ganesh Posted October 28 Posted October 28 9 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said: It's not like I have particular insight but I think it was a combination of a few factors. 1) Opponent: from what I've dug up, Seattle loves to run zone coverage. Keon and Shakir have had no issue beating that this year. Seattle has also ranked near the bottom in run defense. 2) Field conditions: it was a downpour with the field and ball slick (as we saw many times) Were I, a complete novice, to cook up a situational game plan my immediate thought would be to explore the team strength/weakness by putting primary attack on the run game (Cook went off 100+ yards, 2 TDs) and shorter timing routes. Those are things it takes time to build chemistry on and I don't think Cooper is there yet, especially when you had two options that were working wonders Agreed... Shakir, Kincaid, Coleman and the RBs were getting great separation...There was no need to shove something under Amari's throat. 1 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 3 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: I know Josh said if teams roll coverage his way , he will throw it elsewhere. Will be interesting to see the all 22 if cooper opened things up for Shakir, Coleman,cook etc All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. 6 1 2 Quote
ganesh Posted October 28 Posted October 28 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. and he is getting comfortable in the system. 1 Quote
Dr. Who Posted October 28 Posted October 28 3 hours ago, That's No Moon said: Either way, Cooper's existence requires the defense to plan for him in a way that they didn't have to plan for Hollins. Ernest Jones has to be pretty salty. Played the Bills 2 weeks in a row and got beat down by the Bills two weeks in a row. Still time to trade him to the Dolphins. 2 Quote
GunnerBill Posted October 28 Posted October 28 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. The moving him around more IS related to Cooper though. The spent the first 6 weeks just running Keon vertical outside almost every play because they didn't have anyone else to do it and that isn't his game. He isn't particularly good at it. They've had a ton of success the past couple of weeks using him in condensed formations and getting the ball in his hands. The contested catches are nice, but it is hard to make a living in the NFL doing just that. The Bills feeling like it doesn't HAVE to be Keon outside and down the field all the time has given them the freedom to get him the ball some other ways. The Cooper signing definitely has impacted that even if the impact is more indirect than direct. 4 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted October 28 Posted October 28 They did not throw to him because no one can stand the thought of Chris Brown screaming "SUPER COOPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!". Wood needs to punch him in the face 3 1 Quote
ProcessTruster Posted October 28 Posted October 28 6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He took a blow to the upper arm but played afterward. Saw him smiling at Allen + hug at end of game. Josh probably said “more next week” or along those lines him slipping on the play where Josh was picked didn’t help remember, he is going to drag coverage his way, just as teams did to Diggs last year, which opens up everyone else a bit. Josh will go to who is open Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 28 Posted October 28 6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I also wonder if being on the road in one of the loudest stadiums and not being overly familiar with checks and Allen’s signals may have factored in Was it really that loud with 60% of the stadium being Bills fans? Didn’t sound loud on TV Quote
Blackbeard Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Just cause a player doesn’t have tons of target and yards doesn’t mean he’s hurt. They could just be using him a different way. Or relying more on run Quote
Pete Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Coleman and Hollins are both now kick ass blockers. That gets you reps Quote
Back2Buff Posted October 28 Posted October 28 He's old and slow. Reminds me of Duke Williams. 1 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) 5 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: All of Colemans production last week came when Cooper was not on the field. People are going to over exaggerate the last 2 week breakout of Coleman as if it was because of Cooper, but it really wasn't. It is more they are moving Coleman around more and also just giving him more targets. Im Not denying that. My comment had little to do with Coleman, I was was saying it will be interesting to see how cooper opened things for the offence this week as he wasn't involved much with targets. As Josh did state post game he attracted a lot of coverage Edited October 28 by BillsFan130 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 28 Posted October 28 10 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: He's old and slow. Reminds me of Duke Williams. Yep, they have had similar careers. 1 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 28 Posted October 28 7 hours ago, Simon said: Just trying to be helpful Science by Simon is officially sponsored by PBS. Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Nice game yesterday 89! Great to see you on the field. 1 Quote
BuffaloRebound Posted October 28 Posted October 28 23 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Nice game yesterday 89! Great to see you on the field. Who was that dude? He was put in motion a couple times across the field and I’m like didn’t know we had an 89 on the team. 1 Quote
Kaenon Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) All I felt like I saw all game was #89 in motion , sprinting back and forth behind the LOS pre-snap. Who is #89? Lol 2 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Who was that dude? He was put in motion a couple times across the field and I’m like didn’t know we had an 89 on the team. Just looked it up - Jalen Virgil, got the call up from the PS with Curtis Samuel injured. Edited October 28 by Kaenon Just looked it up, Jalen Virgil 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted October 28 Posted October 28 38 snaps. 50%. Bills saving some money by icing him. It's smart--send him back out as needed. Yesterday: not needed. "In addition to Amari Cooper’s base salary, his contract also includes performance-based incentives (per Spotrac) that could impact the Bills’ 2025 cap space depending on his on-field production. Cooper can earn $1 million if he is named first team All-Pro and $500,000 for second team All-Pro honors. Additionally, he has a $1 million incentive tied to reaching 1,251 receiving yards in the season." 1 Quote
The Jokeman Posted October 28 Posted October 28 52 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Nice game yesterday 89! Great to see you on the field. He definitely went in motion quite a bit. 28 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Who was that dude? He was put in motion a couple times across the field and I’m like didn’t know we had an 89 on the team. Jalen Virgil Quote
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