What does Elam and a pick get you in this market?

[FireChans]

Trade deadline day is coming. Elam sticks out like a sore thumb when it comes to dangling for trade bait. His value is shot for the most part, but he has at least a first round prospect pedigree. I can imagine there's a team or two that may gamble on his upside along with a pick.

 

Looking at the NFL landscape, Titans, Panthers, Browns, Saints and Giants look to be potential sellers in this market. I am excluding the Jets and the Pats as they are divisional rivals and would be unlikely to make any kind of trade with us. Here are some of the players I would have interest in.

 

Titans:

 

Jeffrey Simmons.

 

A true elite force on the DL. 1.5 years removed from back to back All-Pro teams. Was injured to end the year last year and the Titans are an actual disaster. I think Elam + 1st gets this done and is probably close to fair value.

 

Browns:

 

Myles Garrett or Wyatt Teller

 

Garrett's resume speaks for itself.  He does seem to be picking up nagging injuries every year but hey, he's still elite.  I don't think Elam + 1st gets this done, probably need a second or third at least.

 

Wyatt Teller is a good OG. He's not worth Elam and a first.  Browns probably jump at that. Elam and a 4th or two though? Tough call.

 

Panthers:

 

There is no one on this roster worth a first.  There are a few player barely worth Elam and stuff. Pass.

 

Saints:

 

Mathieu or Lattimore

 

Mathieu may be worth Elam with a late round pick swap. Still a good safety but lots of tread. He has been considerably healthy.  I am intrigued by this one.

 

Lattimore is still a great CB, but he's more of a man corner. Would probably take Elam and at least a second, and we don't have a CB need/not a great system fit. Pass

 

Giants:

 

Darius Slayton

Free Darius Slayton.  For real.  This guy is Darnell Mooney 2.0, a solid WR who is absolutely languishing with a bad QB. Elam and a 4th/5th gets this done I think?  He is good injury insurance and pushes Mack to his more natural role of "gunner."

 

Who do you guys got?

[PetermansRedemption]

I highly doubt our bust is getting much of anything. But out of that list, I’d go after Myles Garret and do Elam+1st+2nd. 

Edited October 29 by PetermansRedemption

[davefan66]

I feel you could get a player like Amari Cooper and that teams 6th for our third round pick and Elam.

[turbo044]

Nothing - you keep him for depth in case Bedford or Douglas get hurt 

[Beast]

Look for a DT or Safety, in that order.

[nedboy7]

We ain't trading Elam.  He is next year's CB2. 

[Sojourner]

Giants are not trading for him, that’s for sure. That team is absolutely saturated with DB’s on their roster and PS. The ones on the roster are the same level or better than Elam. 
 

Out of your options listed the only 2 that would be worth getting rid of our depth would be Simmons or Matthieu. 
 

 

Edited October 29 by Sojourner

[GolfandBills]

Later round pick.  Better off just keeping him for good depth 

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

The Kaiir Elam situation is just bizarre.

 

He's apparently not good enough to play and has been passed by guys like Ja'Marcus Ingram and Cam Lewis on the depth chart, yet he's not bad enough to get cut. 

 

He's also not good enough to at least showcase in the 4th quarter of a blowout to raise his trade value.

 

He hasn't gotten in trouble off the field and doesn't have a clear reason to be in the doghouse with the coaching staff.

 

He plays relatively well in spot duty and seemed to up his game in the playoffs.

 

Kaiir Elam is an enigma.

[Albany,n.y.]

Elam & a 2025 7th gets you a 2025 6th.  

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I highly doubt our bust is getting much of anything. But out of that list, I’d go after Myles Garret and do Elam+1st+2nd. 

Elam on his own is worth little, I agree. However, this is a league where former first round picks do sometimes garner more comp than they should, because of their pedigree.

 

Toney was traded 2 games into year two for a 3rd and a 6th. Jeff Okudah was traded for a fifth after being a massive injured bust in Detroit. CJ Henderson was traded with a fifth for a third rounder.

 

None of them particularly worked out, but you just have to find a sucker.

[Sojourner]

Just now, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said:

The Kaiir Elam situation is just bizarre.

 

He's apparently not good enough to play and has been passed by guys like Ja'Marcus Ingram and Cam Lewis on the depth chart, yet he's not bad enough to get cut. 

 

He's also not good enough to at least showcase in the 4th quarter of a blowout to raise his trade value.

 

He hasn't gotten in trouble off the field and doesn't have a clear reason to be in the doghouse with the coaching staff.

 

He plays relatively well in spot duty and seemed to up his game in the playoffs.

 

Kaiir Elam is an enigma.

