RkFast Posted October 25 Posted October 25 (edited) The way Rodriguez just smiles at him while tapping his chest is just *chefs kiss.* Edited October 25 by RkFast 3 Quote
US Egg Posted October 25 Posted October 25 Do they really have to register their hands as lethal weapons? Quote
Fleezoid Posted October 25 Posted October 25 I like the restraint, but there's a part of me that wants him to just blow that guy up. 1 Quote
LeviF Posted October 25 Posted October 25 3 hours ago, US Egg said: Do they really have to register their hands as lethal weapons? No, but prosecutors will absolutely use a fighter's training and extensive experience to beef up charges against them. There's kind of an understanding that trained fighters have extra responsibility to walk away from laymen trying to pick a fight. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 25 Posted October 25 1 hour ago, LeviF said: No, but prosecutors will absolutely use a fighter's training and extensive experience to beef up charges against them. There's kind of an understanding that trained fighters have extra responsibility to walk away from laymen trying to pick a fight. What happens if the fighter is attacked? How much can he unleash? Quote
LeviF Posted October 25 Posted October 25 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: What happens if the fighter is attacked? How much can he unleash? Normal self-defense rules still apply. Gonna vary by state. If they knock someone out with one punch in a self defense scenario they're probably good. An MMA guy applying a choke might be a different story. Quote
RkFast Posted October 25 Author Posted October 25 (edited) Now some are saying thats not Chino Rodriquez but some guy who is *just* an Army Ranger. Great sequence either way. Edited October 25 by RkFast Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 25 Posted October 25 4 minutes ago, LeviF said: Normal self-defense rules still apply. Gonna vary by state. If they knock someone out with one punch in a self defense scenario they're probably good. An MMA guy applying a choke might be a different story. A choke is much safer than a one punch. Concussions or being knocked out and cracking your head on pavement has serious consequences. The Marietta Police near me are required to train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to prevent injuries and hurting the bad guy too much. I personally am not going to put the guy out unless he's really dangerous. I'm just going to smother him where he can't move. Quote
LeviF Posted October 25 Posted October 25 10 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: A choke is much safer than a one punch. Concussions or being knocked out and cracking your head on pavement has serious consequences. The Marietta Police near me are required to train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to prevent injuries and hurting the bad guy too much. I personally am not going to put the guy out unless he's really dangerous. I'm just going to smother him where he can't move. A choke is considered deadly physical force in NY. I'm not saying I agree or disagree but there is no longer any chokes taught in a DCJS class for that reason. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 25 Posted October 25 27 minutes ago, LeviF said: A choke is considered deadly physical force in NY. I'm not saying I agree or disagree but there is no longer any chokes taught in a DCJS class for that reason. I know you aren’t agreeing or disagreeing. So in NYS state, it would be better for me to dislocate a shoulder than choke a guy who is attacking me? Georgia allows chokes as long as its proportionate and reasonable. I can’t just put him out with a choke if he isn’t really a threat or if we are just having words. He has to attack me and Im under a real threat. Im also not holding onto this choke for more than 5 seconds regardless. Quote
LeviF Posted October 25 Posted October 25 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I know you aren’t agreeing or disagreeing. So in NYS state, it would be better for me to dislocate a shoulder than choke a guy who is attacking me? Georgia allows chokes as long as its proportionate and reasonable. I can’t just put him out with a choke if he isn’t really a threat or if we are just having words. He has to attack me and Im under a real threat. Im also not holding onto this choke for more than 5 seconds regardless. You’re good to choke so long as you’re also good to shoot. That’s the standard. Deadly physical force justified under article 35. Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 25 Posted October 25 28 minutes ago, LeviF said: You’re good to choke so long as you’re also good to shoot. That’s the standard. Deadly physical force justified under article 35. How would this go in NYS? Would the BJJ guy be in some hot water? Quote
SinceThe70s Posted October 25 Posted October 25 26 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: How would this go in NYS? Would the BJJ guy be in some hot water? There's a manslaiughter trial just getting underway in NYC where an ex-Marine subdued a guy on a subway leading to his death. https://www.newsweek.com/jury-selection-begins-daniel-penny-nyc-subway-chokehold-death-1972010 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted October 25 Posted October 25 (edited) 50 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: There's a manslaiughter trial just getting underway in NYC where an ex-Marine subdued a guy on a subway leading to his death. https://www.newsweek.com/jury-selection-begins-daniel-penny-nyc-subway-chokehold-death-1972010 As he should be in trial. He held the choke for over 3 minutes. He didn’t know what he was doing and shouldn’t have done it. If you can’t put the guy out in 5-7 seconds, you shouldn’t even attempt. Edited October 25 by Royale with Cheese Quote
LeviF Posted October 26 Posted October 26 2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: How would this go in NYS? Would the BJJ guy be in some hot water? Honestly it probably depends on the jurisdiction. The fighting experience thing can cut both ways. If he could articulate that the level of force was reasonably necessary and that it was a blood choke that could end the threat in five seconds based on his training it might be fine. But this is a good reason to never talk to the police. Let your lawyer do it. Quote
SinceThe70s Posted October 26 Posted October 26 53 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: As he should be in trial. He held the choke for over 3 minutes. He didn’t know what he was doing and shouldn’t have done it. If you can’t put the guy out in 5-7 seconds, you shouldn’t even attempt. Thanks, appreciate the perspective. Quote
Warcodered Posted October 27 Posted October 27 On 10/25/2024 at 1:19 PM, Royale with Cheese said: A choke is much safer than a one punch. Concussions or being knocked out and cracking your head on pavement has serious consequences. The Marietta Police near me are required to train in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu to prevent injuries and hurting the bad guy too much. I personally am not going to put the guy out unless he's really dangerous. I'm just going to smother him where he can't move. I don't know pretty sure you can have a ton of them and still quarterback the Miami Dolphins offense apparently. 1 Quote
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