Estro Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) I believe Rousseau was the defender that touched Geno Smith down when he tripped on the 4th down goal line try. Wouldn't that be credited as a sack for Groot? He didn't receive credit for a sack on the play. Confused me Edited October 28 by Estro Quote
Simon Posted October 28 Posted October 28 Just now, Estro said: I believe Rousseau was the defender that touched Geno Smith down when he tripped on the 4th down goal line try. Wouldn't that be credited as a sack for Groot? He didn't receive credit for a sack on the play. Confused me Its a scoring issue I don't really understand, but it's considered a "run" play so it just goes down as a tackle for loss. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted October 28 Posted October 28 That's ok. Let's keep the sacks down when we can. Less money when the contract negotiations start😉 1 4 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted October 28 Posted October 28 If it never is clear if run or pass then it goes as a run 2 1 Quote
dave mcbride Posted October 28 Posted October 28 25 minutes ago, Estro said: I believe Rousseau was the defender that touched Geno Smith down when he tripped on the 4th down goal line try. Wouldn't that be credited as a sack for Groot? He didn't receive credit for a sack on the play. Confused me He does get the TFL (an underrated stat!). 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted October 28 Posted October 28 1 hour ago, dave mcbride said: He does get the TFL (an underrated stat!). Absolutely, TFL; the sack form of a non-passing play. That’s why, for me, I rank TJ Watt & Crosby as 1-2/2-1 in the league for edge. 1 Quote
BillsfaninAZ Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Someone help me out. When Geno Smith got tripped up on the 4th and goal play and went down behind the line of scrimmage, Rousseau appeared to be the first to touch him afterwards. How come he wasn't credited with a sack? What am I missing here? Quote
Augie Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Maybe just because he’s behind the LOS doesn't make it a pass attempt. It could just be a TFL because it might have been a run play? 🤷♂️ Quote
MJS Posted October 29 Posted October 29 It was counted as a rushing attempt, so it counts as a tackle for loss. They don't know for sure it was going to be a pass play, so it counts as a QB run play. It is what it is, but it is by the book. 1 Quote
BuffaloBillyG Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Smith never established an intent to throw, so it's not scored a passing play. It's a TFL on a rush attempt Quote
Jon in Pasadena Posted October 29 Posted October 29 3 minutes ago, BillsfaninAZ said: Someone help me out. When Geno Smith got tripped up on the 4th and goal play and went down behind the line of scrimmage, Rousseau appeared to be the first to touch him afterwards. How come he wasn't credited with a sack? What am I missing here? Probably not sure it was a pass play. (TFL on the QB on running plays not counted as sacks) 1 Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted October 29 Posted October 29 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Maybe just because he’s behind the LOS doesn't make it a pass attempt. It could just be a TFL because it might have been a run play? 🤷♂️ So I wonder if that would make a designed QB run a sack if behind the line. Seemed like that's always been a sack. Idk. Interesting tho Quote
MJS Posted October 29 Posted October 29 Just now, Goin Breakdown said: So I wonder if that would make a designed QB run a sack if behind the line. Seemed like that's always been a sack. Idk. Interesting tho Nope. Those are counted as TFLs. 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 29 Posted October 29 7 minutes ago, MJS said: Nope. Those are counted as TFLs. Yup. And if the QB is obviously scrambling but steps OOB behind the LOS it is counted as a sack as well. Quote
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