Estro Posted Monday at 12:33 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:33 AM (edited) I believe Rousseau was the defender that touched Geno Smith down when he tripped on the 4th down goal line try. Wouldn't that be credited as a sack for Groot? He didn't receive credit for a sack on the play. Confused me Edited Monday at 12:34 AM by Estro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted Monday at 12:35 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:35 AM Just now, Estro said: I believe Rousseau was the defender that touched Geno Smith down when he tripped on the 4th down goal line try. Wouldn't that be credited as a sack for Groot? He didn't receive credit for a sack on the play. Confused me Its a scoring issue I don't really understand, but it's considered a "run" play so it just goes down as a tackle for loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted Monday at 12:36 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:36 AM That's ok. Let's keep the sacks down when we can. Less money when the contract negotiations start😉 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted Monday at 12:58 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:58 AM If it never is clear if run or pass then it goes as a run 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted Monday at 12:59 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:59 AM 25 minutes ago, Estro said: I believe Rousseau was the defender that touched Geno Smith down when he tripped on the 4th down goal line try. Wouldn't that be credited as a sack for Groot? He didn't receive credit for a sack on the play. Confused me He does get the TFL (an underrated stat!). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sojourner Posted Monday at 02:10 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:10 AM 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: He does get the TFL (an underrated stat!). Absolutely, TFL; the sack form of a non-passing play. That’s why, for me, I rank TJ Watt & Crosby as 1-2/2-1 in the league for edge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninAZ Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Someone help me out. When Geno Smith got tripped up on the 4th and goal play and went down behind the line of scrimmage, Rousseau appeared to be the first to touch him afterwards. How come he wasn't credited with a sack? What am I missing here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Maybe just because he’s behind the LOS doesn't make it a pass attempt. It could just be a TFL because it might have been a run play? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago It was counted as a rushing attempt, so it counts as a tackle for loss. They don't know for sure it was going to be a pass play, so it counts as a QB run play. It is what it is, but it is by the book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Smith never established an intent to throw, so it's not scored a passing play. It's a TFL on a rush attempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in Pasadena Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BillsfaninAZ said: Someone help me out. When Geno Smith got tripped up on the 4th and goal play and went down behind the line of scrimmage, Rousseau appeared to be the first to touch him afterwards. How come he wasn't credited with a sack? What am I missing here? Probably not sure it was a pass play. (TFL on the QB on running plays not counted as sacks) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe just because he’s behind the LOS doesn't make it a pass attempt. It could just be a TFL because it might have been a run play? 🤷♂️ So I wonder if that would make a designed QB run a sack if behind the line. Seemed like that's always been a sack. Idk. Interesting tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Just now, Goin Breakdown said: So I wonder if that would make a designed QB run a sack if behind the line. Seemed like that's always been a sack. Idk. Interesting tho Nope. Those are counted as TFLs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, MJS said: Nope. Those are counted as TFLs. Yup. And if the QB is obviously scrambling but steps OOB behind the LOS it is counted as a sack as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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