Never Followed PFF..After This, Never Will

[Utah John]

10 minutes ago, Toomstone.Part.Duex said:

We need to start looking at QB's in round one for 2025.   We should trade up with Carolina and get Sanders.    This PFF rating is unacceptable! 😁

I wonder if we could maybe get a third rounder for Josh?  Or is that unrealistic?  Probably no team would want him.  Maybe as a backup.

 

Screw them all.

[MJS]

26 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

 

Passer rating is better, IMHO, than QBR or PFF grades.  But it also has flaws because it measures efficiency rather than production,

 

For example, if a QB goes 10 for 15 for 150 yards in a game, he'll be rated exactly the same as a QB who goes 20 of 30 for 300 yards.  

 

I would argue the second QB deserves a higher rating because: 

 

(1) he contributed twice as many yards to the team's offense.

 

(2) because he threw twice as much, the defense probably probably played more pass D.  

 

But both QB completed 67% of their passes for 10 yards per attempt - statistically equivalent if you ignore actual production.  

9 times out of 10, though, the more efficient QB is the one who produces more yards and TDs and contributes more to wins.

 

Football games almost always push the QB to produce, so their efficiency numbers are going to be a good gauge most of the time. Is it perfect? No. That's why to truly understand how a QB played, you have to take a variety of metrics into account, and probably watch them with your own eyes as well.

[Real McClappy]

PFF convinced me we should trade Allen and a 1st to the Saints for Carr. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

That's why passer rating continues to be the only reliable QB metric. PFF drinks their own kool-aid and QBR is fundamentally flawed.

 

Week 8 passer ratings:

Josh Allen: 102.9

Geno Smith: 78.5

Im thinking QBR must have taken into account the 2 fumbles, even though neither resulted in turnovers and one ended in a new first down lol

[zow2]

17 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Josh's turnovers or turnover worthy plays just seem to be so negative in nature compared to others.

 

Yes, it's absurd.  It's like each Allen turnover is equal to 4 for every other QB.  

[DCOrange]

4 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Im thinking QBR must have taken into account the 2 fumbles, even though neither resulted in turnovers and one ended in a new first down lol

Almost certainly.

[Royale with Cheese]

29 minutes ago, Real McClappy said:

PFF convinced me we should trade Allen and a 1st to the Saints for Carr. 

 

Saints will never make that deal....if they subscribe to PFF.

[Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD]

Kaiir Elam is currently PFF's top rated cb

 

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kaiir-elam/98693

 

 

Edited October 29 by Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD

[DapperCam]

I bet they dinged him for his INT, even though the throw was exactly where it was supposed to be and Cooper slipped out of his break.

[BillsDad51]

18 hours ago, Rich Stadium Original said:

Don't believe in a lot of this subjective nonsense to begin with, but for those who missed it (according to PFF):

 

Josh Allen graded out with a 64.1 after the Seattle game (guessing it was the fumble and INT??)

Gino Smith graded out at 72.7 

 

Your eyes lied to you..Allen was actually outplayed by Smith on Sunday..and by a considerable margin

Geno had an INT too. And didn't he have a messed up pitch/handoff that Walker ran down and turned into a 5-yard gain, his longest of the day? And Seahawks got 0 points off Allen's pick while Bills turned Geno's pick into 7. Baffling.

[Royale with Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said:

Kaiir Elam is currently PFF's top rated cb

 

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kaiir-elam/98693

 

 

 

We should be able to get 2 - 1st round picks for him.  He's young.

[nedboy7]

35 minutes ago, Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD said:

Kaiir Elam is currently PFF's top rated cb

 

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/kaiir-elam/98693

 

 

 

Bean you genius!!!

 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

As i said earlier, the grades have to add up to some basis of the whole, otherwise they're meaningless. Save your money.

Edited October 29 by D. L. Hot-Flamethrower

[4th&long]

They are full of *****. I never post attention to them, never once got on their website.

[NI Bills Fan]

So those were tears of happiness Geno was crying?!  Now I understand, thanks PFF 👍