Brady under fire for calling Josh a "spaz" on Sunday's broadcast...

[The Frankish Reich]

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

I believe "spaz" originated as short for "spastic" which was a descriptor for cerebral palsy.

 

It's kinda like how "moron" was an actual medical term before it was used to describe me in gameday threads.

But "moron" was a level above "idiot." Congratulations.

[Gunvald's Husse]

8 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Just give me a list of words I’m allowed to use. 

How about not ones that mock people with disabilities and diseases such as Cerebral Palsy or Multiple Sclerosis?

 

Spaz is short for Spastic (in the UK at least) as, as @GunnerBill said, is a definite no-no on this side of the pond (now, at least. When I was at school back in the middle ages, it was, unfortunately, much used)

Edited 5 hours ago by Gunvald's Husse

[Rubes]

8 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Interesting.  I did not know that.  Thanks.  As kids we used that term all the time.

 

 

True, but also you were a kid like eight or nine decades ago.

 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

2 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

I may be ignorant but why can’t you say spaz? 

You’re not and last time I checked freedom of speech is still a thing.

[eball]

1 minute ago, Rubes said:

 

True, but also you were a kid like eight or nine decades ago.

 

 

 

[Royale with Cheese]

12 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

We discussed this in the SB the other day. In the UK he'd have been fired, instantly. It is pretty much second only to the n word in terms of offensive terms you can't use. I understand it doesn't have the same baggage in the US but honestly it made me very uncomfortable. I mentioned it in the GDT

Aren’t cigarettes called fags in the UK?

 

Do you know what that term means in the US?

[eball]

3 minutes ago, Gunvald's Husse said:

How about not ones that mock people with disabilities and diseases such as Cerebral Palsy or Multiple Sclerosis?

 

Spaz is short for Spastic (in the UK at least) as, as @GunnerBill said, is a definite no-no on this side of the pond (now, at least, when I was at school back in the middle ages, it was, unfortunately, much used

 

Let's ease up just a bit.  "Spaz" is commonly used to refer to someone who is awkward or clumsy, which is clearly how Brady intended it and how most of us (in the States) used it growing up.  If we want to say that now it is not PC to use the term, fine, but it's not like anyone using the term the way Brady did is mocking people with disabilities.

 

[Royale with Cheese]

We use the word spazz almost everyday day at my gym.

[Don Otreply]

10 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

I may be ignorant but why can’t you say spaz? 

Because it endangers all the pearls that may get clutched far to hard…, 

[That's No Moon]

8 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

You’re not and last time I checked freedom of speech is still a thing.

It is, but it doesn't mean, and has never meant, what you think it does.

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Just curious. What does it mean to you guys?

 

It is an offensive short form of the word "spastic" which unless it is used in its strictest medical form is considered offensive. Calling someone a "spastic" because they behave erraticly is considered pretty offensive to people eho actually have disabilities. 

[Nelius]

14 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

May be an unpopular comment, but everyone just seems overly sensitive these days.

 

Is it the right term to use? No

 

But jeez, not the end of the world as the media is having a field day with this

Just simple lack of context. Been firing people up for decades.

 

if you heard it Brady was clearly just rambling and searching for the right word to describe Josh’s growth. Probably not the right word lol but he certainly only meant positive intent 

[US Egg]

The Chaz’s of the world rejoice!

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

7 minutes ago, Gunvald's Husse said:

How about not ones that mock people with disabilities and diseases such as Cerebral Palsy or Multiple Sclerosis?

 

Spaz is short for Spastic (in the UK at least) as, as @GunnerBill said, is a definite no-no on this side of the pond (now, at least. When I was at school back in the middle ages, it was, unfortunately, much used)

In the us I don’t think people would really associate that word with those diseases at all.   Pretty much just means clumsy here

 

im sure Brady had no idea it meant that in other countries and won’t ever use it again 

 

[Pasaluki]

6 minutes ago, Gunvald's Husse said:

How about not ones that mock people with disabilities and diseases such as Cerebral Palsy or Multiple Sclerosis?

 

It doesn't have the same connotation over here so it's fine. 

 

Honestly again I hear people in the UK be free and loose when they say a very derogatory term towards women that would get someone in the US fired so our friends across the pond shouldn't throw rocks at glass houses. 

[gonzo1105]

I mean if he really is under fire than this world is even softer than I thought. He called him a spaz or spastic. People on this board have called him a human golden retriever. Sugar high etc etc. Brady and him are at least solid acquaintances if not friends. Brady is going to have to say a lot worse than spaz for him to get the hook after that mega contract.

[hondo in seattle]

18 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Interesting.  I did not know that.  Thanks.  As kids we used that term all the time.

 

 

I'm with you.  I was probably in my 40s when I learned the derivation of the word spaz.   It was commonly used when I was a kid, too, in a mildly offensive way.   We didn't say, "You spaz!" to our enemies as a serious insult, only to friends jokingly.   I was surprised when I later learned that some people considered it deeply offensive.  

[Gunvald's Husse]

1 minute ago, Pasaluki said:

 

It doesn't have the same connotation over here so it's fine. 

 

Honestly again I hear people in the UK be free and loose when they say a very derogatory term towards women that would get someone in the US fired so our friends across the pond shouldn't throw rocks at glass houses. 

No one was throwing rocks, the question was why it was considered so offensive in the UK.

 

What Brady says or doesn't say is not much of a topic of conversation over here (assuming people even know who he is)

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is an offensive short form of the word "spastic" which unless it is used in its strictest medical form is considered offensive. Calling someone a "spastic" because they behave erraticly is considered pretty offensive to people eho actually have disabilities. 

This is not what "Spaz" means in my neck of the woods. 

 

As an aside, we should all have a very high bar for what WORDS are offensive.

 

 

[nedboy7]

Being offended exposes a level of mental and spiritual immaturity.