the Daboll/Schoen regime - on the brink, it seems

[DrDawkinstein]

Looks like the infamous Schoen quote is making the rounds again after another Barkley performance...

 

 

Dead Man Walking.

[Man with No Name]

23 hours ago, frostbitmic said:

When hired the Giants thought Daboll could develop Jones like he did Allen. Looks more like Allen made Daboll more than the other way around.

Anybody with two brain cells to rub together knew that was the case the whole time. if you know football, you know josh allen is a unicorn. 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

1 minute ago, Man with No Name said:

Anybody with two brain cells to rub together knew that was the case the whole time. if you know football, you know josh allen is a unicorn. 

Sometimes you just ace the interview.

[DrDawkinstein]

22 minutes ago, Man with No Name said:

Anybody with two brain cells to rub together knew that was the case the whole time. if you know football, you know josh allen is a unicorn. 

 

You need both.

 

A talented QB AND a competent coach. There are plenty of examples of talented QBs being ruined by bad coaching, and plenty of examples of competent coaching getting canned due to bad QB play.

 

Daboll has proven numerous times he can win when he has a good QB. Not everyone can.

 

And let's not even think about what might have been had we been stuck with Rick Dennison at OC for multiple seasons after 2017.

 

Schoen/Daboll's big mistake was sticking with Jones after they made the playoffs their first year. Should have continued the plan to blow it all up and make it their own, like McBeane did in Buffalo in 2018.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

Sometimes you just ace the interview.

Must have happened with Mara.

Now, if you're interviewing with the other  NYC football team, it helps that that owner is Rube Goldfish.

 

[RoyBatty is alive]

On 10/22/2024 at 10:44 AM, thenorthremembers said:

 

Honestly they shouldnt have signed either.     Barkley is playing well now because teams cant load the box against him.  With the Giants he was averaging under 4 yards a carry and missed an average of 4 games a year.   The Giants were not the type of team to be in a position to spend 12.5 million dollars a year on a running back, especially a 27-year-old running back with an injury history.    That said, the Jones contract doomed them.   

 

What they should have done was not signed either of them and used the 52 million they would have saved to bring in Kirk Cousins, Baker Mayfield, or Sam Darnold and looked to draft a younger quarterback as soon as possible.   

A bit of revisionist history here.  Yes of course they should have signed Baker, Darnold of Cousins, all of them having spectacular years, especially Darnold.

[TheFunPolice]

Eagles fans chanting "Thank you Giants!" last night for letting Barkley get there probably didn't help the NJ regime any...

 

 

[thenorthremembers]

Daboll is a prime example of why someone like Ben Johnson is being selective about where he will work.  I think Daboll is an excellent coach who players like to play for.   Had he went to an organization where he got to help choose his QB he would have been much better off.   Now he is a career .398 coach who will be looking for his next job soon.

[BADOLBILZ]

6 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

Daboll is a prime example of why someone like Ben Johnson is being selective about where he will work.  I think Daboll is an excellent coach who players like to play for.   Had he went to an organization where he got to help choose his QB he would have been much better off.   Now he is a career .398 coach who will be looking for his next job soon.

 

Sentence 1 :  Wrong

Sentence 2:   Way wrong

Sentence 3:   No reason to believe that

Sentence 4:   Sounds right

[fergie's ire]

The irony is that they come from an organization that took a risk by getting rid of the quarterback who got them into the playoffs...a guy who was good but not good enough.  With the Giants they didn't have the courage to jettison Danny Dimes because he helped them have some success.