L Ron Burgundy Posted October 30 Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Your argument that it is simply incompetence is not exactly reassuring. This women has a few jobs but this kind of incompetence should require her to lose her job. If she was crooked what would be different? Where did I make any contention of incompetence? Sure you posted an example of such but it isn't relevant to anything I was saying. I understand we sacrifice certain things for convenience. Some makes fraud more likely. But I think people do not want to risk going to jail to get their guy elected. There remains no proof of widespread fraud. We do not want fraud in elections either. We don't trust you either. But there's still no proof of an issue.
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Where did I make any contention of incompetence? Sure you posted an example of such but it isn't relevant to anything I was saying. I understand we sacrifice certain things for convenience. Some makes fraud more likely. But I think people do not want to risk going to jail to get their guy elected. There remains no proof of widespread fraud. We do not want fraud in elections either. We don't trust you either. But there's still no proof of an issue. Your belief that the vote is pure is possibly the highest level of naivete there is. " But I think people do not want to risk going to jail to get their guy elected." Is also stupid, we have a lot of examples through American history of smaller races being decided by fraud but you believe when trillions of dollars are on the line that is when people find religion? Lastly you are actively trying not to see problems, you are a homer for more government and incompetence.
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 30 Posted October 30 6 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: Hey bro are you still bitching about the one and only 1 border bill? Haha loser. Everything you post makes you look dumber. But at the same time you're too dumb to realize it. It's the ultimate catch 22. I feel sorry for you. But also, it's really funny so I hope you keep going. It's like yelling "Ha I burned you!", at the guy who tied your shoes together while you weren't looking. 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Your belief that the vote is pure is possibly the highest level of naivete there is. " But I think people do not want to risk going to jail to get their guy elected." Is also stupid, we have a lot of examples through American history of smaller races being decided by fraud but you believe when trillions of dollars are on the line that is when people find religion? Lastly you are actively trying not to see problems, you are a homer for more government and incompetence. Come on. Be serious. I'm trying to not see problems? Your side literally made up problems that don't exist, not once, but MANY times. Ask Ruby Freeman. All I want is proof. You seem upset proof needs to be vetted which is beyond insane. If there are solutions that do not disenfranchise voters and that solve a problem I think both sides would agree. You haven't proven there's an issue. You've only pointed out potential for problems. Not the same thing. Edited October 30 by L Ron Burgundy
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 30 Posted October 30 34 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Everything you post makes you look dumber. But at the same time you're too dumb to realize it. It's the ultimate catch 22. I feel sorry for you. But also, it's really funny so I hope you keep going. It's like yelling "Ha I burned you!", at the guy who tied your shoes together while you weren't looking. So in conclusion your still crying sour grapes over the border bill that was so terrible it wouldn't ever pass? Your mental fragility is really showing.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) most optimistic poll Ive seen in a while. I'm predicting the blue wall holds and we'll have President Harris for the next 4 years. If the Pueto Rican vote is responsible for carrying Pa, all the better. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4961843-polls-show-vice-president-harris-leading-trump/ Edited October 30 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Come on. Be serious. I'm trying to not see problems? Your side literally made up problems that don't exist, not once, but MANY times. Ask Ruby Freeman. All I want is proof. You seem upset proof needs to be vetted which is beyond insane. If there are solutions that do not disenfranchise voters and that solve a problem I think both sides would agree. You haven't proven there's an issue. You've only pointed out potential for problems. Not the same thing. How is this acceptable? You are trying to argue that this is acceptable because I can not prove it is intentional. The only gap between us apparently is whether all this incompetence is intentional. 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 30 Posted October 30 2 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Come on. Be serious. I'm trying to not see problems? Your side literally made up problems that don't exist, not once, but MANY times. Ask Ruby Freeman. All I want is proof. You seem upset proof needs to be vetted which is beyond insane. If there are solutions that do not disenfranchise voters and that solve a problem I think both sides would agree. You haven't proven there's an issue. You've only pointed out potential for problems. Not the same thing. Once again you are in favor of incompetence if it benefits your side 1
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 30 Posted October 30 26 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Once again you are in favor of incompetence if it benefits your side Before you gloat I'd wait to make sure this isn't a magat/trumptard. Nothing on here indicates they cheated for Kamala. Plus, it was caught right? That means the cheating didn't work. So another example of the system working? Checks and balances right? I appreciate you reinforcing my point.
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 30 Posted October 30 52 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Before you gloat I'd wait to make sure this isn't a magat/trumptard. Nothing on here indicates they cheated for Kamala. Plus, it was caught right? That means the cheating didn't work. So another example of the system working? Checks and balances right? I appreciate you reinforcing my point. The system didn't work, because one of those is likely real and the rest are fraudulent- and in Michigan once the ballot is accepted there is no way to track it, 28 fake votes. How do you think counting all 29 ballots is working properly? Oh you meant you know the other votes will go to Biden and therefore it is working. here is another from Michigan https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/30/politics/michigan-chinese-citizen-charged-after-illegally-voting
L Ron Burgundy Posted October 31 Posted October 31 43 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: The system didn't work, because one of those is likely real and the rest are fraudulent- and in Michigan once the ballot is accepted there is no way to track it, 28 fake votes. How do you think counting all 29 ballots is working properly? Oh you meant you know the other votes will go to Biden and therefore it is working. here is another from Michigan https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/30/politics/michigan-chinese-citizen-charged-after-illegally-voting So you are saying the 28 fake votes will count? I don't believe you, that would definitely be f'd up. I'm not an expert, I can't say for sure I'm right. But I highly doubt they will count. No way to track a vote isn't the same as not being able to count fraudulent votes. You seem very confident more dems cheat then r's. I wish there were a way to find out, I would definitely bet there's more fraud being committed by the people that have fallen head-over-heels in love with an orange man wearing make-up. As opposed to us who are voting for a very average candidate.
