Cooper or Hopkins?

[Success]

Do we have to do this every time someone has a good game?

 

This was all the rage about Worthy after his 1st game.  Now that we're halfway through the season, I am SO glad we did what we did on draft day.  Not that Worthy isn't a good speedster, but he's very one-dimensional, easy to tackle, and seems to lack good instincts on the field.  No way would I take him over Coleman.

 

[TFBillsfan]

Cooper but Hopkins will be schemed much better in KC.  Reid does an excellent job scheming players open. 

[The Jokeman]

3 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said:

Cooper but Hopkins will be schemed much better in KC.  Reid does an excellent job scheming players open. 

I just want to know what scheme he running to make Jawaan Taylor not get flagged for false starts. 

[YattaOkasan]

5 hours ago, Returntoglory said:

Obviously, Hopkins is the better of the two.

 I wanted him several years ago. Amazing hands.

Several years ago is a long time and I agree incredible hands (demonstrated last night with that big play).  BUT 2020 was the last time Hopkins had a better year (2021 success rate was a smidge higher for Hop).  Im not sure how its obvious when Cooper had more yards on less targets last year (really every stat including catch %).  I get Tenn had not good QB play but its not like Cle has had great QB play either (also a tougher division).  

[DaVinci]

Hopkins with Mahomes or Cooper with Allen ?

[LABILLBACKER]

22 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

I mean he looked pretty good in his first game got dinged up in the second... And he didn't play yesterday 

 

So we got one game of amari and he got dinged up.. I don't think you could judge it from that let's see what he looks like in 5 weeks

Exactly...he had 1 good half during his first 3 games on the roster. Game 2 goose-egg. Game 3 injured. Meanwhile Dhop is off to the races with 2 tds & 86 yards. And I guarantee you Andy will scheme him up much more successfully than Joe will with Amari.  

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Exactly...he had 1 good half during his first 3 games on the roster. Game 2 goose-egg. Game 3 injured. Meanwhile Dhop is off to the races with 2 tds & 86 yards. And I guarantee you Andy will scheme him up much more successfully than Joe will with Amari.  

Hopkins played last week with them and and 29 yards...

 

So one good game and one game with nothing 

 

The same as Cooper

 

 

[YattaOkasan]

7 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

. And I guarantee you Andy will scheme him up much more successfully than Joe will with Amari.  

This is not a case against cooper being better unless you think Reid would scheme up less for cooper

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

15 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

I just want to know what scheme he running to make Jawaan Taylor not get flagged for false starts. 

 

I'd say dawkins and brown occaisionally cut it pretty close.  

16 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:

Cooper but Hopkins will be schemed much better in KC.  Reid does an excellent job scheming players open. 

 

I thought hopkins/mahomes best connection should've been picked off.  Floated it directly into the safeties zone and he waited for it instead of going and getting it.  

[The Jokeman]

58 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I'd say dawkins and brown occaisionally cut it pretty close.  

 

I thought hopkins/mahomes best connection should've been picked off.  Floated it directly into the safeties zone and he waited for it instead of going and getting it.  

Close yes but Taylor is seemingly most obvious to anyone who watches any Chiefs game, even commentators have stated as such. 

[Freddie's Dead]

On 10/23/2024 at 6:43 PM, WotAGuy said:

Have we all just friggin given up on Shorter??  You guys suck. 

 

Who?  Is he even here any more?

[Chicken Boo]

Although I think Hopkins is better, I believe that both teams got the WR that fits their offenses.

[Einstein]

21 hours ago, Success said:

Do we have to do this every time someone has a good game?

 

This was all the rage about Worthy after his 1st game.  Now that we're halfway through the season, I am SO glad we did what we did on draft day.  Not that Worthy isn't a good speedster, but he's very one-dimensional, easy to tackle, and seems to lack good instincts on the field.  No way would I take him over Coleman.

 

 

There is a legitimate argument that Hopkins was the better choice from the beginning (sans one good game). Cooper has never been better than Hopkins throughout their career. And Cooper led the league in drops so far this year. 

 

Im happy to have Cooper, but objectively speaking, I would swap with KC if given the chance.

[Success]

2 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

There is a legitimate argument that Hopkins was the better choice from the beginning (sans one good game). Cooper has never been better than Hopkins throughout their career. And Cooper led the league in drops so far this year. 

 

Im happy to have Cooper, but objectively speaking, I would swap with KC if given the chance.

 

Hopkins was DEFINITELY better in his prime.

 

He's just not in his prime anymore.

 

[Einstein]

2 minutes ago, Success said:

 

Hopkins was DEFINITELY better in his prime.

 

He's just not in his prime anymore.

 

 

Yeah but neither is Cooper.

[DCofNC]

Both are washed or you wouldn’t be getting them for peanuts.

[Warriorspikes51]

5 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Both are washed or you wouldn’t be getting them for peanuts.

that’s not how the trade deadline works for bad teams with good veteran players - depending on position, supply, demand

 

Neither player is washed. 

[Drew21PA]

We are better with coop and they are going to be electric with D Hop

 

Dhop just needed a legit qb - has one now!

 

coop is definitely what we needed as well

[DCofNC]

13 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

that’s not how the trade deadline works for bad teams with good veteran players - depending on position, supply, demand

 

Neither player is washed. 

They are both washed.  Not completely, but they are shells of their past.  Neither one will be making huge contributions to their new teams for any extended period of time.  These are just guys on the back end of their careers, Hop probably lasts longer bc he never predicated his game on speed and he has amazing hands.   Cooper has a history of drops and a lot of his success came from speed, albeit smooth speed.  Both got moved because they are at the end of their contracts and not part of their team’s future plans.  Like it or leave it, you don’t get any quality, young talent, for picks that low. 

9 minutes ago, Drew21PA said:

We are better with coop and they are going to be electric with D Hop

 

Dhop just needed a legit qb - has one now!

 

coop is definitely what we needed as well

Yeah, Coop is what we needed, cheap.  Hop still has juice, I hate that he went to KC. 

[Warriorspikes51]

1 minute ago, DCofNC said:

They are both washed.  Not completely, but they are shells of their past.  Neither one will be making huge contributions to their new teams for any extended period of time.  These are just guys on the back end of their careers, Hop probably lasts longer bc he never predicated his game on speed and he has amazing hands.   Cooper has a history of drops and a lot of his success came from speed, albeit smooth speed.  Both got moved because they are at the end of their contracts and not part of their team’s future plans.  Like it or leave it, you don’t get any quality, young talent, for picks that low. 

Yeah, Coop is what we needed, cheap.  Hop still has juice, I hate that he went to KC. 

Cooper just put up 265 receiving on Christmas Eve last year.  If he gets the targets, he can take over games.