Brady under fire for calling Josh a "spaz" on Sunday's broadcast...

[Pecos Bills]

Let's go to the videotape!

•   Merriam-Webster's: slang, often offensive
•   American Heritage: Often Offensive Slang
•   Collins: offensive slang
•   Wiktionary: slang, derogatory, offensive (The offensiveness of this term and of spastic differs throughout the Anglosphere. In the UK, Ireland, Canada and Australia, it is highly offensive. The term is more casually used in the U.S., but is still offensive to some disabled people)
•   Cambridge American: informal offensive (an extremely offensive word for a stupid person, or a person who behaves or moves in a strange or uncontrolled way. an extremely offensive word for a person who has cerebral palsy)
•   OED: slang. offensive (usually derogatory or depreciative) (In British use typically derogatory and always closely associated with the meaning in sense 3, and as a result considered highly offensive to people with disabilities. In North American use typically mildly depreciative and not considered highly offensive before the 21st century.
•   Dictionary.com: (The slang use of spastic (or spaz ) to mean “clumsy” is perceived as insulting to people who are affected with muscular spasms.)

[JÂy RÛßeÒ]

Look at us, defending Tom Brady.

I'll take 'Things I never thought I'd see' for $200, Alex.

[Buffalo ill]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

We discussed this in the SB the other day. In the UK he'd have been fired, instantly. It is pretty much second only to the n word in terms of offensive terms you can't use. I understand it doesn't have the same baggage in the US but honestly it made me very uncomfortable. I mentioned it in the GDT

In the UK they would just call him a ruthless cun_ and everyone would chuckle.

[TheBrownBear]

I remember Beyonce getting dragged pretty hard for it a couple of years back and retroactively removing it from one of her songs.  I'm a free speech guy and generally abhor cancel culture, but, if we are being honest, the use of the word "spaz" is offensive and should generally be avoided in polite conversation. I've used it for years without much thought, but my wife has corrected me enough times that I'm generally able to catch myself now.

[GoBills808]

The NFL and its affiliates are trying to widen international appeal...it's pretty reasonable to ask a more inclusive vocabulary of a professional broadcaster.

[Sgt. Ski]

1 hour ago, eball said:

Didn't see this posted anywhere else.  I'm all for respecting the handicapped and disadvantaged, but isn't this going a bit overboard?  I mean, there was a character in a movie nicknamed "spaz" and do we really have to critique people for comments that are clearly not intended to harm anyone?

 

spaz doesn't mean disabled. geesh.. frozen it........let it go!

[Saxum]

13 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

Look at us, defending Tom Brady.

I'll take 'Things I never thought I'd see' for $200, Alex.

 

We had Br*dy ball lickers before he retired from cheating in the NFL.

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is an offensive short form of the word "spastic" which unless it is used in its strictest medical form is considered offensive. Calling someone a "spastic" because they behave erraticly is considered pretty offensive to people eho actually have disabilities. 

So it's like calling someone the R word if I am understanding correctly

[Billsatlastin2018]

2 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

So it's like calling someone the R word if I am understanding correctly

Yes… a bit worse.

[Snappysnackcakes]

George Carlin is turning over in his grave. 

[Yobogoya!]

I honestly thought this was a joke topic but well… here we are. I’ve never thought of that word being anything especially malicious, I’m truly shocked (and being shocked by the easily offended in 2024 is saying something). 
 

Brady was literally describing how he dried off his wet (foot)balls on broadcast and ppl are keying in on this word? You can’t make this stuff up lol 

[Another Fan]

30 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said:

Look at us, defending Tom Brady.

I'll take 'Things I never thought I'd see' for $200, Alex.

Me neither.

 

But to be fair PC culture has really gotten out of hand imo on what people focus on.  

[The Poojer]

so if someone has a spastic colon, they actually have cerebral palsy of the colon?

 

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

I believe "spaz" originated as short for "spastic" which was a descriptor for cerebral palsy.

 

It's kinda like how "moron" was an actual medical term before it was used to describe me in gameday threads.

[SoonerBillsFan]

32 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

I remember Beyonce getting dragged pretty hard for it a couple of years back and retroactively removing it from one of her songs.  I'm a free speech guy and generally abhor cancel culture, but, if we are being honest, the use of the word "spaz" is offensive and should generally be avoided in polite conversation. I've used it for years without much thought, but my wife has corrected me enough times that I'm generally able to catch myself now.

I say spaz, being Gen X I just dont care lol. My wife, an educator, gets on me pretty good if I say ######.  So I am willing to bend and drop that one.

2 minutes ago, The Poojer said:

so if someone has a spastic colon, they actually have cerebral palsy of the colon?

 

Its IBS now.

[BRH]

2 hours ago, eball said:

Didn't see this posted anywhere else.  I'm all for respecting the handicapped and disadvantaged, but isn't this going a bit overboard?  I mean, there was a character in a movie nicknamed "spaz" and do we really have to critique people for comments that are clearly not intended to harm anyone?

 

 

If we're thinking about the same movie, it was released about 45 years ago... you know, when people with disabilities were still mostly called "handicapped."

[Royale with Cheese]

38 minutes ago, Pecos Bills said:

Let's go to the videotape!

•   Merriam-Webster's: slang, often offensive
•   American Heritage: Often Offensive Slang
•   Collins: offensive slang
•   Wiktionary: slang, derogatory, offensive (The offensiveness of this term and of spastic differs throughout the Anglosphere. In the UK, Ireland, Canada and Australia, it is highly offensive. The term is more casually used in the U.S., but is still offensive to some disabled people)
•   Cambridge American: informal offensive (an extremely offensive word for a stupid person, or a person who behaves or moves in a strange or uncontrolled way. an extremely offensive word for a person who has cerebral palsy)
•   OED: slang. offensive (usually derogatory or depreciative) (In British use typically derogatory and always closely associated with the meaning in sense 3, and as a result considered highly offensive to people with disabilities. In North American use typically mildly depreciative and not considered highly offensive before the 21st century.
•   Dictionary.com: (The slang use of spastic (or spaz ) to mean “clumsy” is perceived as insulting to people who are affected with muscular spasms.)

 

If only Brady lived in the US...

[USCGBILLSFAN]

I have a kid with special needs, and if people refer to him in a specific manner, im going to defend him....im not going to be mad at them for using certain language, im going to be mad at them for not knowing my son and being ignorant AF.

Josh and Tom know each other, its friendly banter between them and we have all seen Josh spaz out in games.   Its ok to say it, we have become too sensitive to words and to go after Tom for using a word IMHO is just par for the course this country is headed

[machine gun kelly]

If the spaz comment is in relation to the way Josh acted at times in 18 and 19, is he really wrong?

 

Not really.  I’ve let go of my vitriol of Brady.  Yeah he’s self absorbed, but he’s also focused, disciplined and at the end of the day a winner.  I came to tolerate him in Tampa as my sons loved what he did for my current city.

 

It was kind of overblown as it’s not that he cursed on national tv.

[teef]

2 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

If we're thinking about the same movie, it was released about 45 years ago... you know, when people with disabilities were still mostly called "handicapped."

meatballs?

[Royale with Cheese]