leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 3 Posted November 3 10 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: To be VERY clear, Leh-nerd, there is no “gift exemption” in an ethical vegan lifestyle. You are to either return the product to the store or give it to someone else, with the idea that this other person receiving the product won’t then have the need to purchase their own. Absent these two options, however, there is no coherent ethical stance against consuming the product yourself. The animal has already suffered, unfortunately. Thank you, Kay, for uh, clarifying there is no room for exemptions in your quest, that you are 100% resolute, absent relevant addendums and omissions per standard legal guidelines to be considered beyond the afore-mentioned gift exemption: 24. My best friend wants to ruin the planet, too, but is low on cash; 25. The store was closed when I went to unpollute. Ironically, it was Earth Day; 10 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Now regarding my personal situation with Juicy Couture, it was a (rather expensive) perfume set that my grandma bought for me as a combined birthday/high school graduation gift. I appreciated the effort she took to find out what kinds of products girls my age might like, and I also didn’t officially become a vegan until college. Furthermore, I was misinformed about Juicy Couture’s 100% cruelty-free stance for several years afterward. Now you COULD argue that I should be giving them to someone else, but to be honest…the various scents still trigger different positive memories from my college years….so you can say that I’m holding on to them for sentimental reasons, even though these perfumes are no longer part of my “regular scent rotation” now that I’m well into my 20’s. 26. My grandma/grandpa/great auuuuhnt gifted it to me; 27. I was young once, but even after I wasn’t, I liked it so I kept it; 28. I can articulate my perspective on climate change, Zionism, the mean temperature of Uranus, and water filtration systems manufactured from sand, an eco-friendly brassiere from Victoria Secret and cactus fibers but someone mislead me on something called “Juicy Couture”; 29. I really like it; 10 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: I think what I’ve always loved most about the Medusa story is the insight it provided into ancient Greek society: everything ranging from their fear of wild snakes to their resentment toward their gods (i.e. fate). I believe Ovid’s conception of Medusa’s hair was 100% snakes and 0% human hair, so these alleged “products used to tame it” would have simply been mice feedings, right? In any event, Leh-nerd, your commentary on housewives narcissistically “yammering” away on life’s trivialities can easily be construed as a deeply misogynistic trope derived from a legacy of patriarchal power systems. I reimagined Ovid’s Medusa, Kay, don’t be trying to hone in on it like you’re Kathy Bates in the new Matlock. Let the fella have this one. If you insist, feel free to play around with something else…Icarus, perhaps, or Pandora’s Box. I reject the notion of misogyny, Kay, that’s a true story and they were Housewives. I didn’t catch which city, so I used creative license while blotting the blood streaming from my ears. The remainder of my story is gender neutral. 10 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Moving on…let’s talk a bit more about my Medusa costume for tonight! Yay!!! So the key feature is neither the coiled serpentine hair, nor the green puffy long-sleeved bodycon dress, nor the gold hosiery, nor the gold heels…it’s all about the eyes, Leh-nerd. Imagine: yellow-colored contact lenses plus a meticulous charcoal-colored eye makeup application that produces the classic doe-like effect, thus making the entire eye region “pop” like a muthaf*cka. You seriously think male partygoers will avert my gaze and avoid turning into stone, Leh-nerd?? You even Medusa Halloween costume, bro??!! When I say “turning into stone,” of course, I’m referring to getting sucked into an hours-long discussion with me on everything ranging from Buffalo Bills superiority over the New Jersey Jests…to climate change-resistant hardwood tree species native to the Adirondacks. As you probably figured, there will be a fair number of Gordon Gekko-wannabe Strong Island frat boy dipsh!ts at this party, not quite prepared for this sassy upstate NY hippy…el oh el. I didn’t really consider the party or venue, Kay. Though, if I had, I’d have gone with Halloween party for faculty, staff and TAs at a JuCo north of Omaha. You’re the adjunct, no doubt lovely and smart, but perhaps a bit top-heavy on serous dialogue considering you’re surrounded by a sexy nun, one ketchup guy, his mustard girlfriend and the short boomer Latin Studies professor dressed up as Frankenstein. Watch him, btw, Kay, his life is 73% over and he’s thinking about Sistrurus Miliarius of another stripe entirely. 10 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said: Anywho…glad to see you here, Leh-nerd! Even though you are smelly MAGA “garbage” at the moment, I still think we can metaphorically pull you out from the trash can, wash you off, and toss you into the recycling bin. Just keep reading my posts and think deeply about what I say. Every word of mine has intention. <<< Narrator: Kay suddenly slithers away from Two Bills Drive. Leh-nerd checks his watch and realizes his entire afternoon has passed. >>> <<< Other Narrator: reminds the original Narrator to partly reassure Leh-nerd that tonight is daylight savings! >>> I read quickly, but I do love a good read. Hope your party was Μεγάλη διασκέδαση. 1
