Starr Almighty Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago I think his best season was the season the Bills played Pitt and the Bills got pumped up by the Steelers 4th quarter song and won. Like I said I believe that was his best season and that night vs the Bills he was awful. He drops a lot of pass. I didn't think he was ever good. Perhaps average Quote
UKBillFan Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: He is overrated as a receiver. Bang average. And a nutcase who is no way worth the hassle. He is the kind of player who Reid will bring in for the post season, turn up for a couple of games and help them to another ring. And then be cut. Quote
eball Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago Good lord…why on earth mess with team chemistry and culture by bringing in a malcontent like that? Hard pass. 1 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 13 minutes ago, eball said: Good lord…why on earth mess with team chemistry and culture by bringing in a malcontent like that? Hard pass. All short term signings, hoping for a quick fix or improvement. Like the guy who keeps buying cans of 'Fix a Flat', instead of taking the car down to the tire shop for a proper repair. * Besides, Robert Foster is still available, isn't he? 😁 Edited 21 hours ago by Ridgewaycynic2013 Quote
2003Contenders Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago It is interesting that his career trajectory literally looks like a mountain (or hill) that peaked back in 2021. That is, when he entered the league back in 2019 he progressively got better in terms of targets, receptions and TDs each year until 2021 when he hit his high water mark with 100+ receptions, 1100+ yards and 8 TDs, career highs in every category. Since 2021 he has progressively DECLINED in targets, receptions and yards. So the upside is simply not there to warrant the challenges he presents. Let him become some other team's headache. 1 1 Quote
TheWeatherMan Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, eball said: Good lord…why on earth mess with team chemistry and culture by bringing in a malcontent like that? Hard pass. Agree, but would have no problems with signing him to the PS for injury insurance. Quote
That's No Moon Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said: You must be young... just start watching Football this year did ya? Headcase... probably. Good WR... definitely He drops footballs, isn't terribly fast, and yes is a head case. He is not a "really good WR". 1 Quote
FireChans Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Agree, but would have no problems with signing him to the PS for injury insurance. Bro he just quit on his 2nd team in 3 months. Hes not signing on the PS lol 1 Quote
T master Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Tells us exactly what the Ravens think about OBJ . Quote
Simon Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 8 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: He drops footballs, isn't terribly fast, and yes is a head case. He is not a "really good WR". The only spot where I'd disagree is his athletic ability. While I haven' seen him recently, I saw him plenty in P'burgh and he was literally one of the quickest human beings I have ever seen in my life. He was still a dipstick that couldn't catch a cold, but by gawd could that boy move. 1 Quote
eball Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 36 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Agree, but would have no problems with signing him to the PS for injury insurance. Sends the wrong message to the team. The WR room is tight, and injury free. Why even mess around with this guy? Quote
boyst Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Has to clear a lot of waivers first. And some teams have no choice but to bring him in. I could see Houston, Seattle as playoff teams wanting him I could see New Orleans, Cincinnati, or the Giants bringing him in just to do so. Especially Cinci. Quote
Brand J Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Can we stop talking about this receiver or entertaining thoughts of bringing him in? I said back when he was a Steeler he was the type of guy you’d want to move on from and nothing has changed. In fact it’s gotten worse for him. Quote
brianthomas Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 3 hours ago, T master said: Tells us exactly what the Ravens think about OBJ . after Miami waived OBJ & now the Ravens released Diontae, its definitely possible OBJ goes back to Baltimore, since he's already familiar with their offense. Last year he caught 35 passes for 565 yards & 3 tds for them. With Bateman getting dinged up, I could see him going back there for sure. But I know the fans in Pittsburgh are calling for him to come back, as they have a need at wideout as well. Sean McVay of the Rams already said OBJ's not an option, so that would leave KC as another possible destination. I'd expect some playoff caliber team to kick the tires on him. Especially since Miami released him exactly so he can join someone else... Not many players of his caliber are available this time of year. I doubt he'd want to come here, but I personally wouldn't be against it. He could make just 1 catch as a BILL, but it could be exactly what we need at that time, who knows? He wont make or break a squad at this point. But he still can be a serviceable depth wr in the playoffs for someone. 1 Quote
Doc Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 9 minutes ago, brianthomas said: after Miami waived OBJ & now the Ravens released Diontae, its definitely possible OBJ goes back to Baltimore, since he's already familiar with their offense. Last year he caught 35 passes for 565 yards & 3 tds for them. With Bateman getting dinged up, I could see him going back there for sure. But I know the fans in Pittsburgh are calling for him to come back, as they have a need at wideout as well. Sean McVay of the Rams already said OBJ's not an option, so that would leave KC as another possible destination. I'd expect some playoff caliber team to kick the tires on him. Especially since Miami released him exactly so he can join someone else... Not many players of his caliber are available this time of year. I doubt he'd want to come here, but I personally wouldn't be against it. He could make just 1 catch as a BILL, but it could be exactly what we need at that time, who knows? He wont make or break a squad at this point. But he still can be a serviceable depth wr in the playoffs for someone. Why? He's washed. 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 5 hours ago, 2003Contenders said: It is interesting that his career trajectory literally looks like a mountain (or hill) that peaked back in 2021. That is, when he entered the league back in 2019 he progressively got better in terms of targets, receptions and TDs each year until 2021 when he hit his high water mark with 100+ receptions, 1100+ yards and 8 TDs, career highs in every category. Since 2021 he has progressively DECLINED in targets, receptions and yards. So the upside is simply not there to warrant the challenges he presents. Let him become some other team's headache. Well it’s not coincidence that was Big Ben’s last ride. As much as Ben declined, he could still sling it. Just not to the volume Pittsburgh were asking him to. It was something absurd like an average of 38 attempts per game that season. Johnson saw almost the same targets the following season but the talent @ QB, Pickett & Mitch, is a sizable step down from a poor Big Ben. To the upside not being there statement. Absolutely. That’s too much of a challenge for what the production would/could be. Headache indeed. Quote
That's No Moon Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 4 hours ago, Simon said: The only spot where I'd disagree is his athletic ability. While I haven' seen him recently, I saw him plenty in P'burgh and he was literally one of the quickest human beings I have ever seen in my life. He was still a dipstick that couldn't catch a cold, but by gawd could that boy move. He's quick, not fast. Different things. And the lack of hands are a legitimate problem. Quote
Simon Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Just now, That's No Moon said: He's quick, not fast. Different things. That's fair. He's not slow but his long speed doesn't match his short area quickness. Quote
That's No Moon Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Doc said: Houston. Yup. And if they don't it tells you a LOT about how the league feels about the guy. Quote
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