GETTOTHE50 Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Man, we got ripped off in the Cooper trade. How is Johnson essentially just a pick swap of nothing? Cooper is much better than DJ Edited 8 hours ago by GETTOTHE50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, Process said: Yea it's really hard to believe that's the best they could get. A lot of WR needy teams out there. Exactly. Even getting a 7th is better than what they got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Does he catch the ball in the cold yet? My understanding is that he has gotten better with it, although I have not seen that with my own eyes. It was an absolute circus in Pittsburgh; one of the quickest WRs you'll ever see in your life yet nobody was afraid of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Baltimore is a scary freaking team. until the playoffs. some things are just true. Dallas is good until December. The Steelers always try really hard and over perform until being exposed. The eagles always choke. the chiefs refs always win cheat. the jets always jet. baltimore will run out of steam in december and run on fumes to the playoffs and flounder. 1 minute ago, Simon said: My understanding is that he has gotten better with it, although I have not seen that with my own eyes. It was an absolute circus in Pittsburgh; one of the quickest WRs you'll ever see in your life yet nobody was afraid of him. maybe that's the hope. they can use him as a gadget guy and when lamar can get him the ball he's going to be able to cruise. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Man, we got ripped off in the Cooper trade. How is Johnson essentially just a pick swap of nothing? Johnson is a slower WR that runs great routes. He gets open short but not someone defenses fear downfield. Cooper is already attracting a safety over top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago How many picks did the Pats get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Very relevant. Look at the money. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 12 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Does he catch the ball in the cold yet? Fwiw, his numbers look like this: 3 TDs in 7 games Averaging about 4 catches for 50 yrds per game Still only bringing in 50% of his targets Missed their last game with a "rib" injury I don't know how much the numbers were affected by QB play and I don't know if he was really hurt or just bubble-wrapped for a trade. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LLCoolCy Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Very relevant. Look at the money. Always follow the money.... No doubt Beane getting the Cooper trade done early was clutch as he's the only move the needle WR that Buffalo could fit into the cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago He’s averaged 6.2 yards per target on the season. Some of that is attributable to poor QB play, but he’s 6.8 for his career. He’s the epitome of a stat collector via volume of targets. He’d be a great pickup for a team like Tampa (or Kansas City pre-Hopkins) who just doesn’t have any healthy targets, but I’m not sure what he does for Baltimore. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) Meh. Never really rated him. I think that is cheap compared to what Carolina paid 6 months ago. Tells you all you need to know about him. Average player, bad teammate. Edited 8 hours ago by GunnerBill 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Process Posted 8 hours ago Author Share Posted 8 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Billl said: He’s averaged 6.2 yards per target on the season. Some of that is attributable to poor QB play, but he’s 6.8 for his career. He’s the epitome of a stat collector via volume of targets. He’d be a great pickup for a team like Tampa (or Kansas City pre-Hopkins) who just doesn’t have any healthy targets, but I’m not sure what he does for Baltimore. I agree with this. I don't think he's enough of an improvement over what they have for it to make a real difference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Simon said: Fwiw, his numbers look like this: 3 TDs in 7 games Averaging about 4 catches for 50 yrds per game Still only bringing in 50% of his targets Missed their last game with a "rib" injury I don't know how much the numbers were affected by QB play and I don't know if he was really hurt or just bubble-wrapped for a trade. All I know is they traded a player and a pick for him in March and now gave him away for basically nothing halfway through the season. Obviously they weren't impressed. The price tag tells you what the rest of the league thought also. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Irv said: How many picks did the Pats get? None, but KC was awarded automatic 1 seed in the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Billl said: He’s averaged 6.2 yards per target on the season. Some of that is attributable to poor QB play, but he’s 6.8 for his career. He’s the epitome of a stat collector via volume of targets. He’d be a great pickup for a team like Tampa (or Kansas City pre-Hopkins) who just doesn’t have any healthy targets, but I’m not sure what he does for Baltimore. I'm only a little spooked by it and just because of his athleticism. If Harbaugh and Co. can turn Lamar Jackson into a viable NFL QB can they do something similar with Johnson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Overrated. The Steelers always get the most out of their receivers. They never seem to be quite the same when they leave Pittsburgh. Amari Cooper is much, much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Simon said: I'm only a little spooked by it and just because of his athleticism. If Harbaugh and Co. can turn Lamar Jackson into a viable NFL QB can they do something similar with Johnson? No worries. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: How do other GMs not up the price on this? I will never understand. Washington? Chargers? Texans? Cowboys? Broncos? Steelers? Buccaneers? All have a need. It was such a low pick swap. 28 minutes ago, Process said: Yea it's really hard to believe that's the best they could get. A lot of WR needy teams out there. 26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Exactly. Even getting a 7th is better than what they got. 13 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: All I know is they traded a player and a pick for him in March and now gave him away for basically nothing halfway through the season. Obviously they weren't impressed. The price tag tells you what the rest of the league thought also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubanmist Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Much rather have this guy over Cooper. Wow! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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