Andy1 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 13 hours ago, dgrochester55 said: The is no place for that, but i am sure that you probably thought that hilarious when Kathy Griffin ran around with a severed head of Trump. Both parties have idiots doing extreme behavior. The difference is in how the media covers it. If a far right person does something stupid, it is all over the news for weeks on every station. If someone from the far left does something stupid they are either praised for it or it it is swept under the rug by the media and censored online by all big tech except for X. Just for the record - I thought that Griffin stunt was repulsive and stupid. Now can’t you MAGA guys come up with more recent examples of extreme behavior on the left? Like that was years ago. I could talk about the “good people on both sides” comment but that seems like decades ago. Trump has provided so much repulsive material since then, it’s no contest. MAGA world clearly wins for most extreme divisive repulsive behavior. Lets just recap the last week - He is talking about the size of Palmer’s #ick, he is refers to nine rifles pointed to the head of E. Cheney, he pretends to do a B-job on a microphone, he had speakers making racist comments at the MSG rally, he calls our nation a garbage can, he claims the threats from fellow Americans are more dangerous to our nation than the actions of Russia or China and he would use the military against the people. MAGA is fine with all this insanity. Meanwhile old Joe says garbage and Hilary says deplorable 8 yrs ago and they are hurt so much their self esteem is crushed. As far as media goes, there is plenty of right wing stuff out there including the most influential platform of X being run by a Trump surrogate. You all can watch the same story on Fox repeated 24 hrs a day about how evil libs are. Anyone can find any media outlet to suit their tastes. There is no censorship on right wing views so no crying about that. 1
dgrochester55 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Just for the record - I thought that Griffin stunt was repulsive and stupid. Now can’t you MAGA guys come up with more recent examples of extreme behavior on the left? Like that was years ago. I could talk about the “good people on both sides” comment but that seems like decades ago. Trump has provided so much repulsive material since then, it’s no contest. MAGA world clearly wins for most extreme divisive repulsive behavior. Lets just recap the last week - He is talking about the size of Palmer’s #ick, he is refers to nine rifles pointed to the head of E. Cheney, he pretends to do a B-job on a microphone, he had speakers making racist comments at the MSG rally, he calls our nation a garbage can, he claims the threats from fellow Americans are more dangerous to our nation than the actions of Russia or China and he would use the military against the people. MAGA is fine with all this insanity. Meanwhile old Joe says garbage and Hilary says deplorable 8 yrs ago and they are hurt so much their self esteem is crushed. As far as media goes, there is plenty of right wing stuff out there including the most influential platform of X being run by a Trump surrogate. You all can watch the same story on Fox repeated 24 hrs a day about how evil libs are. Anyone can find any media outlet to suit their tastes. There is no censorship on right wing views so no crying about that. Glad you also thought that was dumb. I don't like extreme behavior from both sides. I am not a MAGA or a fan of them, but I think that the authortarian left and media are the bigger threats. I've heard the Trump quotes a million times. I don't like the guy, but I am voting for who would better lead the country. Harris is all over the place and looks nervous and uncertain every time she speaks. She would be a disaster if she got in. That is fine if you disagree with me, but stop assuming that every person voting for Trump is a MAGA. Edited November 3 by dgrochester55 1 1 1
Andy1 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 9 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Glad you also thought that was dumb. I don't like extreme behavior from both sides. I am not a MAGA or a fan of them, but I think that the authortarian left and media are the bigger threats. I've heard the Trump quotes a million times. I don't like the guy, but I am voting for who would better lead the country. Harris is all over the place and looks nervous and uncertain every time she speaks. She would be a disaster if she got in. That is fine if you disagree with me, but stop assuming that every person voting for Trump is a MAGA. Fair point there re Trump voters vs MAGA. You are right about that. I know a lot of people who don’t like either choice and are leaning one way or the other for whatever reason. 3
