Deplorables Redux: Biden Calls Half The Electorate "Garbage"

[4th&long]

 

[dgrochester55]

9 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Few mentions of this but this is the biggest story of the day.  Even for trump, it's shocking.  Because of SCOTUS he could get away with it

 

 

Not a death threat. You already know this. Anyone who says that it is is either lying out of desperation or has piss poor reading comprehension. Which is it in your case?

 

 

Edited Saturday at 04:34 AM by dgrochester55

[Orlando Buffalo]

6 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

Not a death threat. You already know this. Anyone who says that it is is either lying out of desperation or has piss poor reading comprehension. Which is it in your case?

 

 

He can't read well, this happens all the time with him. 

[4th&long]

Don’t call us garbage.

 

[Andy1]

4 minutes ago, 4th&long said:

Don’t call us garbage.

 

They are a bunch of bipolar sensitive snowflakes. Forever scarred by the terms deplorable and garbage but just fine with hang Mike Pence and Polosi and stunts like this. 

[dgrochester55]

17 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

They are a bunch of bipolar sensitive snowflakes. Forever scarred by the terms deplorable and garbage but just fine with hang Mike Pence and Polosi and stunts like this. 

 

The is no place for that, but i am sure that you probably thought that hilarious when Kathy Griffin ran around with a severed head of Trump.

 

Both parties have idiots doing extreme behavior. The difference is in how the media covers it. If a far right person does something stupid, it is all over the news for weeks on every station. If someone from the far left does something stupid they are either praised for it or it it is swept under the rug by the media and censored online by all big tech except for X.

 

 

Edited Saturday at 12:48 PM by dgrochester55

[BillsFanNC]

Yeah, they tried to hang Mike Pence!!!

 

Those responsible for the gallows should be brought to justice. 

 

Right Andy?

 

Strangely, just like with the DNC/RNC pipe bomber, the FBI is flummoxed on this one too. 

 

Weird.

 

And 6:45 am? Those were some very prescient MAGA supporters who predicted that Pence wouldn't do as told.

 

And one in the crew came back later in the morning to put up the noose. Clear pictures exist of this man.

 

The FBI?  Baffled. 

 

Weird.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Saturday at 01:02 PM by BillsFanNC

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:

He can't read well, this happens all the time with him. 

you can't write.  pretty sad for a teacher.

[Tommy Callahan]

33 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Yeah, they tried to hang Mike Pence!!!

 

Those responsible for the gallows should be brought to justice. 

 

Right Andy?

 

Strangely, just like with the DNC/RNC pipe bomber, the FBI is flummoxed on this one too. 

 

Weird.

 

And 6:45 am? Those were some very prescient MAGA supporters who predicted that Pence wouldn't do as told.

 

And one in the crew came back later in the morning to put up the noose. Clear pictures exist of this man.

 

The FBI?  Baffled. 

 

Weird.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Smollett or some of the Undercovers in the crowd.  

 

 

[ComradeKayAdams]

On 10/31/2024 at 7:29 AM, 4th&long said:

Great post as always Kay. The problem with it is the people it was written for won’t understand most of it, it will go right over their head!

 

Thanks, Pete! Good to see you around these parts! You still visit BillsFans.com?

 

On 10/31/2024 at 8:08 AM, OrangeBills said:

The quick answer to your rant is that Socialism (which all that is hook/sinker) has never worked anywhere and it will never work anywhere.

 

Next?

 

Points # 1, 2, 3, 6, and 7 have absolutely NOTHING to do with “workers owning the means of production.” Not even tangentially.

 

Point # 4 is a caustic rebuke of laissez-faire economics. Um…quite the egregious logical fallacy to conclude that such a rebuke is advocacy for socialism, no?? There’s a lot of middle ground between the two! I personally advocate only for social democracy at the national level, although I’ll also note that we do have plenty of evidence of democratic socialism succeeding at the very local level and for specific economic goods markets.

 

Point # 5 is absolutely a call for greater government involvement in the American health care system. But if you somehow consider the adoption of something like a universal health care system as the acceptance of socialism, then you are also conceding that LITERALLY THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD are thriving bastions of socialism.

