CincyBillsFan Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Lost said: How it is possible to have negative separation? Yes, it's called an Interception. Quote
ganesh Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 hours ago, Roundybout said: Like really bad. I’m glad Coleman can get jump balls because yikes. I still feel that we’re missing a true burner, someone for Josh to just chuck it and let him run underneath it. We never had one of those since John Brown Quote
Sojourner Posted October 30 Posted October 30 That Houston game really nerfed the accuracy rate for Josh. Woof. 2 Quote
EasternOHBillsFan Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) Shakir is the best receiver we have ever had by catch percentage... his ability in this area is simply uncanny. Normally HBs and TEs dominate this stat, but Shakir is like a Hoover vacuum. 86.7% last year and 94.7% this year for catch percentage is outer worldly! Separation, shmeparation if you can catch... Edited October 30 by EasternOHBillsFan 2 1 1 Quote
GASabresIUFan Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 hours ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Dear God, some fans just need something to complain about. Isn't that your job? Quote
ToGoGo Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) I disagree with some posters. I think this stat has some bite to it. We’ll see if Brady can continue to scheme the WRs open if they’re not creating separation. Edited October 30 by ToGoGo 1 Quote
Augie Posted October 30 Posted October 30 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: Like really bad. I’m glad Coleman can get jump balls because yikes. I still feel that we’re missing a true burner, someone for Josh to just chuck it and let him run underneath it. The true burner comes in the offseason. Maybe with more than one shot. I trust in the roster building. 1 Quote
NickelCity Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Keon gets his in his own way. Cooper gets separation. Shakir does too. The three of them healthy and playing transforms our passing game. No Shakir no Cooper is not something I want to see again... Quote
NewEra Posted October 30 Posted October 30 3 hours ago, Roundybout said: Like really bad. I’m glad Coleman can get jump balls because yikes. I still feel that we’re missing a true burner, someone for Josh to just chuck it and let him run underneath it. Sucks to be you. I’m happy. I’m enjoying it. Stew in misery more 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 30 Posted October 30 So if the corner plays off coverage, does that count as “separation?” what if the receiver has separation at some point in the route but not at another point? this stat seems so fishy. 1 Quote
Big Turk Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Have seemed to have plenty of separation the last two weeks. 2 1 Quote
GaryPinC Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 hours ago, Lost said: How it is possible to have negative separation? I believe that's called penetration. Thankfully I've never witnessed it during a football game. Quote
34-78-83 Posted October 30 Posted October 30 3 hours ago, Simon said: I do not believe for a second that whoever made this mess had the slightest clue what the hell they were looking at. You have two different QB's listed for both Carolina and Indianapolis. In both cases they are somehow on opposite ends of the separation spectrum? With the same receivers? Bo Nix, Justin Fields and Will Levis are all more accurate than Josh Allen? The entire thing is patently ridiculous. Yep and people lap it up as analytical truth instead of using it as just a tool to enhance/augment what they see with an understanding of the game. Statistical paralysis has taken over the measure of the game because now everyone thinks they can be an expert and feel included in those discussions. Not all separation looks the same, nor can it be measured the same way. 1 1 1 Quote
Shaw66 Posted October 30 Posted October 30 3 hours ago, Lost said: How it is possible to have negative separation? That's when the defender is in you back pocket. 1 hour ago, ToGoGo said: I disagree with some posters. I think this stat has some bite to it. We’ll see if Brady can continue to scheme the WRs open if they’re not creating separation. Sure it does. Separation is important, and stas like this are important to coaches when they're trying to improve performance. However, when you're one of the beat passi g teams in the league, it isn't cause for concern. EVERY team has some negative stays on one category or another. KC is about 20th in passer rating. Quote
VW82 Posted October 30 Posted October 30 The part I’m interested in is to what degree the lack of separation is having an impact on Josh’s waning accuracy this year. His on target percentage is well below any of his prior years outside his rookie season. I I’ve always felt like he needs to see his guy get open to feel fully comfortable. This is why he’s always had more success with good separators like Beasley, Shakir, and Diggs. Some will disagree with this of course, but I bet we start to see his on target percentage improve throughout the rest of the season now that we have better balance across our receiving corps and are subject to less cover one janky defenses. Quote
ganesh Posted October 30 Posted October 30 11 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: That's when the defender is in you back pocket. Sure it does. Separation is important, and stas like this are important to coaches when they're trying to improve performance. However, when you're one of the beat passi g teams in the league, it isn't cause for concern. EVERY team has some negative stays on one category or another. KC is about 20th in passer rating. Like how we were always dead last in YAC for many of the past seasons... Quote
US Egg Posted October 30 Posted October 30 3 hours ago, DaVinci said: This is the stat I care about 6- 2 Always gonna be the stat scouring I told you so no matter what. Quote
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