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7 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Honest question to anyone willing to answer..

 

Why?

 

This stuff just sows distrust in an already fragile process. 
 

 


 

Not sure how fast the mail is where you are but if I dropped a card to be sent to my neighbor in the mailbox down the block, it’s probably going to take at least three days. 
 

Remember that mail in ballots are still verified before they are counted. This is just acknowledging the reality that if mail arrives, it was probably sent at least three days prior. 

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40 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Honest question to anyone willing to answer..

 

Why?

 

This stuff just sows distrust in an already fragile process. 
 

 

“The suit centered on the state law that allowsofficials to count mail ballots postmarked with a date that “cannot be determined” and received within the three days following Election Day. It argued that counting non-postmarked mail ballots — as suggested by the Nevada Secretary of State’s Office in a May memo to county clerks — was a misreading of the law”

 

Basic statutory interpretation case. 

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14 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

I just feel that there's no way Kamala could get 80+ million people to vote for her. I mean, I drove around exurban Denver yesterday and I must have seen 100 Trump-Vance signs and just one or two Harris-Walz. Plus have you seen those rally crowds? 

The Harris signs suddenly popped up like mushrooms around here and might now outnumber the Trump signs and I live in a Conservative area 

11 hours ago, SCBills said:

Honest question to anyone willing to answer..

 

Why?

 

This stuff just sows distrust in an already fragile process. 
 

 

Because it was obviously mailed in time 

 

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14 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Odd.

 

If they had proof....I don't know....maybe, THEY'D HAVE PROOF!

 

I have tons of proof!  I'm just not showing anyone ever.  LOL.  Jokers.

There is a whole thread on this forum dedicated to pointing out the election fraud that shows how it happened. Take a look.

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LRon raging moronic drivel again?

 

How refreshing.

 

This is my favorite lane of propaganda to debunk. There is no proof that the 2020 election was stolen except: 

1. Six states changed their election laws two months before the 2020 election by executive fiat, instead of going through the proper channels in the legislature. That is a violation of their state constitutions and that in and of itself is enough to invalidate the results of the 2020 election.

2. Mark Zuckerberg, hard left, spent $450 million dollars of private money on our elections. After the 2020 election analysis revealed that most of that money went to benefit Democrats. 

3. 6 swing states stopped counting the votes on election night for the first time in American history. At the time that they stopped counting the votes, Donald Trump was ahead of Biden in each of them. 

4. The unelected tech oligarchs in conjunction with the FBI in this country censored a very important story about Hunter Biden’s laptop and Joe Biden’s corruption. People who worked in the intelligence community, came out and said it was Russian disinformation only to have that laptop be admitted into evidence as part of an FBI investigation and criminal prosecution of Hunter Biden. Polling after the election showed that if people knew about the Hunter Biden laptop story it would’ve changed 17% of the vote. 

5. 2,036,041 ballots were touched by anomalies. 

6. 923 American citizens filled out affidavits alleging voter fraud, and signed them under penalties of perjury. 

7. 50 plus courts blocked evidentiary hearings into the alleged fraud found in 2020. 

8. Prior to 2020 there were four other contested elections, one in Florida, one in the 78th district of Missouri, one in the ninth district of North Carolina, and one in the 22nd district of New York. In every single one of those four instances, there was an evidentiary hearing. In the 2020 election, there was no evidentiary hearing. For the first time in American history.

9. No election contest in American history has had 923 fact witnesses sign under penalties of perjury and stake their personal freedom in  testimony to attest to the irregularities and legal issues found in various states. 

10. 37 states in the United States of America altered their absentee or mail in ballots ballot integrity procedures before the 2020 election.

11. If those 37 states used the same ballot integrity procedures that they used in 2018, swing states would’ve found an upwards of 30,000 more ineligible ballots.

12. In Pennsylvania, counties allowed new ballots to be filled out after the election.

13. Any one of those is enough to say that there was enough fraud in the 2020 election to doubt the outcome. Can I prove Donald Trump would’ve won the election if the Democrats hadn’t cheated? No I can’t prove a counter-narrative, but I can tell you that this amount of fraud leads any reasonable person to the conclusion that Joe Biden didn’t win.

The insurrection therefore was on 11/3/2020.

1/6 was a lawful protest with permits that got out of hand. Unlike Democrats who spent 10 months burning down this country to the tune of $2 billion dollars, and injuring 740 police officers nationwide, the capital riot had a couple million dollars in damages, 140 police officers that were injured and zero deaths. Except the 3 Trump supporters who were unarmed and killed without any investigation by the corrupt government. 

Anybody who is clutching their pearls about January 6 without mentioning the fact that there was a large federal presence and many anomalies that have yet to be answered is a liar and a partisan hack.

You sound like an uninformed stage 10 TDS patient who needs to detox from CNN and MSNBC. 

