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Posted
30 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


1) Name one

2) Why do you automatically assume that women and minorities are worse at their jobs than white men?

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8 minutes ago, Roundybout said:


1) Name one

2) Why do you automatically assume that women and minorities are worse at their jobs than white men?

Second question first.

Typical false premise leading to false conclusion, leading to false accusation.

Tibsy path.

I don't "automatically assume that women and minorities are worse at their jobs than white men."

That is from you. What I assert is that in the professions I have mentioned, standards have been lowered to accommodate various individuals.

Simply undeniable.

Now to names. As is my habit, I don't post stuff unless I am knowledgeable of the issue.

Two Naval Aviators died, and two airplanes crashed at sea because of this.

One name, because it is so well known.

Kara Hultgreen.

Once Congress changed the law and allowed females to fly combat airplanes at sea, the Navy and Air Force were in a race to get the PR win by being the first service to find one.

She was it. She was assigned to an F-14 squadron and had an approach turn stall while attempting to land on Lincoln.

Her training records and personal witness accounts indicated beyond doubt that if her performance prior to that was as a man, she would never have made it that far. She was not competent to be in that position.

Thankfully, her back seater, who commanded the very low altitude ejection survived. Neither she nor the F-14 did.

Second, and very personal.聽

There were no single seat pilots in the Navy of a certain race.

My squadron had a guy assigned to us. An extremely great guy who became a good friend in our brief time together.

The problem was, he couldn't land on the ship, which is the unique and most difficult thing in all of aviation.

During workups, which are two week sea periods prior to deployment to get up to speed, he was having difficulty and had not been scheduled at night, which is much more challenging.

The decision was made to get hi two day flights, then if that went well, he would be scheduled the next night.

If that didn't work out, it was going to be the end of his carrier career.

I was his flight lead on the first day mission that day, a perfect day to fly off the boat.

On his second flight, he had an approach turn stall, (same as above), and ejected inverted at about 200' killing him at impact with the water, just behind Kitty Hawk.

During the accident investigation, it was revealed that there was flag after flag during his training that should have disqualified him, but he was pushed along for a reason.

It turns out he had expressed to friends in other squadrons that he was terrified of flying the airplane off a carrier.

There are other issues in this accident that even more telling, but were never formally revealed.

The Navy would never admit to the training stuff, so they placed some blame on my squadron commanding officer stating that he should have known about this "fear," though it was never expressed to us.

Great guy. Great family that I met as one of six officers in my squadron that served as pall bearers at his funereal in Baton Rouge.

Anyway, that capped the CO's career.

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