T.E. Posted October 22 Posted October 22 36 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Teams miss on picks...that's just how it goes. I'm not sure why so many on here act like the Bills are the only team that ever has picks not pan out... I mean look at the Chiefs...as good as they are they drafted CEH and Skyy Moore in the 1st and 2nd rounds and have gotten not a lot from them. It's not so much that they missed, but that he was only picked because they felt the need to draft ANOTHER defensive lineman despite taking one a round earlier, taking one with their first pick the year before, and taking one with a top-10 pick the year before that. They drafted Allen in 2018 and then did not use their first pick on offense again until 2023. Who does that with a high-end QB? 1 1 1 1 1 Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 22 Posted October 22 30 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Teams miss on picks...that's just how it goes. I'm not sure why so many on here act like the Bills are the only team that ever has picks not pan out... I mean look at the Chiefs...as good as they are they drafted CEH and Skyy Moore in the 1st and 2nd rounds and have gotten not a lot from them. Even if we just wanna limit talk to recent edge rushers, I mean it’s still early but karlaftis/anudike-uzomah were both first rounders and I’d still take Rousseau/basham over that despite basham being straight up worthless lol karlaftis is pretty good and Rousseau is very good but maybe not quite great 1 Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted October 22 Posted October 22 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: What a terrible "Cody Ford" type of pick. Oh well we still must keep drafting pass rushers until we find that diamond. Von won't be around forever and Groot/AJE are hardly elite. He’s a long shot but i have high hopes for Solomon. 1 Quote
Dick_Cheney Posted October 22 Posted October 22 14 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It might be best to bring him back to Buffalo, put him on a strict beef on weck, wings and PBR diet to get him at 330 lbs and be our next Nose Tackle. Actually lol'd at this. Quote
Roundybout Posted October 22 Posted October 22 21 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: We got greedy defensively and went to the well 3x in two drafts. We already burned an early pick on AJE in 2020, then drafted Groot in the 1st round. Was it really necessary to waste another high pick on a 3rd DE?? We easily could've had Nico Collins or Aman-Ra St. Brown with Boogies pick. You're right, McD can't get out of his own way. And he'll never emphasize the offense. ????? 1 Quote
Billznut Posted October 22 Posted October 22 11 minutes ago, T.E. said: It's not so much that they missed, but that he was only picked because they felt the need to draft ANOTHER defensive lineman despite taking one a round earlier, taking one with their first pick the year before, and taking one with a top-10 pick the year before that. They drafted Allen in 2018 and then did not use their first pick on offense again until 2023. Who does that with a high-end QB? Green Bay did it to Rodgers for over a decade. I’m glad we finally stopped that madness. But offensive first round picks will still be the exception rather than the rule around here with McD. Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) He had an interception, why dont I remember that? Sigh, here comes all the should drafted this guy instead posts. 16 minutes ago, T.E. said: It's not so much that they missed, but that he was only picked because they felt the need to draft ANOTHER defensive lineman despite taking one a round earlier, taking one with their first pick the year before, and taking one with a top-10 pick the year before that. They drafted Allen in 2018 and then did not use their first pick on offense again until 2023. Who does that with a high-end QB? How was Diggs acquired again? Edited October 22 by Matt_In_NH Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 22 Posted October 22 25 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: It might be best to bring him back to Buffalo, put him on a strict beef on weck, wings and PBR diet to get him at 330 lbs and be our next Nose Tackle. this needs a Rocky-like montage with it too. 1 Quote
Beast Posted October 22 Posted October 22 I gotta boogie on my finger and I can’t get it off. I gotta boogie on my finger and I can’t get it off. Quote
Rigotz Posted October 22 Posted October 22 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: What a terrible "Cody Ford" type of pick. Oh well we still must keep drafting pass rushers until we find that diamond. Von won't be around forever and Groot/AJE are hardly elite. Did... you see Groot last Sunday? 1 Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 22 Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Beast said: I gotta boogie on my finger and I can’t get it off. I gotta boogie on my finger and I can’t get it off. Aaron Rodgers will eat it 1 Quote
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 22 Posted October 22 2 hours ago, T master said: Thank GOD at least one fan here gets it thank you, thank you, thank you !!! After all the good that Beane has done for this team and it's future yet every body is so freakin critical when a pick doesn't work out but doesn't look at other teams to compare before spewing such nonsense !! Thanks again !!! Not just a pick. He’s missed on multiple second round picks and the jury is still out on Bishop… 2 Quote
JohnNord Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, Snappysnackcakes said: Boogie turned out to be a horrendous draft pick. But in his draft class, he seemed to be a relatively safe pick. He was thought of as someone who could step right in with a high floor. But man, did he suck. The best thing Beane did was cut their losses. Still drafting high DE’s who couldn’t give the defense the pass rush they needed had collateral damage. It forced the Bills to roll the dice and overspend with Von Miller which ultimately hasn’t worked out. Edited October 22 by JohnNord 1 Quote
vincec Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) 3 hours ago, T.E. said: At least with Ford, we needed an offensive lineman and he was viewed by many as a 1st rounder. We took Basham right after selecting Rousseau. What a colossally dumb pick that had McDermott's hands all over it. Actually, I thought McDermott seemed unenthusiastic at the time, IMO. They posted the video of the draft room when Boogie was picked and McD looked kind of stunned for a couple of seconds, then said “hey, you can never have too many pass rushers” or similar. It wasn’t “wohoo, we got our guy” like with Rousseau. It was more “ok, I guess.” Edited October 22 by vincec Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted October 22 Posted October 22 1 hour ago, Rigotz said: Did... you see Groot last Sunday? I don't get as excited about qb hits or pressures as some fans. I've watched qbs like Mahomes complete td passes under pressure. But I have yet to see a sacked qb complete a pass. We're 7 games in and Groot has 3.5 sacks. He's just too inconsistent. 2 5 Quote
finn Posted October 22 Posted October 22 23 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Boogie turned out to be a horrendous draft pick. But in his draft class, he seemed to be a relatively safe pick. He was thought of as someone who could step right in with a high floor. But man, did he suck. The best thing Beane did was cut their losses. Still drafting high DE’s who couldn’t give the defense the pass rush they needed had collateral damage. It forced the Bills to roll the dice and overspend with Von Miller which ultimately hasn’t worked out. Funny, I don't remember him as playing badly. In fact, he made some plays as I recall. He wasn't spectacular, but neither was (or is) Epenesa. I was surprised when he was cut. But since he's done nothing since, I must have missed his ineptitude somehow. Quote
Mark Vader Posted October 22 Posted October 22 4 hours ago, MJS said: Definately a head scratching pick by Beane at the time. There were a good amount of fans here wanting the Bills to draft Basham, so I don't think it was that big of a head scratcher. Quote
Mike in Horseheads Posted October 22 Posted October 22 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I don't get as excited about qb hits or pressures as some fans. I've watched qbs like Mahomes complete td passes under pressure. But I have yet to see a sacked qb complete a pass. We're 7 games in and Groot has 3.5 sacks. He's just too inconsistent. Wasn't that from the first game? Quote
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