Our very own Amelia Earhart. Lost in the Buffalo Triangle

[FireChans]

6 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:

We ain't trading Elam.  He is next year's CB2. 

Feel this has been said about Kaiir every year he has played lol. Next year is never coming.

12 minutes ago, turbo044 said:

Nothing - you keep him for depth in case Bedford or Douglas get hurt 

Jamarcus Ingram starts if Benford or Douglas gets hurt imo.

[Jauronimo]

Elam and 5 firsts might get us Mahomes.  Then we can stash him on the depth chart and not have to play him in January.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

16 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Trade deadline day is coming. Elam sticks out like a sore thumb when it comes to dangling for trade bait. His value is shot for the most part, but he has at least a first round prospect pedigree. I can imagine there's a team or two that may gamble on his upside along with a pick.

 

Looking at the NFL landscape, Titans, Panthers, Browns, Saints and Giants look to be potential sellers in this market. I am excluding the Jets and the Pats as they are divisional rivals and would be unlikely to make any kind of trade with us. Here are some of the players I would have interest in.

 

Titans:

 

Jeffrey Simmons.

 

A true elite force on the DL. 1.5 years removed from back to back All-Pro teams. Was injured to end the year last year and the Titans are an actual disaster. I think Elam + 1st gets this done and is probably close to fair value.

 

Browns:

 

Myles Garrett or Wyatt Teller

 

Garrett's resume speaks for itself.  He does seem to be picking up nagging injuries every year but hey, he's still elite.  I don't think Elam + 1st gets this done, probably need a second or third at least.

 

Wyatt Teller is a good OG. He's not worth Elam and a first.  Browns probably jump at that. Elam and a 4th or two though? Tough call.

 

Panthers:

 

There is no one on this roster worth a first.  There are a few player barely worth Elam and stuff. Pass.

 

Saints:

 

Mathieu or Lattimore

 

Mathieu may be worth Elam with a late round pick swap. Still a good safety but lots of tread. He has been considerably healthy.  I am intrigued by this one.

 

Lattimore is still a great CB, but he's more of a man corner. Would probably take Elam and at least a second, and we don't have a CB need/not a great system fit. Pass

 

Giants:

 

Darius Slayton

Free Darius Slayton.  For real.  This guy is Darnell Mooney 2.0, a solid WR who is absolutely languishing with a bad QB. Elam and a 4th/5th gets this done I think?  He is good injury insurance and pushes Mack to his more natural role of "gunner."

 

Who do you guys got?

Why would you want Teller? We have two cheap good guards now.

 

Now the Browns are interesting because Denzel Ward just suffered his 6th yes 6th concussion and at least 2nd this season.

 

Elam straight up for ZaDarius Smith would be a nice trade. Smith is on a one year deal and $9M of the $11M was already paid in signing bonus.  He has 5 sacks and is a good player though he is 32. 

[Albany,n.y.]

9 minutes ago, Sojourner said:

Giants are not trading for him, that’s for sure. That team is absolutely saturated with DB’s on their roster and PS. The ones on the roster are the same level or better than Elam. 
 

Out of your options listed the only 2 that would be worth getting rid of our depth would be Simmons or Matthieu. 
 

 

I don't know, I think the Giants are trying to field a team of 53 ex-Bills.  When I saw Matt Haack punting for the Giants last night, I figured Daboll & Schoen believe their team needs to be one big Bills reunion. 

Edited October 29 by Albany,n.y.

[FireChans]

Just now, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Why would you want Teller? We have two cheap good guards now.

 

Now the Browns are interesting because Denzel Ward just suffered his 6th yes 6th concussion and at least 2nd this season.

 

Elam straight up for ZaDarius Smith would be a nice trade. Smith is on a one year deal and $9M of the $11M was already paid in signing bonus.  He has 5 sacks and is a good player though he is 32. 

I think Teller is an upgrade on OCT, personally. IMO, he's our weakest OL player by quite a bit.

 

Good call on Zadarius Smith.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

I think Teller is an upgrade on OCT, personally. IMO, he's our weakest OL player by quite a bit.

 

Good call on Zadarius Smith.

OCT is playing better but the was the worst starter games 1-3. I'm betting he has a great second half.

If one of the guards was hurt then yes Teller would be a nice guy to try and get.

[MarkyMannn]

6 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Elam & a 2025 7th gets you a 2025 6th.  

Honestly you're probably right

[MJS]

Elam is not worth anything. Maybe a 2026 late round pick. His value could not be any lower. He is more valuable to the Bills than anyone because he is on his rookie deal. Next year, Douglas might walk and it will be Elam's chance to claim a starting role and show how much he has been able to develop. Or, he'll fail and just go down as a bust.