You can endorse the cackling communist from California, but don’t you dare pretend like the reason why you’re doing it is because Donald Trump did something wrong.

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13 hours ago, ChiGoose said:


 

Not sure how fast the mail is where you are but if I dropped a card to be sent to my neighbor in the mailbox down the block, it’s probably going to take at least three days. 
 

Remember that mail in ballots are still verified before they are counted. This is just acknowledging the reality that if mail arrives, it was probably sent at least three days prior. 

The issue that people are taking exception to is that according to the article it doesn't matter whether the ballots that arrive late bear a postmark or not.

 

With no postmark, there is no proof that the ballot was deposited before the election closed.  How exactly are you "verifying" the mail in ballots without any postmark?  Well, the guy that brought them to us pinky swore and crossed his heart that he knows they were all really put in the mail on time.  He has an honest face; surely people with honest faces never lie.

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12 minutes ago, Taro T said:

The issue that people are taking exception to is that according to the article it doesn't matter whether the ballots that arrive late bear a postmark or not.

 

With no postmark, there is no proof that the ballot was deposited before the election closed.  How exactly are you "verifying" the mail in ballots without any postmark?  Well, the guy that brought them to us pinky swore and crossed his heart that he knows they were all really put in the mail on time.  He has an honest face; surely people with honest faces never lie.

 

According to the law and court ruling, the clerk may accept ballots that are postmarked up to four days after Election Day and ballots without a postmark up to three days after Election Day. 

 

According to the court:

"“If a voter properly and timely casts their vote by mailing their ballot before or on the day of the election, and through a post office omission the ballot is not postmarked, it would go against public policy to discount that properly cast vote,” the justices wrote in their order.

 

“Rejecting timely mail ballots because of postal service omissions cuts against the strong public interest in exercising the right to vote,” the justices said. “Notably, the RNC presented no evidence or allegations that counting mail ballots without postmarks under [state law] would be subject to voter fraud, or that the election security measures currently in place are inadequate to address its concerns regarding these ballots.”

(source)

 

The logic here is that if a ballot arrives within three days after Election Day, it was almost certainly mailed before Election Day given the speed of the mail. If the Post Office neglected to postmark it, that is not the fault of the voter.

 

Additionally, once a ballot is received by the clerk, it still undergoes verification before being counted. 

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4 hours ago, wnyguy said:

There is a whole thread on this forum dedicated to pointing out the election fraud that shows how it happened. Take a look.

 

"There is a whole thread dedicated to debunked conspiracy theories pointing out misinterpreted videos and information".

 

Zero.  They couldn't even say the word fraud in court in most instances.  Guiliani admitted to lying.  You are a world class sucker for still believing this.  You do realize you don't have to double down on being wrong?   

 

Watch, I'll do it.  When I said Walz was going to destroy Vance in their VP debate I was wrong.

 

See?  It's not so bad.  Sure, a little painful to the pride.  But I did it!  I didn't say he won when he really didn't.  I didnt point to conspiracies supposedly showing he won.  I didn't show out of context videos.  I didn't cite a ridiculously debunked documentary.  

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34 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

"There is a whole thread dedicated to debunked conspiracy theories pointing out misinterpreted videos and information".

 

Zero.  They couldn't even say the word fraud in court in most instances.  Guiliani admitted to lying.  You are a world class sucker for still believing this.  You do realize you don't have to double down on being wrong?   

 

Watch, I'll do it.  When I said Walz was going to destroy Vance in their VP debate I was wrong.

 

See?  It's not so bad.  Sure, a little painful to the pride.  But I did it!  I didn't say he won when he really didn't.  I didnt point to conspiracies supposedly showing he won.  I didn't show out of context videos.  I didn't cite a ridiculously debunked documentary.  

Debunked by who? The ones who cheated? 

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39 minutes ago, wnyguy said:

Debunked by who? The ones who cheated? 

 

2020 was the most secure election in US history!

 

Repeat x 100000000

 

Boom. It's now true above all debate according to leftists. If you object with multiple documented valid objections then you're an election denier.

 

 

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If, somehow, the Trump camp gets a lead beyond voting week (it isn't called election day anymore) - the instant roll reversal on this board will be delicious.

 

But I highly doubt the winning Kamala votes won't be manufactured found, sorry, counted by Friday 11/8.  It's just the way it has to be.  You know, the people have spoken (twice sometimes).

 

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36 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

2020 was the most secure election in US history!

 

Repeat x 100000000

 

Boom. It's now true above all debate according to leftists. If you object with multiple documented valid objections then you're an election denier.

 

 


this dude needs to go on a list or something if Trump loses. I genuinely want him to win so you don’t harm yourself.

 

such bizarre tribalism, copy/paste twitter personality.

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