T.E. Posted October 30 Posted October 30 4 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: If you really want a guy that the fan base should be mad at it's Will Wolford. He and his agent really screwed the Bills with that contract that had a clause that he was to be highest paid player on team when Colts had no good QBs and we had Kelly on a huge deal. How can you be mad at a guy for getting a clause like that in his contract? He would've been insane to turn that down. Quote
Boatdrinks Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) 23 minutes ago, T.E. said: How can you be mad at a guy for getting a clause like that in his contract? He would've been insane to turn that down. Also, I’m pretty sure the Colts put that clause in the contract to make it difficult for the Bills to match. FA was brand new and you really can’t blame Wolford for getting the best deal he could. Sources over the years have said that Wolford’s agent tried to get a deal done with the Bills, and Polian never returned his calls due to his fallout with Ralph Wilson. A whole lot to consider there, but it wasn’t Wolford’s fault. LT’s were underpaid relative to their value to the team. That’s what the onset of FA exposed . Edit: this type of clause was outlawed by the NFL shortly afterward, but the Wolford deal was allowed to stand. Edited October 30 by Boatdrinks 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said: Also, I’m pretty sure the Colts put that clause in the contract to make it difficult for the Bills to match. FA was brand new and you really can’t blame Wolford for getting the best deal he could. Sources over the years have said that Wolford’s agent tried to get a deal done with the Bills, and Polian never returned his calls due to his fallout with Ralph Wilson. A whole lot to consider there, but it wasn’t Wolford’s fault. LT’s were underpaid relative to their value to the team. That’s what the onset of FA exposed . Edit: this type of clause was outlawed by the NFL shortly afterward, but the Wolford deal was allowed to stand. So Wolford trying to get as much as he could is somehow different than Peters trying to get paid? The reason to get mad is it was a poison pill that was never real money that Wolford was going to see. It was only to prevent Bills from matching like you said. It's a dirty move by the agent. Without that clause Bills could have matched and Wolford would not have made one penny less. 1 Quote
BigDingus Posted October 30 Posted October 30 20 hours ago, NewEra said: Yeah- he caught a pass right to him while being covered by no one as the safety ran right by him like an idiot. It’s a miracle that he gets so much credit for the oppositions suck You act like he didn't drop a perfectly thrown pass that hit him right in the hands just last divisional round. Sometimes just doing your job, getting open & making the catch is all that matters. Quote
T.E. Posted October 30 Posted October 30 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: So Wolford trying to get as much as he could is somehow different than Peters trying to get paid? The reason to get mad is it was a poison pill that was never real money that Wolford was going to see. It was only to prevent Bills from matching like you said. It's a dirty move by the agent. Without that clause Bills could have matched and Wolford would not have made one penny less. Here's the thing - signing with Indy guaranteed that if any player on offense signed a bigger contract than him, he would get an immediate raise. It was absolutely done to make it impossible for the Bills to match, and that's why the poison pill is now outlawed, but it's a phenomenal clause to have as a player. Quote
Boatdrinks Posted October 30 Posted October 30 21 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: So Wolford trying to get as much as he could is somehow different than Peters trying to get paid? The reason to get mad is it was a poison pill that was never real money that Wolford was going to see. It was only to prevent Bills from matching like you said. It's a dirty move by the agent. Without that clause Bills could have matched and Wolford would not have made one penny less. No, it’s no different. However, a op said to be mad at Wolford, and I disagreed. Quote
Success Posted October 30 Posted October 30 I choose to remember Diggs fondly - because he was instrumental in changing the culture here, and in JA becoming the QB that he is. He was great for a few years here. I was happy to see him go in the end, but this is terrible news. That's a devastating injury for a receiver in his 30's, who is coming up on a new contract. All the best to him. Quote
ghostwriter Posted October 30 Posted October 30 Dude lost a good $50M-$75M because of this injury. Bills Bunker was talking about this on YouTube. The last 3 years of his contract are void now and he is going into FA coming off an ACL. Maybe it wasn’t so bad here after all? Quote
