Khalil Mack trade - what would it take?

[GunnerBill]

  On 10/28/2024 at 10:15 PM, Billl said:

It’s not going to cost anything because he’s not going to be for sale.  The Chargers are 4-3 with games against the Browns, Titans, and Bengals the next three weeks.  That’s not a team looking to have a fire sale.

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I mean I agree with this too. Chargers at 4-3, weak schedule and a weak AFC wildcard field. Harbaugh is absolutely thinking "get in year 1 buys me some time while I carry on rebuilding this roster." 

[QLBillsFan]

Just no.. Von coming back. Solomon developing into the rotation. Just not worth parting with picks at this point. Also why would Mack be traded. 

[Simon]

  On 10/28/2024 at 10:15 PM, Billl said:

It’s not going to cost anything because he’s not going to be for sale.  The Chargers are 4-3 with games against the Browns, Titans, and Bengals the next three weeks.  That’s not a team looking to have a fire sale.

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Yeah, I think they'll definitely try to keep it going.

Probably because they haven't figured out yet that John got all the brains and Jim got nothing but the mouth.

[NewEra]

  On 10/28/2024 at 10:15 PM, Billl said:

It’s not going to cost anything because he’s not going to be for sale.  The Chargers are 4-3 with games against the Browns, Titans, and Bengals the next three weeks.  That’s not a team looking to have a fire sale.

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Good point.  That was my initial thought.  

[Don Otreply]

No freaking way, he is going on 34 years old, well past his best performing years, and why in gods name would you trade your quality up and coming young players for this individual, I hate threads like this, no real thought put into them, it should have been titled “ I have an idea to set our team back three years, thoughts?” 
 

GO BILLS!!!

[Savage]

  On 10/28/2024 at 9:02 PM, RobbRiddicksTDLeap said:

Why not just play AJ Epenesa more? The dude makes plays every week, and somehow isn’t starting over Smoot. 

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If he made more plays, he would play more.

 

nothing more than a situational pass rusher, and an average one at that.

[Mr. WEO]

How many teams have also thought “Khalil Mack IS THE MISSING PIECE!!”?

[Kirby Jackson]

  On 10/28/2024 at 8:29 PM, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

He's 33 years old on an expiring contract, with a cap hit in the range of Cooper. If they lose on Sunday @Cleveland, might the new regime be open to make a deal for the future?

 

AJ Epenesa, Javon Solomon, 2025 Diggs Pick (~#60), and a 2026 1st round for 2nd round pick swap? Is that way too much? Way too little? Not even in the zip code of acceptable for either side?

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/player/_/id/14414/khalil-mack

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Add Josh plus another 3 firsts and you’re close. 

[Savage]

  On 10/28/2024 at 9:29 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

It won't they have to fix it. Was interesting to me that both coordinators mixed up tendencies early yesterday. I think it is mainly an inexperience at coordinator issue. Hopefully yesterday was a meaningful step forward.

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  On 10/28/2024 at 9:43 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

This season - yes. Before that - not at all. And you are arguing a untruth to say otherwise. This isn't an opinion. It's a fact.

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  On 10/28/2024 at 9:53 PM, WhiskyBreath said:

 

There are a couple of games this season where the Bills simply were not ready to play in the first half - what I call sleepwalking.  This past Sunday they fixed that issue; however, the question is, will this good performance carry forward when we play top-teams like the Chiefs?

 

 

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[Billl]

It’s actually kind of wild how few dominant pass rushers there are on contending teams.  In the AFC, it’s basically Watt and Jones.  In the NFC, it’s pretty much just Bosa with Hutchinson being out.  All of the others like Crosby, Garrett, Parsons, Lawrence, Hendrickson, etc. are on bad teams.  Everyone in Kansas City is worried that our LTs aren’t good enough to hold up against a dominant DE in the postseason, but it’s entirely possible to go to the Super Bowl and not face one.  I’m not sure the Steelers make it out of the Wild Card round, the 49ers don’t look like a Super Bowl team, and who knows if Aiden will be any good if he were to even play.

