ganesh Posted Monday at 05:31 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:31 AM 9 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: It's not like I have particular insight but I think it was a combination of a few factors. 1) Opponent: from what I've dug up, Seattle loves to run zone coverage. Keon and Shakir have had no issue beating that this year. Seattle has also ranked near the bottom in run defense. 2) Field conditions: it was a downpour with the field and ball slick (as we saw many times) Were I, a complete novice, to cook up a situational game plan my immediate thought would be to explore the team strength/weakness by putting primary attack on the run game (Cook went off 100+ yards, 2 TDs) and shorter timing routes. Those are things it takes time to build chemistry on and I don't think Cooper is there yet, especially when you had two options that were working wonders Agreed... Shakir, Kincaid, Coleman and the RBs were getting great separation...There was no need to shove something under Amari's throat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted Monday at 06:27 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:27 AM 3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: I know Josh said if teams roll coverage his way , he will throw it elsewhere. Will be interesting to see the all 22 if cooper opened things up for Shakir, Coleman,cook etc All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. 6 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted Monday at 06:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:36 AM 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. and he is getting comfortable in the system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted Monday at 07:34 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:34 AM 3 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Either way, Cooper's existence requires the defense to plan for him in a way that they didn't have to plan for Hollins. Ernest Jones has to be pretty salty. Played the Bills 2 weeks in a row and got beat down by the Bills two weeks in a row. Still time to trade him to the Dolphins. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted Monday at 07:41 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:41 AM 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. The moving him around more IS related to Cooper though. The spent the first 6 weeks just running Keon vertical outside almost every play because they didn't have anyone else to do it and that isn't his game. He isn't particularly good at it. They've had a ton of success the past couple of weeks using him in condensed formations and getting the ball in his hands. The contested catches are nice, but it is hard to make a living in the NFL doing just that. The Bills feeling like it doesn't HAVE to be Keon outside and down the field all the time has given them the freedom to get him the ball some other ways. The Cooper signing definitely has impacted that even if the impact is more indirect than direct. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted Monday at 10:01 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:01 AM They did not throw to him because no one can stand the thought of Chris Brown screaming "SUPER COOPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Wood needs to punch him in the face 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted Monday at 10:04 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:04 AM 6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He took a blow to the upper arm but played afterward. Saw him smiling at Allen + hug at end of game. Josh probably said “more next week” or along those lines him slipping on the play where Josh was picked didn’t help remember, he is going to drag coverage his way, just as teams did to Diggs last year, which opens up everyone else a bit. Josh will go to who is open Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted Monday at 10:15 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:15 AM 6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I also wonder if being on the road in one of the loudest stadiums and not being overly familiar with checks and Allen’s signals may have factored in Was it really that loud with 60% of the stadium being Bills fans? Didn’t sound loud on TV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted Monday at 10:24 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:24 AM Just cause a player doesn’t have tons of target and yards doesn’t mean he’s hurt. They could just be using him a different way. Or relying more on run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted Monday at 11:06 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:06 AM Coleman and Hollins are both now kick ass blockers. That gets you reps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted Monday at 11:25 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:25 AM He's old and slow. Reminds me of Duke Williams. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted Monday at 11:33 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:33 AM (edited) 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. Im Not denying that. My comment had little to do with Coleman, I was was saying it will be interesting to see how cooper opened things for the offence this week as he wasn't involved much with targets. As Josh did state post game he attracted a lot of coverage Edited Monday at 11:40 AM by BillsFan130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted Monday at 11:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:36 AM 10 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: He's old and slow. Reminds me of Duke Williams. Yep, they have had similar careers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted Monday at 11:38 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:38 AM 7 hours ago, Simon said: Just trying to be helpful Science by Simon is officially sponsored by PBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firebaugh Kid Posted Monday at 12:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:22 PM Nice game yesterday 89! Great to see you on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted Monday at 12:39 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:39 PM Ralph is cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted Monday at 12:46 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:46 PM 23 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Nice game yesterday 89! Great to see you on the field. Who was that dude? He was put in motion a couple times across the field and I’m like didn’t know we had an 89 on the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaenon Posted Monday at 12:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 12:48 PM (edited) All I felt like I saw all game was #89 in motion , sprinting back and forth behind the LOS pre-snap. Who is #89? Lol 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Who was that dude? He was put in motion a couple times across the field and I’m like didn’t know we had an 89 on the team. Just looked it up - Jalen Virgil, got the call up from the PS with Curtis Samuel injured. Edited Monday at 12:49 PM by Kaenon Just looked it up, Jalen Virgil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted Monday at 01:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:13 PM 38 snaps. 50%. Bills saving some money by icing him. It's smart--send him back out as needed. Yesterday: not needed. "In addition to Amari Cooper’s base salary, his contract also includes performance-based incentives (per Spotrac) that could impact the Bills’ 2025 cap space depending on his on-field production. Cooper can earn $1 million if he is named first team All-Pro and $500,000 for second team All-Pro honors. Additionally, he has a $1 million incentive tied to reaching 1,251 receiving yards in the season." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted Monday at 01:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:14 PM 52 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Nice game yesterday 89! Great to see you on the field. He definitely went in motion quite a bit. 28 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Who was that dude? He was put in motion a couple times across the field and I’m like didn’t know we had an 89 on the team. Jalen Virgil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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