 

Point # 8, on its surface, is simply about accepting a well-established subfield of the natural sciences. While the usual discursive corollary to this is a necessary call for more government intervention into the free markets (in the form of publicly funded R+D, energy/transportation public works projects, Keynesian stimulus bills for select companies, etc.), so to properly address the magnitude of the climate crisis in a timely manner, this is all still a far cry from a call for actual socialism. Now we COULD have a meaningful discussion on the nature of land/resource ownership in a modern society, but that might also require too many sentences for MAGA to read. I already assumed most of you MAGA types long ago stopped reading what I’m typing right now…

 

 

On 10/31/2024 at 4:29 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Welcome back, Kay.  It's always nice to be involved in a conversation, even if only by asteriskical addendum. 

 

I had forgotten about the discussion on perfumes and complicity on hot button issues, that was quite some time ago.  I am pleased to see my comments landed, and that after all this time what I shared resonates enough to warrant a mention.  I think many people find they gain wisdom with experience,  and the ability to revisit that which they once knew to be true.  I can appreciate your steadfast denial of hypocrisy, what I've offered is in contrast with that which you may well value most--your integrity.  Still, the challenge and conflict between what you say and what you do is yours to carry, not mine.  I can only point out the obvious and hope that with the fullness of time, we both can grow.  Sounds like we're both on a journey here. 

 

On a positive note, I've gained wisdom as well.  Before today, I was unaware of the "I got a gift!" exemption to the liberal list of "Issues Important to Our Collective Survival".  I suppose when the seas rise to uncomfortable levels on the coast, those impacted can take solace in the fact that somewhere, there's a well-intentioned revolutionary who smells kinda nice, or drives a full-sized honkin' SUV she gifted herself for her 40th birthday.  

 

Now, on this costume.  I mean, sure, "...not 100% cruelty-free..." sounds an awful lot like 100% cruelty to whatever animals they test on, but let's move past that.  Halloween is a pretty darn important day in the grand scheme of things, so if you're going to bend some rules and a couple lab rats have to be blinded, this is the time to do it. 

 

I loved the story of Medusa as a child, and it sounds like you've put a lot of thought into it.  I wonder though, if the story was written today...would Ovid apply a different spin?  I'm thinking in 2024, the peril associated with Medusa was less about hair and snakes, more about sustained yammering about her hair and the products used to tame it?  Perhaps this time, the poet offers the valiant warriors the option of turning to stone not as a tragic fate, but as a reward for their bravery?   Admittedly this occurs to me because I woke up one night not long ago and my wife had the Housewives of Yammerville on the telly and they were round-tabling agitatedly over some slight or the other.  

 

Hope the party goes well!

 

To be VERY clear, Leh-nerd, there is no “gift exemption” in an ethical vegan lifestyle. You are to either return the product to the store or give it to someone else, with the idea that this other person receiving the product won’t then have the need to purchase their own. Absent these two options, however, there is no coherent ethical stance against consuming the product yourself. The animal has already suffered, unfortunately.

 

Now regarding my personal situation with Juicy Couture, it was a (rather expensive) perfume set that my grandma bought for me as a combined birthday/high school graduation gift. I appreciated the effort she took to find out what kinds of products girls my age might like, and I also didn’t officially become a vegan until college. Furthermore, I was misinformed about Juicy Couture’s 100% cruelty-free stance for several years afterward. Now you COULD argue that I should be giving them to someone else, but to be honest…the various scents still trigger different positive memories from my college years….so you can say that I’m holding on to them for sentimental reasons, even though these perfumes are no longer part of my “regular scent rotation” now that I’m well into my 20’s.

 

I think what I’ve always loved most about the Medusa story is the insight it provided into ancient Greek society: everything ranging from their fear of wild snakes to their resentment toward their gods (i.e. fate). I believe Ovid’s conception of Medusa’s hair was 100% snakes and 0% human hair, so these alleged “products used to tame it” would have simply been mice feedings, right? In any event, Leh-nerd, your commentary on housewives narcissistically “yammering” away on life’s trivialities can easily be construed as a deeply misogynistic trope derived from a legacy of patriarchal power systems.