[dave mcbride]

  On 10/28/2024 at 8:43 PM, RunTheBall said:

No sht? I had no idea. Still a NO though

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He was awesome last season. One-man wrecking crew.

[uticaclub]

A 4th this year or maybe a 3rd next. Nothing more

[dave mcbride]

  On 10/28/2024 at 10:17 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

I mean I agree with this too. Chargers at 4-3, weak schedule and a weak AFC wildcard field. Harbaugh is absolutely thinking "get in year 1 buys me some time while I carry on rebuilding this roster." 

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Harbaugh went out of his way this offseason to say that you pay for production and that Mack was a top earner in that regard last year.  He is a Mack fan, and I think the Chargers will probably squeak in. He is not going anywhere.

  On 10/28/2024 at 8:41 PM, K-9 said:

I wouldn’t offer them anything at this point. 1.5 sacks in seven games this season indicates a big decline. Heck, Von had three in the four games he’s played so far and he’s returning. I don’t think we need him. 

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3.5 through 7 games, actually, and he is on pace for 8.5. Plus sacks are spiky and he could have a 3-sack game at any point. He is still good!

[Mr. WEO]

for Mack, 3 teams have given up a total of 3 1sts, a 2nd, a 3rd and a few day 3 picks.  yet none of the teams seemed to get any better with him.   Raiders got better without him by picking Josh Jacobs.   Chargers Defense didn't get  better when he showed up in 2022.

 

Great individual player.  Not much of an impact player.  No reason to believe he would have a significant impact on Bills overall Defense (ranked 1-6 past 4 seasons in points allowed).  

[K-9]

  On 10/28/2024 at 8:44 PM, NewEra said:

I don’t think your numbers are correct. 

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Got them of the game logs on pro football reference. 

 

  On 10/28/2024 at 10:42 PM, dave mcbride said:

Harbaugh went out of his way this offseason to say that you pay for production and that Mack was a top earner in that regard last year.  He is a Mack fan, and I think the Chargers will probably squeak in. He is not going anywhere.

3.5 through 7 games, actually, and he is on pace for 8.5. Plus sacks are spiky and he could have a 3-sack game at any point. He is still good!

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Like I said, I got that number directly off the pro football reference game logs for 2024. 
 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MackKh00.htm#last5

Edited October 28, 2024 by K-9

[All_Pro_Bills]

  On 10/28/2024 at 9:35 PM, MiracleAtRich1393 said:

Agreed! My thought was no one is collapsing their interior, at least not someone we could add, might as well try to take advantage of the relatively weaker edge

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It will never happen but Dexter Lawrence from our friends at the Giants, a team going nowhere fast, for a 1st and then doing some creative cap work would do the job.

[bills6969]

I trade our 2014 1st round pick for him bc that’s what we should’ve used to draft him to begin with. Thanks Whaley!

[Warcodered]

A Brandon Beane head injury? I mean we Von back this week.

[Mat68]

This is equivalent to getting Von Miller back.  Fresh legs will be a nice boost to the pass rush.  I don’t want Buffalo to add another aging vet.  Find a 20 something with a year or 2 remaining on a deal.  Not an easy deal to find but a rebuilding team pay be open. 

[billsfan89]

  On 10/28/2024 at 10:17 PM, GunnerBill said:

 

I mean I agree with this too. Chargers at 4-3, weak schedule and a weak AFC wildcard field. Harbaugh is absolutely thinking "get in year 1 buys me some time while I carry on rebuilding this roster." 

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Chargers are for sure going to push the gas to try to make the playoffs. I think he's looking to set a tone with his culture by making the playoffs year one. The Chargers are taking 55 million in dead cap this season which is 7th highest in the league so they will have a chance to really rebuild quickly after this season.