Diggs hurt (Torn ACL - out for the season)

[Juice_32]

31 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said:

Get well Stef.

Whatever else you want to say about him, the best four year stretch of any Bills WR ever - and it's not close.

 

He was declining, he needed to go, he should have caught the ball against KC ... yes.

 

445 catches

5,372 yards

37 TDs

 

 

 

This play will always hold a special place in my heart. He's a douche but at the time he was our douche and I loved him.

[PromoTheRobot]

Wizard Beane got rid of Diggs before he broke down running a route.

[Mr. WEO]

51 minutes ago, Mango said:

I mean the GQ interview he says teams didn’t want to move on from him, that he was moved because he wanted to move. 
 

And in the case of Buffalo, he knew that was the case at the start of the year.

 

 

 

well, that's his side of the story--it's laughable, but I guess what else is he gonna say?  The Vikings clearly wanted to move on from him as did the Bills.  

 

The Bills were the ones shopping him.  They had enough.

[DapperCam]

5 minutes ago, Juice_32 said:

 

This play will always hold a special place in my heart. He's a douche but at the time he was our douche and I loved him.

My favorite Diggs play was the clutch catch vs the Lions to set up the game winning FG.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

I feel For Diggs and wish him well. And I hope he returns to form. 
 

But his antics here cost him the cushion of a long-term deal that would have provided huge security for an injury like this.
 

he engineered his way out, got basically a 1-year deal from the Texans, and he will be on the 1-year deal carousel now probably for the rest of his career. 

[WhitewalkerInPhilly]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I feel For Diggs and wish him well. And I hope he returns to form. 
 

But his antics here cost him the cushion of a long-term deal that would have provided huge security for an injury like this.
 

he engineered his way out, got basically a 1-year deal from the Texans, and he will be on the 1-year deal carousel now probably for the rest of his career. 

Yep. Not only did he force his way out, he agreed to have the last two years of his contract shaved off.

 

I don't need to celebrate his injury to think that the Bills dodged a bullet by getting what they could for him before an injury like this happened on their watch

[Back2Buff]

2 hours ago, DrPJax said:

       You can’t predict that type of injury.  Your logic is shot tho when Beane paid for an older Von miller who cost much more than Diggs.  Obviously you can  take into account prior injuries ( tho again Beane ignored the fact miller already sustained one prior ACL AND is older than Diggs).  You can’t base things on future injuries , unless you make the contract incentive laden, which again is usually because of a prior history of missing time due to prior injuries.  Basically, your premise makes no sense as he already took none of that into consideration with miller , so no, Beane won’t come out and say it because it’s a moot point. Best to rethink that one, certainly wouldn’t bet on it!  😂

 

What the heck are you talking about?  The pressure a WR puts on his knees, is very different than what a DE puts on his knees.

 

You can definitely predict injuries with players.  Wear and tear is real.

[Brianmoorman4jesus]

Watch the Bills bring Diggs and Davis both back next year for 1/5 the price to compete for WR 3/4 lol

[Einstein's Dog]

27 minutes ago, Strethor said:

Aging diva wide receiver gambled and lost. Grateful for the memories 

Diggs did not lose any gamble - Houston gave him all his guaranteed money this year.

 

1 hour ago, mbowman14 said:

I think the difference is Allen has achieved a level of fandom with the Bills that few others have.  Diggs' issues and treatment of #17 for his last year plus here (notably back to the Cincinatti debacle, the last straw tweet "You sure" etc) have soured his image here beyond repair with most.  It doesn't take much of a leap to read between the lines as to what Allen thinks of him.  The "Everybody Eats" speech and repeated mention was absolutely his way of bashing Diggs without saying his name.  Fans aren't forgiving Diggs for forcing his way out of what most would say is a great situation (qb and winning-wise) for less money guaranteed (biting him in the ass now).  Sorry he is hurt, but thrilled he is no longer a Bill.

 

Sane misconception that is routinely bandied about.  Diggs did not get less money, Houston gave him all his guaranteed money this year ($22.5M).  

 

This storyline that Diggs is such a competitor that he took less money to go to a contender is total BS and people on this board should not be falling for it.

 

For me I don't know if I will ever put Diggs in the fold of admirable status of long time Bills players.  Not based on his personality conflicts - over time I can forgive those - but Diggs not so quietly quit on the team.  The second half of last season with the third downs, taking himself off the field.  The plays where he loafed and jogged when the ball wasn't going his way.  I (along with many on the board - there was a thread) thought Diggs was playing through a rather significant injury - one that would require post season surgery.  I guess it was my way of reconciling my previous opinion of Diggs as a competitor with what I was seeing on the field.  Then we see him running around at the pro bowl playing flag football.  Inexcusable. 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

I mean the GQ interview he says teams didn’t want to move on from him, that he was moved because he wanted to move. 
 