 

Moving on…let’s talk a bit more about my Medusa costume for tonight! Yay!!! So the key feature is neither the coiled serpentine hair, nor the green puffy long-sleeved bodycon dress, nor the gold hosiery, nor the gold heels…it’s all about the eyes, Leh-nerd. Imagine: yellow-colored contact lenses plus a meticulous charcoal-colored eye makeup application that produces the classic doe-like effect, thus making the entire eye region “pop” like a muthaf*cka. You seriously think male partygoers will avert my gaze and avoid turning into stone, Leh-nerd?? You even Medusa Halloween costume, bro??!! When I say “turning into stone,” of course, I’m referring to getting sucked into an hours-long discussion with me on everything ranging from Buffalo Bills superiority over the New Jersey Jests…to climate change-resistant hardwood tree species native to the Adirondacks. As you probably figured, there will be a fair number of Gordon Gekko-wannabe Strong Island frat boy dipsh!ts at this party, not quite prepared for this sassy upstate NY hippy…el oh el.

 

Anywho…glad to see you here, Leh-nerd! Even though you are smelly MAGA “garbage” at the moment, I still think we can metaphorically pull you out from the trash can, wash you off, and toss you into the recycling bin. Just keep reading my posts and think deeply about what I say. Every word of mine has intention.

 

<<< Narrator: Kay suddenly slithers away from Two Bills Drive. Leh-nerd checks his watch and realizes his entire afternoon has passed. >>>

<<< Other Narrator: reminds the original Narrator to partly reassure Leh-nerd that tonight is daylight savings! >>>

[4th&long]

2 minutes ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Thanks, Pete! Good to see you around these parts! You still visit BillsFans.com?

 

 

Points # 1, 2, 3, 6, and 7 have absolutely NOTHING to do with “workers owning the means of production.” Not even tangentially.

 

Point # 4 is a caustic rebuke of laissez-faire economics. Um…quite the egregious logical fallacy to conclude that such a rebuke is advocacy for socialism, no?? There’s a lot of middle ground between the two! I personally advocate only for social democracy at the national level, although I’ll also note that we do have plenty of evidence of democratic socialism succeeding at the very local level and for specific economic goods markets.

 

Point # 5 is absolutely a call for greater government involvement in the American health care system. But if you somehow consider the adoption of something like a universal health care system as the acceptance of socialism, then you are also conceding that LITERALLY THE REST OF THE INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD are thriving bastions of socialism.

 

Point # 8, on its surface, is simply about accepting a well-established subfield of the natural sciences. While the usual discursive corollary to this is a necessary call for more government intervention into the free markets (in the form of publicly funded R+D, energy/transportation public works projects, Keynesian stimulus bills for select companies, etc.), so to properly address the magnitude of the climate crisis in a timely manner, this is all still a far cry from a call for actual socialism. Now we COULD have a meaningful discussion on the nature of land/resource ownership in a modern society, but that might also require too many sentences for MAGA to read. I already assumed most of you MAGA types long ago stopped reading what I’m typing right now…

 

 

 

To be VERY clear, Leh-nerd, there is no “gift exemption” in an ethical vegan lifestyle. You are to either return the product to the store or give it to someone else, with the idea that this other person receiving the product won’t then have the need to purchase their own. Absent these two options, however, there is no coherent ethical stance against consuming the product yourself. The animal has already suffered, unfortunately.

 

Now regarding my personal situation with Juicy Couture, it was a (rather expensive) perfume set that my grandma bought for me as a combined birthday/high school graduation gift. I appreciated the effort she took to find out what kinds of products girls my age might like, and I also didn’t officially become a vegan until college. Furthermore, I was misinformed about Juicy Couture’s 100% cruelty-free stance for several years afterward. Now you COULD argue that I should be giving them to someone else, but to be honest…the various scents still trigger different positive memories from my college years….so you can say that I’m holding on to them for sentimental reasons, even though these perfumes are no longer part of my “regular scent rotation” now that I’m well into my 20’s.

