Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 minute ago, SCBills said: I don’t think it will… seems redder this go around and the reason it went blue for Biden and gave us two Dem Senators is because of the man you mention above. Eventually, one way or another, he’ll be out of the picture. That said.. if it does, Georgia “blue” isn’t the same as NY “blue”. Dems compete in Georgia mainly through black folks, a growing Indian population and then trying to win Hispanics and the battleground Atlanta suburbs. They’ve made gains in the Atlanta suburbs due to Trump, but those Atlanta suburbs overwhelmingly support Republicans like Brian Kemp. Also.. black/hispanic voters in Georgia aren’t exactly progressive. They are heavy church going types and aren’t obsessed with abortion and lgbtq issues. Even the Democrat Mayor of Atlanta ran on stopping crime and came out against certain elements of the Biden/Harris border strategy. Weve had a few flare ups since the riots of 2020 and they’ve been heavy handedly shut down. ok. but if during balkanization, it or Atlanta were blue, would you leave for redder pastures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Just now, Joe Ferguson forever said: ok. but if during balkanization, it or Atlanta were blue, would you leave for redder pastures? Im in Buckhead. As it stands, I’d stay here. They literally threatened to secede from Atlanta due to crime spilling up from Midtown and Kemp/Dem ATL Mayor gave us our own police force to prevent that from happening. Fwiw… as it stands, I’d probably be ok staying on Long Island (where I moved from). It’s almost all red, outside a blue city. Would I live in NYC? Nah. Long Island, maybe. Atlanta (Midtown)? Probably not. Buckhead, yea. That said.. I also have a place in South Carolina, and if Georgia ever became progressive blue, I’d probably spend more time there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Im in Buckhead. As it stands, I’d stay here. They literally threatened to secede from Atlanta due to crime spilling up from Midtown and Kemp/Dem ATL Mayor gave us our own police force to prevent that from happening. Fwiw… as it stands, I’d probably be ok staying on Long Island (where I moved from). It’s almost all red, outside a blue city. Would I live in NYC? Nah. Long Island, maybe. Atlanta (Midtown)? Probably not. Buckhead, yea. That said.. I also have a place in South Carolina, and if Georgia ever became progressive blue, I’d probably spend more time there. Buckhead is Atlanta. I recall test driving a boxster there. "Buckhead is the uptown commercial and residential district of the city of Atlanta, Georgia, comprising approximately the northernmost fifth of the city." Wikipedia \ LI is red. It elected Santos. Edited October 24 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 I don't even see it as blue vs. red. I see a conflict or disagreement between people that are comfortable with and support the centralization of power and control in Washington and people that want power and control over specific activities to reside at the State and local level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Buckhead is Atlanta. I recall test driving a boxster there. "Buckhead is the uptown commercial and residential district of the city of Atlanta, Georgia, comprising approximately the northernmost fifth of the city." Wikipedia It is, but it’s also 5-10 minutes from Midtown. And nowhere near any of the rougher parts of urban Atlanta. It’s like saying Staten Island is NYC. It is.. its also nothing like the other boroughs. I can go for run on the Path Greenway and see Trump signs in front of houses in the residential areas. When Kemp ran, Kemp signs were all over Buckhead. Edited October 24 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 21 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: It’s a dumb premise to say the big red empty spaces are more important than the small blue dots. The red spaces don’t believe in equality (one person one vote) they think they have right to control things because they have land and never have to interact with anyone else or more likely they just never listen to anyone else. Meanwhile those “small” blue dots generate most of the revenue and economic activity in the country. but yea your comment, as usual, added quite a bit to the discussion, thanks. What? You didn't even get to vote for a candidate? Wtf are you rambling on about? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I don't even see it as blue vs. red. I see a conflict or disagreement between people that are comfortable with and support the centralization of power and control in Washington and people that want power and control over specific activities to reside at the State and local level. And I see it as a group of people that will accept and sometimes applaud shameful, immoral behavior (and will remain that way after he's gone) and policies and one that won't. As far as state vs federal, trump is throwing the states the abortion issue which is politically smart but he's promised to be a strongman leader in Washington and I believe him. 14 minutes ago, Irv said: did he do an ad for polident? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Starr-Bills Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 2 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: What? You didn't even get to vote for a candidate? Wtf are you rambling on about? I said none of what you are asking. It’s not a hard concept. red areas are generally rural, and have a low population density. Additionally they usually have large land owners who both think they should be in charge of everything because they own land and are used to telling people what to do. So they don’t want to count votes from the people the boss around (or worse year from those blue “dots’. This is an aristocrat streak in red states that is being used by authoritarians. Think the OG civil war where rich plantation owners convinced poor white to fight and die so the rich could keep blacks slaves and maintain the poor whites place just above those slaves. So poll results at this point 80% no. I think no for several reasons, Russian and foreign influence is all in for this election if the felon doesn’t get in it will collapse and so will the artificial divisions. additionally people can’t handle putting a mask on their are not going to go into the streets and fight, let alone risk not having access to TP. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: I said none of what you are asking. It’s not a hard concept. red areas are generally rural, and have a low population density. Additionally they usually have large land owners who both think they should be in charge of everything because they own land and are used to telling people what to do. So they don’t want to count votes from the people the boss around (or worse year from those blue “dots’. This is an aristocrat streak in red states that is being used by authoritarians. Think the OG civil war where rich plantation owners convinced poor white to fight and die so the rich could keep blacks slaves and maintain the poor whites place just above those slaves. ???? Ramble on bro. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: I said none of what you are asking. It’s not a hard concept. red areas are generally rural, and have a low population density. Additionally they usually have large land owners who both think they should be in charge of everything because they own land and are used to telling people what to do. So they don’t want to count votes from the people the boss around (or worse year from those blue “dots’. This is an aristocrat streak in red states that is being used by authoritarians. Think the OG civil war where rich plantation owners convinced poor white to fight and die so the rich could keep blacks slaves and maintain the poor whites place just above those slaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Maybe civil unrest, but not a war. 10 minutes ago, Irv said: They're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 14 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Maybe civil unrest, but not a war. They're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 You all have been bad girls and need a spanking from daddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said: ???? Ramble on bro. Stick with the I can’t read words it’s working for you. 🥴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 24 minutes ago, Starr-Bills said: Stick with the I can’t read words it’s working for you. 🥴 I'm sorry your incoherent rambling is hard to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Of course not. Worst that could happen is something like The Troubles in which case we can put down the right wing rabble rousers pretty easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commsvet11 Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 The original civil war had a government first and then an army, as others mentioned clearly defined North and South. Many military bases are in southern states and western states an actual civil war like the one back in the 1860’s probably isn’t feasible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 1 hour ago, Roundybout said: Of course not. Worst that could happen is something like The Troubles in which case we can put down the right wing rabble rousers pretty easily. With what rocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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