 

And there were no shortage of fans on this forum telling us that we were crazy for saying Diggs wanted out 😂

[BillsSbSoon]

You know who will probably be one of the first guys to call him about his injury? My guess Josh will be if he hasn’t already. He can rest up and watch us win the whole thing without him too

Edited October 29 by BillsSbSoon

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

16 minutes ago, WhitewalkerInPhilly said:

Yep. Not only did he force his way out, he agreed to have the last two years of his contract shaved off.

 

I don't need to celebrate his injury to think that the Bills dodged a bullet by getting what they could for him before an injury like this happened on their watch

 

They were very likely non-guaranteed years anyway.  The new deal guaranteed he hit free agency day 1 2025, while the non-guaranteed years meant technically he'd be under contract and could only negotiate with one team through any roster bonus dates.  I think it also pushed any of his future guarantees on the remaining contract forward to this season. 

 

Essentially his agent can be active during tampering, whereas under contract you have to wait until the team decides what they are doing with you.  The goal (when healthy) is to get signed as early as possible before you're left without a chair, especially so for free agents in their 30s.  

 

End of the day - he sustains this injury and still has those 2 additional years, he gets cut anyway in 2025 and likely makes almost the same amount of money during 2024-2025.    

10 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Diggs did not lose any gamble - Houston gave him all his guaranteed money this year.

 

 

Sane misconception that is routinely bandied about.  Diggs did not get less money, Houston gave him all his guaranteed money this year ($22.5M).  

 

This storyline that Diggs is such a competitor that he took less money to go to a contender is total BS and people on this board should not be falling for it.

 

For me I don't know if I will ever put Diggs in the fold of admirable status of long time Bills players.  Not based on his personality conflicts - over time I can forgive those - but Diggs not so quietly quit on the team.  The second half of last season with the third downs, taking himself off the field.  The plays where he loafed and jogged when the ball wasn't going his way.  I (along with many on the board - there was a thread) thought Diggs was playing through a rather significant injury - one that would require post season surgery.  I guess it was my way of reconciling my previous opinion of Diggs as a competitor with what I was seeing on the field.  Then we see him running around at the pro bowl playing flag football.  Inexcusable. 

 

They also have a dead money hit of 16.6M in 2025 for him to not be on the team

Edited October 29 by Bleeding Bills Blue

[TheCockSportif]

I feel the same way about Diggs as I do about Beasley.  I remember watching the TG game in 2019 with Beasley crushing it (I was smoking two spatchcocked turkeys in the background at the time, and ended up rendering both w crispy skin).  Diggs brought this team to another level later on.

 

In both cases, it was short lived, as it always is.

 

I feel for Diggs.  I really do.  He had other aspirations, as probably everyone does, so he wanted out.  But, as someone who had professional bumps in 2018 (due to my own exaggerated aspirations), I totally get it.  I didn't tear an ACL, because I work in tech -- where tearing an ACL is improbable (?).  Still, I got pantsed in that single year and 2018 left a gap in my resume that prospective employers always talk about (thank goodness that I found a solid landing spot w current job).

 

I wish Diggs the best.  But at some point greed brings the aberration of 2018 into focus for all involved.  You get older, and you get "expensive" as far as employers are concerned.  At some point, people stop talking to you.  My best guess?  This where Diggs is at -- at the moment, and likely going forward.

 

[julian]

2 hours ago, LarryMadman said:

My wife was a cheerleader with her in high school.

Nice flex… respect 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

Diggs screaming at Allen on the sidelines in 2022 and then using his younger brother throughout most of 2023 to demand a trade really rubbed me the wrong way.

 

He was given tons of money in Buffalo, not to mention a top-3 QB (at worst) who targeted him 10+ times a game. When he finally did successfully force his way out, they sent him to another good team with another great QB.

 

I never like to see anyone get hurt, but I'm not exactly going to lose sleep over it either.

 

 

The good - Without him we don’t have the 2020 season we had where the Bills became what we are now.  Perennial contenders.  He has a massive place in Bills history.  
 

I had people tell me he’s a this and he’s a that because of how he left Minnesota.  I defended him and defended him thru his protest or whatever the hell it was in June of 2023.  Maybe we all wanted to believe he had a point about Dorsey?  Problems with Josh’s commitment in the off season?  
 

The bad - He basically gave us 2 and a half drama free seasons.  He was elite.  Then something happened.  We’re never going to know.  But not realizing - or maybe not giving a dam about what his legacy in this city was going to be or could have been and that he didn’t care really bothers me.  He looked like he quit after Dorsey was canned.  He looked disinterested.  You telling me he couldn’t do what Shakir or Coleman are doing?  
 

Looking back now, that sideline shoulder shrug and then his unwillingness to talk to the media after that Bengals game, followed up with him proceeding to be a malcontent all off season - in the aftermath of a teammate dying on the field should have told us all we needed to know about him.  
 

