Brady under fire for calling Josh a "spaz" on Sunday's broadcast...

[behind a post WMS69]

18 minutes ago, Pasaluki said:

 

And yet over here not one British person sent to jail for pronouncing aluminum Al Yoo Min Ee Um

 

Truly the United States is the more tolerant country. 

That's actually the correct word, has to do with Latin and the format of the periodic table. Aluminum is mispronounced here due to brand name or something like that.

[Goin Breakdown]

And yet there's the word right in the title of the thread. 

[boyst]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

He is supposed to know what is considered vulgar in a different country?

“If Brady steps foot in England, hold him down and burn him with fags!”

if he is into that kind of pain stuff it'd make him quit gay. 

[Pasaluki]

Just now, behind a post WMS69 said:

That's actually the correct word, has to do with Latin and the format of the periodic table. Aluminum is mispronounced here due to brand name or something like that.

 

I bet you worship the metric system too. 

 

Might as well start drinking tea and eating crumpets you anglophile.

[DD4Bills]

ffs...

 

 

[Buffalo ill]

1 hour ago, Simon said:

 

Probably my favorite movie villian.

[BontitaBills]

Why would Joe Brady call Josh a spaz?  

[Bockeye]

2 hours ago, Nephilim17 said:

If people are upset, apologize, don't do it again, and move on.

Saying something wrong with ignorance is not right but not the same as saying something wrong with intention.

Don’t apologize.  If people have a problem with it, let them deal with their problem.  

[Simon]

Just now, BontitaBills said:

Why would Joe Brady call Josh a spaz?  

 

Projection

[boater]

This whole affair reminds me of this quote from the internets:

 

"We live in a time where intelligent people are silenced so that stupid people won’t be offended.”

 

I defend Tom Brady. I never thought I would utter those words.

[Simon]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo ill said:

Probably my favorite movie villian.

 

It's exceedingly rare to see somebody nail a part that perfectly.

[Returntoglory]

3 hours ago, eball said:

Didn't see this posted anywhere else.  I'm all for respecting the handicapped and disadvantaged, but isn't this going a bit overboard?  I mean, there was a character in a movie nicknamed "spaz" and do we really have to critique people for comments that are clearly not intended to harm anyone?

 

This is what we have become. What once was funny, is now offensive and grounds for firing. 

[Nephilim17]

7 minutes ago, Bockeye said:

Don’t apologize.  If people have a problem with it, let them deal with their problem.  

I don't agree. If this is a slur against people with disabilities and most of the non-disabled population aren't aware of that, I think it's basic human respect to listen to the people hurt by it and try to evolve.

The same could be said of a lot of slurs over the decades. If you had a kid who was disabled, or a brother, or an cousin, and this word hurt them, why would you not want people to understand it and try to do better?

Now, if 99% of disabled people have zero problem with the word, it's a different story.

In my opinion. Why decide for others what they should or should not tolerate?

[GoBills808]

9 minutes ago, boater said:

This whole affair reminds me of this quote from the internets:

 

"We live in a time where intelligent people are silenced so that stupid people won’t be offended.”

 

I defend Tom Brady. I never thought I would utter those words.

You're probably the first to suggest he's intelligent too so congrats

[Simon]

1 minute ago, Returntoglory said:

This is what we have become. What once was funny, is now offensive and grounds for firing. 

 

It was funny to you.

Maybe not so much to somebody who loves a child with a debilitating neurological disorder.

Is empathy really that inconvenient for so many people?

[Bills Juggernaut]

My first thought was why is everyone getting mad over this guy…..

[Simon]

2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

You're probably the first to suggest he's intelligent too so congrats

 

I gave him a warning point for that one

[Pasaluki]

14 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Projection

It would definitely be that if Ken Dorsey was still here.

[Mango]

3 hours ago, Nelius said:

A few caught this in the game day thread, he just let it fly without pause. Was more awkward than anything because he did it while rambling. Honestly didn’t mind Brady overall

 

This is the second game I have caught with Brady. He is getting a lot better at the play by play stuff. He is still super awkward doing the sideline stuff. 

I said it in another thread, he would likely be at his best doing a simulcast or podcast on the nuts and bolts of each play for both teams. Honestly Fox, ESPN, or Paramount should be doing this as part of their paid for streaming package. They all have former QB's as part of their crews. Getting two hours of film review from Romo, Manning(s), and/or Brady is definitely something I would be willing to pay for. 

[folz]

“You think, I dare say, that our chief job is inventing new words. But not a bit of it! We’re destroying words–scores of them, hundreds of them, every day. We’re cutting the language down to the bone."...“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it. Every concept that can ever be needed will be expressed by exactly one word, with its meaning rigidly defined and all its subsidiary meanings rubbed out and forgotten…”  ---George Orwell from 1984

 

 

Yes, one definition is: 1. "an involuntary and abnormal muscular contraction" (that now is used medically)

But, there is a second definiton as: 2. a sudden violent and temporary effort, emotion, or sensation. Such as in: "a spasm of creativity" or "spasms of pain" (Could be emotional pain, not necessarily physical).

 

The word comes from Latin (late 14th century), meaning to draw out violently (like a sword from a hilt).

 

The figurative sense of "a sudden convulsion, abnormally energetic action or phase" (of emotion, politics, etc.) is attested by 1817.

"twitch convulsively," wasn't a definition until 1889 and not used medically until much later.

 

So, the second definition is actually the older use of the word. So, there is a (more original) meaning of the word that is not in relation to anyone who has physical spasms or seizures. Also, the word can be used in other ways, including other medical uses: "Coughing spasms" "Esophageal spasms" "the renal artery went into spasm" 

 

It has been used in writing and poetry, like "spasms of joy" "spasms of love" "a spasm of fear" "spasms of guilt"...but now a writer can no longer use the word because a later connotation of the word has been linked to a medical condition and someone with that condition may now feel that you are mocking them? When I was a kid, one of the first things you learned was, "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but names (words) will never hurt me." Why would you take offense to something that you know wasn't even meant as a slur/knock/mockery of you?

 

And we also need to look at intentions and context, not the word said alone. Does anyone in their right mind really think that Tom Brady used that word to mock people with MS or cerebral palsy? No, he was using it in relation to Josh, with the more original meaning, "sudden, energetic action." I mean doesn't that sound just like "sugar high Josh?" He wasn't saying he looked like someone having muscle spasms or a seizure. So, why should anyone with a medical condition feel offended?