas and Taron are amazing. Let Bishop start or heck put Edwards back there and the pass D will be better I would put money on that. Just watch Hamlin look lost in coverage and show up to make a tackle after the play broke down over and over again Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 31 Posted October 31 5 hours ago, MJS said: I don't know where the narrative that Hamlin sucks has come from. He isn't an impact starter or anything, hut he is fine. He is like Levi Wallace. Replaceable, but not a liability, either. It’s from people that can’t clearly comprehend and/or express what they’re watching. 1 1 Quote
Jimmy Harris 69 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) It seems clear the coaching staff doesn’t believe in Edwards so it would be in the best interest of the team to trade him for some asset(s). He would have been on the field by now if it was going to happen. Damar is a middling talent and Bishop is a rook, prone to giving McD agita. Yet Edwards is the forgotten man on Sunday. Cine has much to offer and he too can sit on the bench on Sunday. 🫤Time to cut bait. Edited October 31 by Jimmy Harris 69 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) Sean has bias toward Damar + he knows the system. Even if we acquired a good safety, he wouldnt see the field as a starter for 4-6 weeks If the Rams can eat his $$ I’d ask Tre White if he believes he can become a Safety. Could be an interesting experiment Edwards for Tre Edited October 31 by Warriorspikes51 Quote
QLBillsFan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 5 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Zero reason to trust McDermott on personnel decisions. He started Trent Murphy for three years and he was worse than Epenesa. He didn't recognize Teller. He started Peterman. Heck even Poona Ford is playing ok for Chargers (15 tackles and 1 sack). If you say that is not much it's double he had with Bills last year and on pace for what he did with Seattle on a regular basis. Oh and it's 3 more tackles than Oliver has. Obviously with the training camp injury Hamlin was starting. But it's still very curious that Edwards can't even dress for game day and rotate in for a few series per game. Great job selecting the misses.. so funny. TM didn’t start for 3 years…Teller was a miss..our DT’s are better than PF this and last year. I could name 10 players McClappy has hit on the past 4-5 years. And 2 things 1 The current starter beat him out and was available 2. He doesn’t play ST as Bishop does. So I’m only surprised he didn’t beat out Hamlin, otherwise it makes sense. Milano, TJ, Bernard, Benford, Shakir, Ty Johnson, R Davis, Hamlin, Morris, Ingram. All 4-7 picks or FA’s. Probably missed a few. 15 minutes ago, NewEra said: According to many, this is not true Hmm ok it’s been reported 🤷🏻♂️ Quote
NewEra Posted October 31 Posted October 31 18 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I disagree. The drop off is not there. The corners are already on islands and thank God Benford, Douglas and Taron are amazing. Let Bishop start or heck put Edwards back there and the pass D will be better I would put money on that. Just watch Hamlin look lost in coverage and show up to make a tackle after the play broke down over and over again Bishop is learning a completely different defense. One that he said is much different that his previous experience. He had one start and his blown coverage turned out to be the difference in the game. 1 start. 1 L. agree to disagree. I was once in agreement with you, until I saw him play. He can’t process fast enough atm. And that’s why he’s on the bench. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 27 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: I didn't think it's possible to play any worse than Hamlin. He's completely lost out there Fascinating that the Bills don’t think he’s lost. I don’t think he’s great but he’s been serviceable imho. I’ve seen him play poorly on a few plays but he’s not lost. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) 21 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: Great job selecting the misses.. so funny. TM didn’t start for 3 years…Teller was a miss..our DT’s are better than PF this and last year. I could name 10 players McClappy has hit on the past 4-5 years. And 2 things 1 The current starter beat him out and was available 2. He doesn’t play ST as Bishop does. So I’m only surprised he didn’t beat out Hamlin, otherwise it makes sense. Milano, TJ, Bernard, Benford, Shakir, Ty Johnson, R Davis, Hamlin, Morris, Ingram. All 4-7 picks or FA’s. Probably missed a few. Hmm ok it’s been reported 🤷🏻♂️ Reported by whom? Link? Insinuating due to standing next to LBs in the team photo. Dude weighed 198 in College. And now he’s a LB? other here have said it’s been reported that he’s a S. i think the Bills website might actually be something of substance https://www.buffalobills.com/team/players-roster/ 6’2 199. Listed as a Safety. Or maybe he’s a 199 pound LB. First one ever edit: just googled and you are correct- a month ago it was reported. I haven’t seen anything, other than from this site stating that the move to LB was reversed. https://www.niagara-gazette.com/sports/former-first-round-pick-lewis-cines-fresh-start-with-bills-comes-with-switch-to-linebacker/article_ca05d380-85ab-11ef-ad37-83d2c9bc5c29.amp.html up to 210 with a goal to reach 215-218. Interesting. That was almost 2 months ago. Wonder where this stands now Edited October 31 by NewEra Quote
QLBillsFan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: Reported by whom? Link? Insinuating due to standing next to LBs in the team photo. Dude weighed 198 in College. And now he’s a LB? other here have said it’s been reported that he’s a S. i think the Bills website might actually be something of substance https://www.buffalobills.com/team/players-roster/ 6’2 199. Listed as a Safety. Or maybe he’s a 199 pound LB. First one ever https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-lewis-cine-potential-position-change. I’ll just post this and not act arrogant in response to your sarcastic approach. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted October 31 Posted October 31 3 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: https://www.si.com/nfl/bills/news/buffalo-bills-lewis-cine-potential-position-change. I’ll just post this and not act arrogant in response to your sarcastic approach. And I also admitted my defeat…..amidst the arrogance. To be fair, the article was posted October 2nd. This may or may not currently still be the case Quote
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