T.E. Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: If you really want a guy that the fan base should be mad at it's Will Wolford. He and his agent really screwed the Bills with that contract that had a clause that he was to be highest paid player on team when Colts had no good QBs and we had Kelly on a huge deal. How can you be mad at a guy for getting a clause like that in his contract? He would've been insane to turn that down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 23 minutes ago, T.E. said: How can you be mad at a guy for getting a clause like that in his contract? He would've been insane to turn that down. Also, I’m pretty sure the Colts put that clause in the contract to make it difficult for the Bills to match. FA was brand new and you really can’t blame Wolford for getting the best deal he could. Sources over the years have said that Wolford’s agent tried to get a deal done with the Bills, and Polian never returned his calls due to his fallout with Ralph Wilson. A whole lot to consider there, but it wasn’t Wolford’s fault. LT’s were underpaid relative to their value to the team. That’s what the onset of FA exposed . Edit: this type of clause was outlawed by the NFL shortly afterward, but the Wolford deal was allowed to stand. Edited 17 hours ago by Boatdrinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Also, I’m pretty sure the Colts put that clause in the contract to make it difficult for the Bills to match. FA was brand new and you really can’t blame Wolford for getting the best deal he could. Sources over the years have said that Wolford’s agent tried to get a deal done with the Bills, and Polian never returned his calls due to his fallout with Ralph Wilson. A whole lot to consider there, but it wasn’t Wolford’s fault. LT’s were underpaid relative to their value to the team. That’s what the onset of FA exposed . Edit: this type of clause was outlawed by the NFL shortly afterward, but the Wolford deal was allowed to stand. So Wolford trying to get as much as he could is somehow different than Peters trying to get paid? The reason to get mad is it was a poison pill that was never real money that Wolford was going to see. It was only to prevent Bills from matching like you said. It's a dirty move by the agent. Without that clause Bills could have matched and Wolford would not have made one penny less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 20 hours ago, NewEra said: Yeah- he caught a pass right to him while being covered by no one as the safety ran right by him like an idiot. It’s a miracle that he gets so much credit for the oppositions suck You act like he didn't drop a perfectly thrown pass that hit him right in the hands just last divisional round. Sometimes just doing your job, getting open & making the catch is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.E. Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: So Wolford trying to get as much as he could is somehow different than Peters trying to get paid? The reason to get mad is it was a poison pill that was never real money that Wolford was going to see. It was only to prevent Bills from matching like you said. It's a dirty move by the agent. Without that clause Bills could have matched and Wolford would not have made one penny less. Here's the thing - signing with Indy guaranteed that if any player on offense signed a bigger contract than him, he would get an immediate raise. It was absolutely done to make it impossible for the Bills to match, and that's why the poison pill is now outlawed, but it's a phenomenal clause to have as a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: So Wolford trying to get as much as he could is somehow different than Peters trying to get paid? The reason to get mad is it was a poison pill that was never real money that Wolford was going to see. It was only to prevent Bills from matching like you said. It's a dirty move by the agent. Without that clause Bills could have matched and Wolford would not have made one penny less. No, it’s no different. However, a op said to be mad at Wolford, and I disagreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago I choose to remember Diggs fondly - because he was instrumental in changing the culture here, and in JA becoming the QB that he is. He was great for a few years here. I was happy to see him go in the end, but this is terrible news. That's a devastating injury for a receiver in his 30's, who is coming up on a new contract. All the best to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostwriter Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago Dude lost a good $50M-$75M because of this injury. Bills Bunker was talking about this on YouTube. The last 3 years of his contract are void now and he is going into FA coming off an ACL. Maybe it wasn’t so bad here after all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 23 minutes ago, ghostwriter said: Dude lost a good $50M-$75M because of this injury. Bills Bunker was talking about this on YouTube. The last 3 years of his contract are void now and he is going into FA coming off an ACL. Maybe it wasn’t so bad here after all? He bet on himself - he wanted to enter the offseason as a FA to get one more big payday. That’s what this was all about. Tough luck for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago (edited) 25 minutes ago, ghostwriter said: Dude lost a good $50M-$75M because of this injury. Bills Bunker was talking about this on YouTube. The last 3 years of his contract are void now and he is going into FA coming off an ACL. Maybe it wasn’t so bad here after all? Literally none of it guaranteed. He'd have been released and got 3.5 million. By voiding it he's a free agent during tampering, and they paid him the 3.5 in 2024 instead of 2025. They used the contract years to massively discount his cap hit this year, and he will carry 16ish million against the cap for Houston next season. It didn't work out but it really didn't change much. If he performed, he would've wanted a new contract. If injured, he'd have been released. Edited 14 hours ago by Bleeding Bills Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, BigDingus said: You act like he didn't drop a perfectly thrown pass that hit him right in the hands just last divisional round. Sometimes just doing your job, getting open & making the catch is all that matters. No, I don’t act like that at all. I’ve probably b*****ed about that drop more than anyone on earth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) Regarding Diggs financial loss... If he stayed healthy, he was pacing about 1000 yards and close to 10 TDs If he stayed healthy, he probably gets at least a 2 year 30 million dollar type deal in FA...maybe more Now ... He probably isn't healthy enough to play till late 2025. So he probably stays a free agent til 2026..what's he getting then, a one year 8 million type deal. That's quite a difference, easily a 20 million plus injury. Hope he insured himself Edited 12 hours ago by TBBills Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, NewEra said: No, I don’t act like that at all. I’ve probably b*****ed about that drop more than anyone on earth. Then I don't get why you'd act like the Minnesota Miracle wasn't a big deal & he doesn't deserve credit. Even the best WRs don't catch every pass or rise to the occasion in the biggest spots every time. Diggs deserves credit for that, regardless of how much we dislike him now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 13 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Then I don't get why you'd act like the Minnesota Miracle wasn't a big deal & he doesn't deserve credit. Even the best WRs don't catch every pass or rise to the occasion in the biggest spots every time. Diggs deserves credit for that, regardless of how much we dislike him now. no, it’s just the opposite. Diggs gets ripped because he dropped a pass that hit him in stride in the mitts. He gets ripped because he’s supposed to make the catch. sure, he gets credit for catching the ball and running a clear path with no one near him into the end zone. Marcus Williams got destroyed for making one of the worst plays in playoff history. Why is that? Because it’s HIS fault that play occurred. Not Diggs’ diggs did his job and scored because of someone else’s suck. Williams’ suck was the “miracle”. Not the catch and run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 hours ago, NewEra said: no, it’s just the opposite. Diggs gets ripped because he dropped a pass that hit him in stride in the mitts. He gets ripped because he’s supposed to make the catch. sure, he gets credit for catching the ball and running a clear path with no one near him into the end zone. Marcus Williams got destroyed for making one of the worst plays in playoff history. Why is that? Because it’s HIS fault that play occurred. Not Diggs’ diggs did his job and scored because of someone else’s suck. Williams’ suck was the “miracle”. Not the catch and run Personally, I think a large majority of “miracle” plays are complete defensive failures. That’s kinda what makes them miracles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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