 

I think what I’ve always loved most about the Medusa story is the insight it provided into ancient Greek society: everything ranging from their fear of wild snakes to their resentment toward their gods (i.e. fate). I believe Ovid’s conception of Medusa’s hair was 100% snakes and 0% human hair, so these alleged “products used to tame it” would have simply been mice feedings, right? In any event, Leh-nerd, your commentary on housewives narcissistically “yammering” away on life’s trivialities can easily be construed as a deeply misogynistic trope derived from a legacy of patriarchal power systems.

 

Moving on…let’s talk a bit more about my Medusa costume for tonight! Yay!!! So the key feature is neither the coiled serpentine hair, nor the green puffy long-sleeved bodycon dress, nor the gold hosiery, nor the gold heels…it’s all about the eyes, Leh-nerd. Imagine: yellow-colored contact lenses plus a meticulous charcoal-colored eye makeup application that produces the classic doe-like effect, thus making the entire eye region “pop” like a muthaf*cka. You seriously think male partygoers will avert my gaze and avoid turning into stone, Leh-nerd?? You even Medusa Halloween costume, bro??!! When I say “turning into stone,” of course, I’m referring to getting sucked into an hours-long discussion with me on everything ranging from Buffalo Bills superiority over the New Jersey Jests…to climate change-resistant hardwood tree species native to the Adirondacks. As you probably figured, there will be a fair number of Gordon Gekko-wannabe Strong Island frat boy dipsh!ts at this party, not quite prepared for this sassy upstate NY hippy…el oh el.

 

Anywho…glad to see you here, Leh-nerd! Even though you are smelly MAGA “garbage” at the moment, I still think we can metaphorically pull you out from the trash can, wash you off, and toss you into the recycling bin. Just keep reading my posts and think deeply about what I say. Every word of mine has intention.

 

<<< Narrator: Kay suddenly slithers away from Two Bills Drive. Leh-nerd checks his watch and realizes his entire afternoon has passed. >>>

<<< Other Narrator: reminds the original Narrator to partly reassure Leh-nerd that tonight is daylight savings! >>>

No. I haven’t logged onto that board in months. There are a few people I like over there and didn’t want to cause too much trouble for them. I like some of the other discussion over their that is not football or political, so I took a break from it and just haven’t gone back. Maybe sometime I’ll look to see what’s going on. Overall I found that board to be a major turnoff tho. 

[dgrochester55]

What I have learned from the democrat side of the 2024 election campaign.

 

•  Things went great over the last four years under Biden and the economy was better than ever, but if we elect Harris, she is going to fix the mess that Biden created.

•  You don't need competition in a primary and can hand pick another candidate if your first one is losing, and we should abolish or expand the supreme court, but Trump is a threat to democracy

•  Assassination attempts aren't a big deal unless they are successful

•  Social media platforms that censor one side support freedom of speech, but platforms that allow both sides to speak are full of hate

•  It is okay for the elite to be  ultra rich if they donate to the Harris campaign, but if they support Trump or even act neutral, they must be stopped and boycotted at all costs

• Blatant lies in the media are perfectly okay as long as there is a retraction in small print on page 10 after the relevance of the topic has passed.

• It was funny to call Dick Cheney a war monger for eight years during Bush's presidency, but if Trump says it just once about Liz, it is a death threat

 

• Most importantly, you don't need a platform when you have 90 percent of the media and Hollywood campaign for you at no cost and smear the other side. When they want the opinion of the masses, they will give it to them.

 

Edit: Quick shout to Joe Ferguson Forever and L Ron Burgundy for taking the time to let me know that they enjoyed the joke and found it funny by using the laugh emoji.  Thank you.

 

Edited Saturday at 11:46 PM by dgrochester55

[B-Man]

 

 

                                                        

 

 

 

 

 

[Steve O]

1 hour ago, dgrochester55 said:

What I have learned from the democrat side of the 2024 election campaign.

• Blatant lies in the media are perfectly okay as long as there is a retraction in small print on page 10 after the relevance of the topic has passed. they work.

Actually this one was part of the 2012 playbook.

