US Egg Posted October 22 Posted October 22 29 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said: 2020 was pretty good too. Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Love, Hurts. You do that on purpose? 2 Quote
MJS Posted October 22 Posted October 22 1 hour ago, ganesh said: Is that because he has ZERO INTs? They aren't very forthcoming in what all goes into QBR, but it accounts for rushing production as well as passing production. Quote
BigDingus Posted October 22 Posted October 22 6 hours ago, Sojourner said: With Baker and Darnold turning their careers around that could go down as the third best draft for QBs. ‘83 is #1, obviously. Kelly/Marino/Elway ’04 is #2. Big Ben/Eli/Rivers Might even edge out ‘04. I'd say 2018 is still way behind '04. 2 of the 3 from '04 won multiple Super Bowls. The 2018 class needs a champion before it can get in that conversation, and hopefully it's our guy! 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted October 22 Posted October 22 Ray Davis is hogging the ball and Coleman is to slow It's killing Josh Allen's stats 1 Quote
SoTier Posted October 22 Posted October 22 6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Darnold & Mayfield's current success will be short lived. 3 years or less from now they'll be backups again. You may be right about Darnold but Mayfield has always been at least a decent starter. He was Rookie of the Year in 2018, and he played pretty well in Cleveland, including 2021 when he played hurt most of the season. The Browns kicked him to the curb in order to get Watson. He spent part of 2022 in Carolina and the rest with the Rams (replacing Stafford who was injured). In Tampa, he's shown again that he's a really good QB. 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted October 22 Posted October 22 6 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Darnold & Mayfield's current success will be short lived. 3 years or less from now they'll be backups again. I don't know, a lot of talent there. 3 Quote
JP51 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 (edited) 14 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Where is “Chosen Rosen” ranked? You mean what some thought was "the right Josh" lol.... I remember hearing and with the 7th overall pick in the 2018 draft the Buffalo Bills select Josh.... and the world stopped for that micro second as I prayed please dont say Rosen please dont say Rosen..... Allen... and a big exhale... Edited October 22 by JP51 Quote
msw2112 Posted October 22 Posted October 22 17 hours ago, Sojourner said: With Baker and Darnold turning their careers around that could go down as the third best draft for QBs. ‘83 is #1, obviously. Kelly/Marino/Elway ’04 is #2. Big Ben/Eli/Rivers Might even edge out ‘04. Mayfield, Darnold, Geno Smith.... Maybe there's still some hope for EJ Manuel. Quote
Big Turk Posted October 22 Posted October 22 17 hours ago, dave mcbride said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2024/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating QBs drafted in the first round in 2018 are currently 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th in QB rating this season. Pretty remarkable. keyword is "currently". Doubt that continues thru the end of the season. DC's get smarter with more gametape Quote
NI Bills Fan Posted October 22 Posted October 22 2 hours ago, JP51 said: You mean what some thought was "the right Josh" lol.... I remember hearing and with the 7th overall pick in the 2018 draft the Buffalo Bills select Josh.... and the world stopped for that micro second as I prayed please dont say Rosen please dont say Rosen..... Allen... and a big exhale... Whereas a lot of fans had the exact opposite experience to you in those few seconds. 1 Quote
JP51 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 7 hours ago, NI Bills Fan said: Whereas a lot of fans had the exact opposite experience to you in those few seconds. Indeed and the truth is none of us reeeeeally knew... lol 1 Quote
Saxum Posted October 23 Posted October 23 On 10/21/2024 at 7:35 PM, dave mcbride said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2024/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating QBs drafted in the first round in 2018 are currently 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th in QB rating this season. Pretty remarkable. They are rated that high because "Wrong" Josh is the sinkhole. The good news he has 7 jerseys to hang on his wall. Quote
JaCrispy Posted October 23 Posted October 23 On 10/21/2024 at 7:38 PM, Sojourner said: With Baker and Darnold turning their careers around that could go down as the third best draft for QBs. ‘83 is #1, obviously. Kelly/Marino/Elway ’04 is #2. Big Ben/Eli/Rivers Might even edge out ‘04. We would need at least 3 HOFers from the 2018 class…So far, only Josh and Lamar are on pace… 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted October 23 Posted October 23 19 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: We would need at least 3 HOFers from the 2018 class…So far, only Josh and Lamar are on pace… Spot on. That edge out is hopeful for Josh lol there will be the stats and accolades between Lamar & Josh, not sure about the rings. Those other classes have it all. Quote
Dan Darragh Posted October 23 Posted October 23 (edited) On 10/22/2024 at 4:07 AM, HansLanda said: He is - no joke - enrolled at Wharton Biz School. He may actually have the last laugh financially lol. You're kidding, right? In his whole career Rosen won't make a fraction of what a first-tier QB makes in a single season. Edited October 23 by Dan Darragh Quote
BillsfaninChicago Posted October 23 Posted October 23 Man there are a whole bunch of mistakes ahead of Josh Rosen… Quote
warrior9 Posted October 23 Posted October 23 On 10/21/2024 at 6:35 PM, dave mcbride said: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2024/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating QBs drafted in the first round in 2018 are currently 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 7th in QB rating this season. Pretty remarkable. If I'm reading this correctly, it's 1,4,5,7. Burrow was following year and Lamar was 2018. Quote
Sojourner Posted October 23 Posted October 23 9 minutes ago, BillsfaninChicago said: Man there are a whole bunch of mistakes ahead of Josh Rosen… Thank goodness Andrew Luck didn’t hang it up the year prior otherwise I don’t think we get Josh, either Josh lol 1 Quote
BillsfaninChicago Posted October 23 Posted October 23 3 minutes ago, Sojourner said: Thank goodness Andrew Luck didn’t hang it up the year prior otherwise I don’t think we get Josh, either Josh lol Oh yeah no doubt about it. We also got super lucky the Broncos didn’t go QB at 5 that year since they were also in the market. I had heard the Browns were thinking about taking Allen 1st overall. Man imagine how different history would have been if one of those events had happened? Quote
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