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4 minutes ago, SCBills said:


Zero people have ever corroborated a John Kelly claim.   
 

Plenty of people in the room have gone on record saying they were there and never heard it.  
 

Even people like Mark Esper have said they were there and never heard any of these things said.  
 

The literal family of the dead soldier supports Trump and refutes what was said.  
 

But, sure, it’s possible everyone else can’t hear and John Kelly somehow is the only one that hears Trump say wildly inflammatory things. 
 

And I guess it’s possible he only remembers they were said right before elections. 

 

I guess it's impossible for a conversation to be between 2 people.

 

Or for people that did hear to pretend they didn't, or to lie and say they didn't.

 

Who has the bigger history of lying?  I understand nobody else heard it.  That factors in to whether you believe the accusation.  Fair.  Is Kelly a known liar?

Is Trump?  Is that something Trump would be likely to say, perhaps even in jest?

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Sojourner said:


Maybe you’re asking a rhetorical question? 
 

There is no age under consent that is acceptable.


Neither is accusing someone of being a “pedo” on the basis of not answering a silly question relating to an unconfirmed, potentially incorrect piece of tabloid attached to their political affiliation.

 

Come on man, be better. 

What is the age of consent in Louisiana?

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1 minute ago, Sojourner said:


Maybe you’re asking a rhetorical question? 
 

There is no age under consent that is acceptable.


Neither is accusing someone of being a “pedo” on the basis of not answering a silly question relating to an unconfirmed, potentially incorrect piece of tabloid attached to their political affiliation.

 

Come on man, be better. 

 

Be better.  Yes, I think that's what we want.  Maybe we can agree that a guy found liable for rape, who bragged about watching underage girls dress during pageants, who literally said I walk up to women and grab them by their pu$$y perhaps doesn't have the temperament to hold the highest office in the country?

 

He also happens to be provably unintelligent.  Someone who has scammed maybe tens of thousands of lower income people out of their money.

 

Yes.  Let's be better.  

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1 minute ago, Sojourner said:


Maybe you’re asking a rhetorical question? 
 

There is no age under consent that is acceptable.


Neither is accusing someone of being a “pedo” on the basis of not answering a silly question relating to an unconfirmed, potentially incorrect piece of tabloid attached to their political affiliation.

 

Come on man, be better. 


The issue right now is we just have conjecture. The tape may release it may not.


But we set a standard for this thread in the thread about the anonymous source for the debate being rigged.

 

The MAGA people jumped on that being real. Here we argue we have a higher level of evidence of this being real than that. So if they are taking the anonymous source the debate was rigged as real, than surely this with a real source must be real.

 

Since the evidence here is greater, we can assume they also think this is true.

 

So the logical question comes since this is real based on this boards MAGA level of evidence, what age would they stop supporting Trump.

 

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5 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

I guess it's impossible for a conversation to be between 2 people.

 

Or for people that did hear to pretend they didn't, or to lie and say they didn't.

 

Who has the bigger history of lying?  I understand nobody else heard it.  That factors in to whether you believe the accusation.  Fair.  Is Kelly a known liar?

Is Trump?  Is that something Trump would be likely to say, perhaps even in jest?

 

 


So John Kelly was just Trump’s go to in a crowd for bonkers statements that could always be used against him?

 

And Kelly didn’t think to tell us of these claims back when he hit us with the uncorroborated “suckers and losers” … he decided to wait four years, until right before the election, for a “but wait.. there’s more!”

 

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1 minute ago, SCBills said:


So John Kelly was just Trump’s go to for bonkers statements that could always be used against him?

 

And Kelly didn’t think to tell us of these claims back when he hit us with the uncorroborated “suckers and losers” … he decided to wait four years, until right before the election, for a “but wait.. there’s more!”

What motivates him?  He’s taking a massive risk. If trump wins he can sic his goons on him. 

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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:


So John Kelly was just Trump’s go to in a crowd for bonkers statements that could always be used against him?

 

And Kelly didn’t think to tell us of these claims back when he hit us with the uncorroborated “suckers and losers” … he decided to wait four years, until right before the election, for a “but wait.. there’s more!”

 

 

Does kelly have a history of lying!?

 

The answer is NO, I've never heard an accusation of him being dishonest.  If you have heard anything of the sort, feel free to share.  We're never going to know the truth unless someone else steps up - that isn't going to happen.  Has Trump said absurd things before?  We can agree on that at least I assume?  