A teammate died on the field.  We played a terrible game 3 weeks later.  Season over.  And he vanishes.  Cryptic tweeting.  Usual nonsense.  After what the team went thru.  Just unacceptable for a captain and if he truly cared about the city and fans that doesn’t happen. 
 

He cares about Diggs first.  Ok fine.  
 

I appreciate the 2 and a half seasons.  I wish he wasn’t injured.  Hope you come back strong in Dallas.  

[Doc Brown]

47 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Looking back now, that sideline shoulder shrug and then his unwillingness to talk to the media after that Bengals game, followed up with him proceeding to be a malcontent all off season - in the aftermath of a teammate dying on the field should have told us all we needed to know about him.  
 

A teammate died on the field.  We played a terrible game 3 weeks later.  Season over.  And he vanishes.  Cryptic tweeting.  Usual nonsense.  After what the team went thru.  Just unacceptable for a captain and if he truly cared about the city and fans that doesn’t happen. 

 

I appreciate the 2 and a half seasons.  I wish he wasn’t injured.  Hope you come back strong in Dallas.  

 

I think his leadership after the Damar game is a huge reason they were able to even win that Wild Card game.  Just a highly emotional kid who had extreme positive and negative traits.  We'll never know exactly what happened but I blame both sides for the breakup.  BTW, he gave us 3 1/2 great years.  Not 2 1/2.  

Edited October 29 by Doc Brown

[RyanC883]

51 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said:

I feel the same way about Diggs as I do about Beasley.  I remember watching the TG game in 2019 with Beasley crushing it (I was smoking two spatchcocked turkeys in the background at the time, and ended up rendering both w crispy skin).  Diggs brought this team to another level later on.

 

In both cases, it was short lived, as it always is.

 

I feel for Diggs.  I really do.  He had other aspirations, as probably everyone does, so he wanted out.  But, as someone who had professional bumps in 2018 (due to my own exaggerated aspirations), I totally get it.  I didn't tear an ACL, because I work in tech -- where tearing an ACL is improbable (?).  Still, I got pantsed in that single year and 2018 left a gap in my resume that prospective employers always talk about (thank goodness that I found a solid landing spot w current job).

 

I wish Diggs the best.  But at some point greed brings the aberration of 2018 into focus for all involved.  You get older, and you get "expensive" as far as employers are concerned.  At some point, people stop talking to you.  My best guess?  This where Diggs is at -- at the moment, and likely going forward.

 

 

Beasley never quit in the bills or acted like a diva or yelled at the qb on the sideline.  

[Roundybout]

53 minutes ago, TheCockSportif said:

I feel the same way about Diggs as I do about Beasley.  I remember watching the TG game in 2019 with Beasley crushing it (I was smoking two spatchcocked turkeys in the background at the time, and ended up rendering both w crispy skin).  Diggs brought this team to another level later on.

 

In both cases, it was short lived, as it always is.

 

I feel for Diggs.  I really do.  He had other aspirations, as probably everyone does, so he wanted out.  But, as someone who had professional bumps in 2018 (due to my own exaggerated aspirations), I totally get it.  I didn't tear an ACL, because I work in tech -- where tearing an ACL is improbable (?).  Still, I got pantsed in that single year and 2018 left a gap in my resume that prospective employers always talk about (thank goodness that I found a solid landing spot w current job).

 

I wish Diggs the best.  But at some point greed brings the aberration of 2018 into focus for all involved.  You get older, and you get "expensive" as far as employers are concerned.  At some point, people stop talking to you.  My best guess?  This where Diggs is at -- at the moment, and likely going forward.

 

 

You want to come over to my place this year? Bring the smoker.

[RyanC883]

8 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

 

I think his leadership after the Damar game is a huge reason they were able to even win that Wild Card game.  Just a highly emotional kid who had extreme positive and negative traits.  We'll never know exactly what happened but I blame both sides for the breakup.  BTW, he gave us 3 1/2 great years.  Not 2 1/2.  

 

all great points.  But he did follow it up with a season of quitting during games and disappearing in the playoffs.  No doubt he wants to win, but he acts like a spoiled kid when things are not 100 percent to his liking. 

[TheCockSportif]

Just now, RyanC883 said:

 

Beasley never quit in the bills or acted like a diva or yelled at the qb on the sideline.  

I believe that this is true.  However, Diggs was freaking great for the team for nearly 3 years.  No rational person can deny that.

 

Like I wrote earlier, and I paraphrase now: Don't get over your skis.  Diggs did.

 

1 minute ago, Roundybout said:

 

You want to come over to my place this year? Bring the smoker.

Where are you?

 

I'm happy to post the recipe in OTW.  Dead simple.  It's time vs prep -- where prep wins.  Literally two days of waiting.  Then *boom* on the smoker.