Coach Tuesday Posted October 30 Posted October 30 23 minutes ago, ghostwriter said: Dude lost a good $50M-$75M because of this injury. Bills Bunker was talking about this on YouTube. The last 3 years of his contract are void now and he is going into FA coming off an ACL. Maybe it wasn’t so bad here after all? He bet on himself - he wanted to enter the offseason as a FA to get one more big payday. That’s what this was all about. Tough luck for him. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 30 Posted October 30 (edited) 25 minutes ago, ghostwriter said: Dude lost a good $50M-$75M because of this injury. Bills Bunker was talking about this on YouTube. The last 3 years of his contract are void now and he is going into FA coming off an ACL. Maybe it wasn’t so bad here after all? Literally none of it guaranteed. He'd have been released and got 3.5 million. By voiding it he's a free agent during tampering, and they paid him the 3.5 in 2024 instead of 2025. They used the contract years to massively discount his cap hit this year, and he will carry 16ish million against the cap for Houston next season. It didn't work out but it really didn't change much. If he performed, he would've wanted a new contract. If injured, he'd have been released. Edited October 30 by Bleeding Bills Blue 2 Quote
NewEra Posted October 30 Posted October 30 1 hour ago, BigDingus said: You act like he didn't drop a perfectly thrown pass that hit him right in the hands just last divisional round. Sometimes just doing your job, getting open & making the catch is all that matters. No, I don’t act like that at all. I’ve probably b*****ed about that drop more than anyone on earth. Quote
TBBills Fan Posted October 31 Posted October 31 (edited) Regarding Diggs financial loss... If he stayed healthy, he was pacing about 1000 yards and close to 10 TDs If he stayed healthy, he probably gets at least a 2 year 30 million dollar type deal in FA...maybe more Now ... He probably isn't healthy enough to play till late 2025. So he probably stays a free agent til 2026..what's he getting then, a one year 8 million type deal. That's quite a difference, easily a 20 million plus injury. Hope he insured himself Edited October 31 by TBBills Fan 2 Quote
BigDingus Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, NewEra said: No, I don’t act like that at all. I’ve probably b*****ed about that drop more than anyone on earth. Then I don't get why you'd act like the Minnesota Miracle wasn't a big deal & he doesn't deserve credit. Even the best WRs don't catch every pass or rise to the occasion in the biggest spots every time. Diggs deserves credit for that, regardless of how much we dislike him now. 1 Quote
NewEra Posted October 31 Posted October 31 13 minutes ago, BigDingus said: Then I don't get why you'd act like the Minnesota Miracle wasn't a big deal & he doesn't deserve credit. Even the best WRs don't catch every pass or rise to the occasion in the biggest spots every time. Diggs deserves credit for that, regardless of how much we dislike him now. no, it’s just the opposite. Diggs gets ripped because he dropped a pass that hit him in stride in the mitts. He gets ripped because he’s supposed to make the catch. sure, he gets credit for catching the ball and running a clear path with no one near him into the end zone. Marcus Williams got destroyed for making one of the worst plays in playoff history. Why is that? Because it’s HIS fault that play occurred. Not Diggs’ diggs did his job and scored because of someone else’s suck. Williams’ suck was the “miracle”. Not the catch and run Quote
FireChans Posted October 31 Posted October 31 10 hours ago, NewEra said: no, it’s just the opposite. Diggs gets ripped because he dropped a pass that hit him in stride in the mitts. He gets ripped because he’s supposed to make the catch. sure, he gets credit for catching the ball and running a clear path with no one near him into the end zone. Marcus Williams got destroyed for making one of the worst plays in playoff history. Why is that? Because it’s HIS fault that play occurred. Not Diggs’ diggs did his job and scored because of someone else’s suck. Williams’ suck was the “miracle”. Not the catch and run Personally, I think a large majority of “miracle” plays are complete defensive failures. That’s kinda what makes them miracles. 1 Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 31 Posted October 31 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Lets assume he's talking about... football players. Still a wildly weird tweet. 1 Quote
ganesh Posted October 31 Posted October 31 On 10/30/2024 at 8:20 PM, Bleeding Bills Blue said: It's funny to look at the 08-10 bills rosters. Who was making money on these teams? How was this team even at the salary floor, or even remotely competitive? They were running a cap-to-cash system... Quote
uticaclub Posted October 31 Posted October 31 2 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Is he trying to be the new Diddy? 1 Quote
Saxum Posted October 31 Posted October 31 30 minutes ago, uticaclub said: Is he trying to be the new Diddy? I have seen him with one glove a lot. Make Michael Jackson fan? Quote
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