Harry Reid in 2012: “So the word is out that he [meaning Romney] has not paid any taxes for ten years. Let him prove that he has paid taxes, because he hasn’t.”

Reid in 2017: “Romney didn’t win, did he?”

[4th&long]

 

[BillsFanNC]

 

[L Ron Burgundy]

6 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:

What I have learned from the democrat side of the 2024 election campaign.

 

•  Things went great over the last four years under Biden and the economy was better than ever, but if we elect Harris, she is going to fix the mess that Biden created.

•  You don't need competition in a primary and can hand pick another candidate if your first one is losing, and we should abolish or expand the supreme court, but Trump is a threat to democracy

•  Assassination attempts aren't a big deal unless they are successful

•  Social media platforms that censor one side support freedom of speech, but platforms that allow both sides to speak are full of hate

•  It is okay for the elite to be  ultra rich if they donate to the Harris campaign, but if they support Trump or even act neutral, they must be stopped and boycotted at all costs

• Blatant lies in the media are perfectly okay as long as there is a retraction in small print on page 10 after the relevance of the topic has passed.

• It was funny to call Dick Cheney a war monger for eight years during Bush's presidency, but if Trump says it just once about Liz, it is a death threat

 

• Most importantly, you don't need a platform when you have 90 percent of the media and Hollywood campaign for you at no cost and smear the other side. When they want the opinion of the masses, they will give it to them.

 

 

Well done you swallowed the right wing load successfully.  I assume you're wearing the red hat and camo?  How are you doing with believing conspiracy theories?  Have you found the elusive voter fraud all your zombie pals are looking for oh so hard?   Yes the dems are cheating (even though your guy had a literal plot to overturn the election) !  

 

I'm just going to address the dumbest of the dumb.  This below.  Kamala has no platform?  She's the only one that has one and outlined policies for it.  I know once you swallowed the truth ceased being important to you.  This is mainly for those posters who still live in reality.    

 

• Most importantly, you don't need a platform when you have 90 percent of the media and Hollywood campaign for you at no cost and smear the other side. When they want the opinion of the masses, they will give it to them.

[dgrochester55]

1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Well done you swallowed the right wing load successfully.  I assume you're wearing the red hat and camo?  How are you doing with believing conspiracy theories?  Have you found the elusive voter fraud all your zombie pals are looking for oh so hard?   Yes the dems are cheating (even though your guy had a literal plot to overturn the election) !  

 

I'm just going to address the dumbest of the dumb.  This below.  Kamala has no platform?  She's the only one that has one and outlined policies for it.  I know once you swallowed the truth ceased being important to you.  This is mainly for those posters who still live in reality.    

 

• Most importantly, you don't need a platform when you have 90 percent of the media and Hollywood campaign for you at no cost and smear the other side. When they want the opinion of the masses, they will give it to them.

 

Can I get your opinion next time instead of an excerpt from CNN?

[L Ron Burgundy]

16 minutes ago, dgrochester55 said:

 

Can I get your opinion next time instead of an excerpt from CNN?

 

I didn't list any opinion.  Only fact.  I get you stopped recognizing those so you'll never comprehend any of this.  I don't watch CNN but I guarantee, 100% chance, they are more accurate than where you get news/info.  My opinions are at least my own, yours were clearly fed to you as your entire post had not one original thought.  If you were in a lemming olympics you'd win gold.

 

 

[dgrochester55]

28 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

"I didn't list any opinion.  Only fact.  I get you stopped recognizing those so you'll never comprehend any of this.  I don't watch CNN but I guarantee, 100% chance, they are more accurate than where you get news/info.  My opinions are at least my own, yours were clearly fed to you as your entire post had not one original thought.  If you were in a lemming olympics you'd win gold."

 

 

 

My primary News Source is News Nation, I also look at others sites like Reuters, WSJ and The Hill. I look at Fox and CNN a little just to get a better idea of what propaganda I might expect from people who I discuss politics with.

 

I am independent, inherently conservative, but have a moderate or even liberal view on some topics. I promise you that my opinion is more my own than yours, at least based on your posts. 

 

 

 

Edited Sunday at 12:34 AM by dgrochester55