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Μεγάλη διασκέδαση Save us all some time and translate, comrade 29 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said: Glad you also thought that was dumb. I don't like extreme behavior from both sides. I am not a MAGA or a fan of them, but I think that the authortarian left and media are the bigger threats. I've heard the Trump quotes a million times. I don't like the guy, but I am voting for who would better lead the country. Harris is all over the place and looks nervous and uncertain every time she speaks. She would be a disaster if she got in. That is fine if you disagree with me, but stop assuming that every person voting for Trump is a MAGA. The guys a sociopath 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted November 3 Posted November 3 2 hours ago, dgrochester55 said: Based on your history here, you're kidding yourself. You just posted 8 moronic right wing talking points in one post none of which had a glimmer of independent thought. You're no different from the other posters in this forum who have more in common with Alex Jones than Ronald Reagan. I on the other hand have called out dems plenty of times pointing out what I dont like/things I wished they did differently/better. You may not be as looney as some here- some are likely mentally ill to various degrees- but you've jumped on the same train as them. 57 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Save us all some time and translate, comrade I think that was Greek. Definitely not Russian assuming that's what you were thinking. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 3 Posted November 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Based on your history here, you're kidding yourself. You just posted 8 moronic right wing talking points in one post none of which had a glimmer of independent thought. You're no different from the other posters in this forum who have more in common with Alex Jones than Ronald Reagan. I on the other hand have called out dems plenty of times pointing out what I dont like/things I wished they did differently/better. You may not be as looney as some here- some are likely mentally ill to various degrees- but you've jumped on the same train as them. I think that was Greek. Definitely not Russian assuming that's what you were thinking. Still weird. Looked communist to me. Still want a translation. Don’t you hate it when you’re in a foreign land and they don’t speak English? Edited November 3 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted November 3 Posted November 3 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: Still weird. Looked communist to me. Ah I forgot the new republican mantra of anything I don't understand is communist/socialist. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted November 3 Posted November 3 (edited) 2 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Ah I forgot the new republican mantra of anything I don't understand is communist/socialist. Or I just thought it was Russian it’s all greek to me Edited November 3 by Joe Ferguson forever 1 1
dgrochester55 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 (edited) 9 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Based on your history here, you're kidding yourself. You just posted 8 moronic right wing talking points in one post none of which had a glimmer of independent thought. You're no different from the other posters in this forum who have more in common with Alex Jones than Ronald Reagan. I on the other hand have called out dems plenty of times pointing out what I dont like/things I wished they did differently/better. You may not be as looney as some here- some are likely mentally ill to various degrees- but you've jumped on the same train as them. I think that was Greek. Definitely not Russian assuming that's what you were thinking. Stalking poster's history is creepy, you really shouldn't do that. However, It is true I only recently started posting about politics here and yes it has mostly been critical of the left. Despite that, I am in fact in the middle. I have been critical of both sides and probably would have voted either Kennedy (before he dropped out) or written in Chase Oliver, but seeing a candidate get shot at twice and the media dismissing or minimizing it is what made me pick a side. That is when I started making political posts here. At this point I find TDS people more annoying that MAGA's. Both are equally delusional, but the TDS people have the media backing them and are in your face with the same talking points every day. I tend to go after what I find to be the biggest threat. Questioning the corruption of the government and media is within my rights and there is a lot to question. It is sad to see what the left has become. When I was young they were all about freedom of speech and questioning authority. As soon as they got more power ten to fifteen years ago, they went right to being authoritarian and demonizing any questioning of the system. I didn't like it when the Moral majority and PTC acted authoritarian in the 80's and 90's and I don't like it when the far left and media are doing it now. The left leaning posters here match that mentality a lot more than the right leaning ones match the MAGA mentality, hence my post history. At the end of the day we all are making choices because we are doing what we think is right. We are also in agreement that we want to see the fish get squished in a few hours. Edited November 3 by dgrochester55
