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3 hours ago, US Egg said:

Do they really have to register their hands as lethal weapons?

 

No, but prosecutors will absolutely use a fighter's training and extensive experience to beef up charges against them. There's kind of an understanding that trained fighters have extra responsibility to walk away from laymen trying to pick a fight.

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1 hour ago, LeviF said:

 

No, but prosecutors will absolutely use a fighter's training and extensive experience to beef up charges against them. There's kind of an understanding that trained fighters have extra responsibility to walk away from laymen trying to pick a fight.


What happens if the fighter is attacked?

How much can he unleash?

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1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:


What happens if the fighter is attacked?

How much can he unleash?

 

Normal self-defense rules still apply. Gonna vary by state. If they knock someone out with one punch in a self defense scenario they're probably good.

 

An MMA guy applying a choke might be a different story.

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4 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

Normal self-defense rules still apply. Gonna vary by state. If they knock someone out with one punch in a self defense scenario they're probably good.

 

An MMA guy applying a choke might be a different story.

 

A choke is much safer than a one punch.  Concussions or being knocked out and cracking your head on pavement has serious consequences.

The Marietta Police near me are required to train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to prevent injuries and hurting the bad guy too much.

 

I personally am not going to put the guy out unless he's really dangerous.  I'm just going to smother him where he can't move.  

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10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

A choke is much safer than a one punch.  Concussions or being knocked out and cracking your head on pavement has serious consequences.

The Marietta Police near me are required to train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to prevent injuries and hurting the bad guy too much.

 

I personally am not going to put the guy out unless he's really dangerous.  I'm just going to smother him where he can't move.  

 

A choke is considered deadly physical force in NY. 

 

I'm not saying I agree or disagree but there is no longer any chokes taught in a DCJS class for that reason.

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27 minutes ago, LeviF said:

 

A choke is considered deadly physical force in NY. 

 

I'm not saying I agree or disagree but there is no longer any chokes taught in a DCJS class for that reason.


I know you aren’t agreeing or disagreeing.

 

So in NYS state, it would be better for me to dislocate a shoulder than choke a guy who is attacking me?

 

Georgia allows chokes as long as its proportionate and reasonable.  I can’t just put him out with a choke if he isn’t really a threat or if we are just having words.  He has to attack me and Im under a real threat.  Im also not holding onto this choke for more than 5 seconds regardless.

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:


I know you aren’t agreeing or disagreeing.

 

So in NYS state, it would be better for me to dislocate a shoulder than choke a guy who is attacking me?

 

Georgia allows chokes as long as its proportionate and reasonable.  I can’t just put him out with a choke if he isn’t really a threat or if we are just having words.  He has to attack me and Im under a real threat.  Im also not holding onto this choke for more than 5 seconds regardless.


You’re good to choke so long as you’re also good to shoot. That’s the standard. Deadly physical force justified under article 35. 

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26 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:


How would this go in NYS?  Would the BJJ guy be in some hot water?

 

 

 

There's a manslaiughter trial just getting underway in NYC where an ex-Marine subdued a guy on a subway leading to his death.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/jury-selection-begins-daniel-penny-nyc-subway-chokehold-death-1972010

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50 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

There's a manslaiughter trial just getting underway in NYC where an ex-Marine subdued a guy on a subway leading to his death.

 

https://www.newsweek.com/jury-selection-begins-daniel-penny-nyc-subway-chokehold-death-1972010


As he should be in trial.  He held the choke for over 3 minutes.  He didn’t know what he was doing and shouldn’t have done it.

 

If you can’t put the guy out in 5-7 seconds, you shouldn’t even attempt.

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:


How would this go in NYS?  Would the BJJ guy be in some hot water?

 

 


Honestly it probably depends on the jurisdiction. 
 

The fighting experience thing can cut both ways. If he could articulate that the level of force was reasonably necessary and that it was a blood choke that could end the threat in five seconds based on his training it might be fine. 
 

But this is a good reason to never talk to the police. Let your lawyer do it. 

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On 10/25/2024 at 1:19 PM, Royale with Cheese said:

 

A choke is much safer than a one punch.  Concussions or being knocked out and cracking your head on pavement has serious consequences.

The Marietta Police near me are required to train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to prevent injuries and hurting the bad guy too much.

 

I personally am not going to put the guy out unless he's really dangerous.  I'm just going to smother him where he can't move.  

I don't know pretty sure you can have a ton of them and still quarterback the Miami Dolphins offense apparently.

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