 

You will side with Trump no matter what.  

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4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

What is the age of consent in Louisiana?

 

3 minutes ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Be better.  Yes, I think that's what we want.  Maybe we can agree that a guy found liable for rape, who bragged about watching underage girls dress during pageants, who literally said I walk up to women and grab them by their pu$$y perhaps doesn't have the temperament to hold the highest office in the country?

 

He also happens to be provably unintelligent.  Someone who has scammed maybe tens of thousands of lower income people out of their money.

 

Yes.  Let's be better.  

 

2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:


The issue right now is we just have conjecture. The tape may release it may not.


But we set a standard for this thread in the thread about the anonymous source for the debate being rigged.

 

The MAGA people jumped on that being real. Here we argue we have a higher level of evidence of this being real than that. So if they are taking the anonymous source the debate was rigged as real, than surely this with a real source must be real.

 

Since the evidence here is greater, we can assume they also think this is true.

 

So the logical question comes since this is real based on this boards MAGA level of evidence, what age would they stop supporting Trump.

 


Look at you, focusing on BS rhetoric and questioning rather than the outlandish statement that someone is a “pedo”. 
 

SMH. 

 

Don’t get why there is so much animosity Democrats have to Republicans and vice versa.
 

If this point of tabloid/gossip was truly worth your opinion, you wouldn’t be on a forum having back and forths. 

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2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

What motivates him?  He’s taking a massive risk. If trump wins he can sic his goons on him. 

He's probably had all sorts of threats.

 

Anyone that speaks negatively against the orange fupa gets threats from the crazies.

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1 minute ago, Sojourner said:

 

 


Look at you, focusing on BS rhetoric and questioning rather than the outlandish statement that someone is a “pedo”. 
 

SMH. 

 

Don’t get why there is so much animosity Democrats have to Republicans and vice versa.
 

If this point of tabloid/gossip was truly worth your opinion, you wouldn’t be on a forum having back and forths. 

 

Giving up on being better quick eh?

 

Figures.

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1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Does kelly have a history of lying!?

 

The answer is NO, I've never heard an accusation of him being dishonest.  If you have heard anything of the sort, feel free to share.  We're never going to know the truth unless someone else steps up - that isn't going to happen.  Has Trump said absurd things before?  We can agree on that at least I assume?  

 

You will side with Trump no matter what.  


I’m not “siding with Trump”

 

Im siding with my reality of not being easily propagandized by anonymously sourced stories and folks who say things that can’t be corroborated.  
 

Kelly has people who don’t even like Trump coming out and defending him on this.  
 

I also think he should pick a new journalist to speak with, because Goldberg has a history of this.. and a history of promising corroboration that never comes.  
 

As a result, this particular Atlantic story has zero sway on my opinion.  And it shouldn’t sway anyone else’s either .. alas, confirmation bias is a hell of a thing.  
 

In regards to this alleged bombshell.  The fact people are saying there’s video makes it a complete miss for me.  If there was video, a NYT/WaPo/CNN etc would be in a bidding war for the story. 
 

As we stand, no one will touch it.  And it’s now being shopped to folks like Mark Halperin.. who’s plugged in, sure.. but not exactly the A-list of outlets. 

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15 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

What is the age of consent in Louisiana?

Asking for yourself? And no, I have never set foot  in La.

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1 minute ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

 

Giving up on being better quick eh?

 

Figures.


Giving up? Lol 

 

No man, you’re advocating it’s acceptable to label someone who has no involvement in a scandal as pedo because of political party siding. 
 

Neither party cares about you or anyone else, keep banging the drum and aiming your aggression towards the people who are on the same river you’re sailing down, just in a different boat. 
 

Again, if your view was truly worth any salt which it appears you believe, you’d be outside Trump tower or down at Palm Beach vocalizing it directly to the culprit who’s being accused. 

2 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

Keep reading ppp threads. We are nothing alike. 


You aren’t that dissimilar. 
 

Believe that illusion. 

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1 minute ago, Sojourner said:

You aren’t that dissimilar. 
 

Believe that illusion. 

We all put our pants on one leg at a time. Our shite all stinks. Otherwise we have almost nothing in common with the established MAGAs here. Your ideology is yet to be determined. But you’re starting badly. 

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12 jurors unanimously believed e Jean Carroll after being presented the evidence from both sides. 

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