Orlando Buffalo Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, L Ron Burgundy said: So you are saying the 28 fake votes will count? I don't believe you, that would definitely be f'd up. I'm not an expert, I can't say for sure I'm right. But I highly doubt they will count. No way to track a vote isn't the same as not being able to count fraudulent votes. You seem very confident more dems cheat then r's. I wish there were a way to find out, I would definitely bet there's more fraud being committed by the people that have fallen head-over-heels in love with an orange man wearing make-up. As opposed to us who are voting for a very average candidate. Fron the other article I linked to from CNN: "Authorities did not identify the Chinese student accused of voting in the election. He is facing one count of illegally attempting to vote and one count of perjury – both felonies. It appears that the student’s vote can’t be nullified after the fact and will be counted. Washtenaw County Clerk Lawrence Kestenbaum told CNN ballots can’t be retrieved once they have gone through the tabulator." Also the only reason they know the Chinese kid did it is he came forward. The system does not work by intent and the worst problems are all run by Dems.
Chaos Posted October 31 Posted October 31 The candidate who remains composed under fire will prevail over the candidate that loses their composure on a regular basis.
The Frankish Reich Posted October 31 Posted October 31 4 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Once again you are in favor of incompetence if it benefits your side That's the way to get out the vote! Keep it coming, Michigan!!
BillsFanNC Posted November 1 Posted November 1 (edited) If Trump wins: Even faster than 2020 was declared the most secure in US history from every corner of the media, this one will be branded illegitimate and a threat to democracy. Hand in hand with the above there will be immediate and massive nationwide violence and protests. This will be crucial to their efforts. These violent street animals will be branded as freedom fighters who are trying to save democracy. This will be the key to everything, if they aren't able to mobilize the mass violence then none of this will work Using the backdrop of chaos and violence from "freedom fighters" reliable media pressure on overdrive, threatening members of congress etc. there will be a full court press to prevent certification. Think two months of J6 nationwide with the legacy media cheering it on. And if all of the above fails, the next gunman or bomb most definitely won't. If Harris wins: After a week of counting votes, 2024 is declared to be tied with 2020 as the two most secure elections in US history. Because to call it the most secure ever would imply that 2020 had any irregularities whatsoever. Trump team legal challenges will be more organized and prepared, but they will be unsuccessful. Trump goes to prison and then gets Epsteined. Edited November 1 by BillsFanNC 1
The Frankish Reich Posted November 1 Posted November 1 3 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Trump goes to prison and then gets Epsteined. Does he get the traditional last bang with a 14 year old? 1
The Frankish Reich Posted November 1 Posted November 1 Why I'm guessing Trump will win: - state polling has been pretty unreliable, which is not surprising. You're usually dealing with a smaller sample of a smaller population so errors are compounded, so I don't have much faith in them. - somehow (I don't know how since response rates are awful since the landline died) national polling is still pretty good. I look to Silver's aggregate, which at least attempt to separate the good pollsters from the weak ones. He currently has Harris with something on the order of a 1.1 point lead. - the popular vote, of course, isn't what counts, but it correlates pretty well with electoral outcomes. And typically the tipping point has been about a 2.5% or better Harris popular vote win is what she needs to win the electoral vote. - 2016: Hillary wins the popular vote by 2 percent; loses the electoral college - 2020: Biden wins the popular vote by 4.5 percent; wins the electoral college Of course, differentially higher turnout on the Harris side could change things. But right now, Harris's polling lead looks a lot more like a 2016 result than a 2020 result.
wnyguy Posted November 1 Posted November 1 23 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Why I'm guessing Trump will win: - state polling has been pretty unreliable, which is not surprising. You're usually dealing with a smaller sample of a smaller population so errors are compounded, so I don't have much faith in them. - somehow (I don't know how since response rates are awful since the landline died) national polling is still pretty good. I look to Silver's aggregate, which at least attempt to separate the good pollsters from the weak ones. He currently has Harris with something on the order of a 1.1 point lead. - the popular vote, of course, isn't what counts, but it correlates pretty well with electoral outcomes. And typically the tipping point has been about a 2.5% or better Harris popular vote win is what she needs to win the electoral vote. - 2016: Hillary wins the popular vote by 2 percent; loses the electoral college - 2020: Biden wins the popular vote by 4.5 percent; wins the electoral college Of course, differentially higher turnout on the Harris side could change things. But right now, Harris's polling lead looks a lot more like a 2016 result than a 2020 result. That may all be true except you left the cheating part out.
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted November 1 Posted November 1 28 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: Why I'm guessing Trump will win: - state polling has been pretty unreliable, which is not surprising. You're usually dealing with a smaller sample of a smaller population so errors are compounded, so I don't have much faith in them. - somehow (I don't know how since response rates are awful since the landline died) national polling is still pretty good. I look to Silver's aggregate, which at least attempt to separate the good pollsters from the weak ones. He currently has Harris with something on the order of a 1.1 point lead. - the popular vote, of course, isn't what counts, but it correlates pretty well with electoral outcomes. And typically the tipping point has been about a 2.5% or better Harris popular vote win is what she needs to win the electoral vote. - 2016: Hillary wins the popular vote by 2 percent; loses the electoral college - 2020: Biden wins the popular vote by 4.5 percent; wins the electoral college Of course, differentially higher turnout on the Harris side could change things. But right now, Harris's polling lead looks a lot more like a 2016 result than a 2020 result. Cause kamala is a failed candidate regardless of the heavy lifting done by the msm?
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