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 3 Posted November 3 11 hours ago, Andy1 said: Just for the record - I thought that Griffin stunt was repulsive and stupid. Now can’t you MAGA guys come up with more recent examples of extreme behavior on the left? Like that was years ago. I could talk about the “good people on both sides” comment but that seems like decades ago. Trump has provided so much repulsive material since then, it’s no contest. MAGA world clearly wins for most extreme divisive repulsive behavior. Lets just recap the last week - He is talking about the size of Palmer’s #ick, he is refers to nine rifles pointed to the head of E. Cheney, he pretends to do a B-job on a microphone, he had speakers making racist comments at the MSG rally, he calls our nation a garbage can, he claims the threats from fellow Americans are more dangerous to our nation than the actions of Russia or China and he would use the military against the people. MAGA is fine with all this insanity. Meanwhile old Joe says garbage and Hilary says deplorable 8 yrs ago and they are hurt so much their self esteem is crushed. As far as media goes, there is plenty of right wing stuff out there including the most influential platform of X being run by a Trump surrogate. You all can watch the same story on Fox repeated 24 hrs a day about how evil libs are. Anyone can find any media outlet to suit their tastes. There is no censorship on right wing views so no crying about that. Other than the multiple assassination attempts and things like the current president threatening to kick some ass, the current gov of NY suggesting you’re unAmerican if you don’t fall in line, and scores of other incidents, obviously the only thing liberals have ever done is that one stray beheading video back in the 1970s. Btw on the governor of NY…she replaced Andrew Cuomo. Sexual harasser to the point he got bounced out of office….cooker of COVID death books…placed critically ill patients in nursing homes….do you think she was completely unaware and blindsided by all that? Do you feel as AC’s closest confidant, she should be allowed a free pass? 1
Andy1 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 3 hours ago, dgrochester55 said: At the end of the day we all are making choices because we are doing what we think is right. We are also in agreement that we want to see the fish get squished in a few hours. 100% 1
Motorin' Posted November 3 Posted November 3 (edited) 14 hours ago, Andy1 said: Just for the record - I thought that Griffin stunt was repulsive and stupid. Now can’t you MAGA guys come up with more recent examples of extreme behavior on the left? Like that was years ago. I could talk about the “good people on both sides” comment but that seems like decades ago. Trump has provided so much repulsive material since then, it’s no contest. MAGA world clearly wins for most extreme divisive repulsive behavior. Lets just recap the last week - He is talking about the size of Palmer’s #ick, he is refers to nine rifles pointed to the head of E. Cheney, he pretends to do a B-job on a microphone, he had speakers making racist comments at the MSG rally, he calls our nation a garbage can, he claims the threats from fellow Americans are more dangerous to our nation than the actions of Russia or China and he would use the military against the people. MAGA is fine with all this insanity. Meanwhile old Joe says garbage and Hilary says deplorable 8 yrs ago and they are hurt so much their self esteem is crushed. As far as media goes, there is plenty of right wing stuff out there including the most influential platform of X being run by a Trump surrogate. You all can watch the same story on Fox repeated 24 hrs a day about how evil libs are. Anyone can find any media outlet to suit their tastes. There is no censorship on right wing views so no crying about that. You must of missed half of America's campuses being taken over by leftists cos-playing as Hamas, chanting "Death to Israel, Death to America!" You must have missed the big Chicago pro-Hamas leftist rally cheering Iran's missile attack on Israel. You must have missed that those missiles and other terrorist attacks were paid for by money the Biden admin released to Iran. Edited November 3 by Motorin' 1
Unforgiven Posted November 3 Posted November 3 I love being called names. It doesn't bother me in the slightest bit being called garbage, in fact if one of those idiots called me garbage I would truly just laugh in their face. That's what the fragile mentally ill left don't get: these morons are fueled by irrational beliefs and feelings. 1
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